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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:04 PM Original message |
The Secret They Don't Want You to Know- Bakken Oil Sands (Enron related) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. DRAAAAAIIIINAGE! nt |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Because they flow very slowly, sands must be extracted by strip mining an area size of New England: |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Using vast quantities of natural gas extracted from ANWR. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. And in the meantime Congress subsidizes these asswipe companies |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. With our money, while they get in while the stock is cheap. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. No kidding. The crazies have taken over the planet. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Not the crazies, the GREEDIES. Our congress and senate included. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Not exactly good news but I'm thinkin' its about time for another plague or something. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
76. they call it 'energy independence' -- but where is their allegiance? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. . |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. It takes more energy to get the oil from the Bakken formations than it will yield. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Who said anything about paranoid? I'm FURIOUS. |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I've read dozens of articles and geophysical studies about it. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yes, CLR- my typo, and no I don't think you're a "bad guy." |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Actually I was pointing out that readers SHOULD do their own research |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. I call BS. It is producing right now. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. 'xactly... |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
72. Sure. And when will it get to the break-even point? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thanks BHN! Bookmarking and pulling out what's left of my fucking hair! |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Enron, the gift that keeps giving... |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Guess who the big holders are" |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Did you click on the link? |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Vanguard manages 401K plans for millions of ordinary working people. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I prefer to manage my OWN money. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. So you manage your OWN money |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Why do you ask? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It's a simple question. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Why would I be afraid to answer? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I'm curious because I was |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Yes I clicked the link. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Oh they've invested in more that ONE Bakken company- |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. What does the total come to and |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Do you expect me to look all of it up on the SEC filings or what? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Yes I expect you to check the |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Nah thanks...I research what I need to know for my investments- |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Best of luck. n/t |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Thanks- so far so good. |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Isn't Biden on the board |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. Info on oil sands, also known as tar sands or bituminous sands |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. The article is gone |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. OMG. You are not kidding. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Here, I found it on another web site! |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. TOO funny! The source they wiped was from HOUSTON. The Chronicle. Enron Country |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Um....no. It's still there. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The one in my original post is gone- go see for yourself. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I did. It's missing the '.html' part. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You are so thoughtful. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well it's an interesting article. I was surprised at the idea they would remove it. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. The Enron Factor is why they would remove it. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. (scratches head) but they didn't remove it, as you can see. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Yes, now we all know that- it is still there, we thought it wasn't and wouldn't |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. HA! Horizontal drilling...that's akin to breaking into a neighbor's |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You're thinking of "slant" drilling |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. "Easy Bakken Oven!!!" ROTFLMAO!!!! A DU classic is born! |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Glad you like it BHN, But I feel kinda bad |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Yes, they are very busy in Colombia too. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Well,thats true. But I'm not exactly an investor class person |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. If you're a member of the Texas-American Petroleum Mafia, what's not to like? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. You nailed it nicely. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Thank you!! And as we can see, the Texas-American Petroleum's investment in |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Thank you for the clarification. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. I Drink Your Milkshake |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. No, it's not even similar. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I call BS. First you purchase the mineral rights!!! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. I call BS. It is in the news fequently here in North Dakota. Google it. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. There was an article in Indian Country News about a deal- |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I can't help feeling 'Average Joe' spends more time on the sports than the business news. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. You're callin' BS a lot. Tell me. When you call |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. I'm sure it is in ND news, but certainly not national. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
63. Nice scam. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Sorry, but it is not hyped up. It is very real. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. EOG, the Enron boys under another name, is trading around $130 today... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
66. some other sites to peruse |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
68. Their first well produced 269 barrels per day? That's IT?!?!?! |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. There is enough oil to last a long time- However, what the oil companies need |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. That is exactly what is happening. It's not supply and demand, it's plunder and pillage. |
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