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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:34 PM
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CNN Spins the Vietnam War and Contrasts it with Iraq...Says No One was in the Streets
to protest Iraq. It's a roundtable discussion with Campbell Brown leading the panel of Doug Brinkley, David gergen and Jeffrey Toobin with an interview shown of Chuck Hagel who also said "unlike Vietnam there haven't been people "in the streets."

As if Campbell Brown hadn't got enough of each panel member (those listed above) saying "no one is or was in the streets" over Iraq she then said once again in summary...."well I haven't seen anyone in the streets over this have you?"

Last week a DU'er posted pictures of the Millions of Americans and those all over Europe who protested Before the War Even begun and during and there are vigils now in towns and cities all over America.

I know that there are DU'ers who went to LA, San Francisco, DC, Boston, Raleigh, NC and in many other cities everywhere who have marched with signs who have phoned, faxed their congresscritters and there are Web Sites all over who are trying to stop this war.

CNN who helped spin us into this war and every day spreads a new bit of "Pentagon or AIPAQ propaganda to us is now rewriting the history of Iraq. The Panels Conclusion was that the "60's were an Altruistic Era where protests were going on over Womens Rights, Civil Rights and Vietnam. Vietnam was protested because there was a draft. If there was a draft now we would "see people in the streets."

They are flat out lying. And, the DU poster gave CNN E-Mail for folks here to send them the post and pictures of the millions. I guess CNN doesn't even pay attention to the FACTS..when folks try to inform them.

I will never believe Jeff Toobin, David Gergen or Chuck Hagel...(I have considered all three "fair" in the past) because they LIED about "no one in the streets" protesting this war because there isn't a draft. If they'd boldface lie about that...what else are they lying about as they "pretend to be so reasonable."

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:38 PM
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1. I hope Obama has the chance to talk about the protests
That ought to get some coverage for the truth.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:43 PM
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2. The bright side is that lies like CNN is still doing...have created a new movement..
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 04:44 PM by KoKo01
and those of us who know the truth have worked to "bypass" the McCorporate Media. Still...it's very disappointing to see this panel with three people I sometimes respected repeat a meme that they KNOW is a LIE. That at least allows me to personally know not to trust them...no matter how they "appear" to cozy up to Democrats. We shouldn't trust ANY of their political analysis...since they work for very dark forces who are trying to divide Democrats.

We can't let them succeed in dividing us...because when they spew lies like this...we know that they will lie about everything else.

Anyone thinking Obama should put Chuck Hagel on a Dem Ticket should understand what he's "really" about.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:54 PM
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7. CNN doesn't make it easy to find a way to send her a note
I'm still hunting for a page to send her my thoughts.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:45 PM
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3. CNN & those idiotic pundits really believe that the American
Public is truly stupid.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:47 PM
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4. Mrs. Dan Senor?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:49 PM
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5. only 36,000,000 people in one 3 month span
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

Contents


* 1 Prior to the invasion of Iraq
o 1.1 September 12, 2002
o 1.2 October 26, 2002
o 1.3 October 31, 2002
o 1.4 November 9, 2002
o 1.5 January 16, 2003
o 1.6 January 18, 2003
o 1.7 February 15, 2003
o 1.8 March 8, 2003
o 1.9 March 15, 2003
o 1.10 March 16, 2003
o 1.11 March 19, 2003
* 2 Invasion to the fall of Baghdad
o 2.1 March 20, 2003
o 2.2 March 21, 2003
o 2.3 March 22–23, 2003
o 2.4 March 24, 2003
o 2.5 March 25, 2003
o 2.6 March 27, 2003
o 2.7 March 28, 2003
o 2.8 March 29, 2003
o 2.9 March 30, 2003
o 2.10 April 7, 2003
* 3 After the fall of Baghdad
o 3.1 April 12, 2003
o 3.2 October 25, 2003
o 3.3 June 4, 2004
o 3.4 June 5, 2004
o 3.5 June 27, 2004
o 3.6 August 29, 2004
o 3.7 October 2, 2004
o 3.8 October 17, 2004
o 3.9 November 30, 2004
o 3.10 January 20, 2005
o 3.11 March 19, 2005
o 3.12 June 21, 2005
o 3.13 August 6, 2005 to August 31, 2005
o 3.14 September 24, 2005
o 3.15 November 4–5, 2005
o 3.16 March 18 – March 20, 2006
o 3.17 April 1, 2006
o 3.18 April 29, 2006
o 3.19 May 22–31, 2006
o 3.20 August 9, 2006
o 3.21 September 21, 2006
o 3.22 September 23, 2006
o 3.23 October 5, 2006
o 3.24 November 3, 2006
o 3.25 January 4, 2007
o 3.26 January 10–11, 2007
o 3.27 January 27, 2007
o 3.28 March 11, 2007
o 3.29 March 16, 2007
o 3.30 March 17, 2007
o 3.31 May 21, 2007–
o 3.32 September 15, 2007
o 3.33 September 29, 2007
o 3.34 March 19, 2008
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:49 PM
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6. According to a friend, who is a Nam vet, there is a big difference - the draft.
I think that is part of it...but there are other elements - the media has forgotten the war (little to no coverage), and people have gone much more deeply into their bubbles of comfort - be it watching mindless TV, etc. We've grown much more apathetic in general, aided by a lazy press corps and a right wing media machine. But my buddy's comment on this being an all volunteer army does bring quite a distinction.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:58 PM
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8. The point was that they said there was "no one in the streets" protesting Iraq.
Maybe you weren't involved politically on the net at that time... But, there were MILLIONS all Over American in the Streets--before, during and even last year--- and there are still vigils here in NC..and other cities. They LIED BIG TIME. They refused to cover the protests because the Largest Ones were sponsered by A.N.S.W.E.R. and United for Peace and Justice. "The Dirty Hippies" you know. They seem to only respect "college students burning up campuses" (as David Gergen so succinctly stated). :-(
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:01 PM
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10. Point is well taken. And I realize that there was lots of activity "on the streets" re the Iraq war
And I realize that they were lying their asses off in that show today. Was just bringing up a discussion I had with my friend recently. Thanks for our OP. Important stuff.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 04:59 PM
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9. BTW...Howard Dean's Candidacy came out of our Iraq War Protests and so did Obama's...
The lying McCorporate media knows that, too!
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:01 PM
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11. Yup. It is why we've turned off the TV!!!! NT
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:53 AM
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39. LAZY PRESS CORPS MY ASS
The news was right at their front goddamn door.. See protests post down thread..

lazy... couldn't look out the goddamn window lazy?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:04 PM
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12. I guess I wasn't in San Francisco on February 16, 2003


This did not happen?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:29 PM
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16. Thank you for that PHOTO! I wish we could get a rolling post of ALL the Protests
and Hand Deliver it to those Lying POS's! But...then...I realize...that even "evidence" doesn't convince them. Even when THEY KNOW...they STILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE....
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:09 PM
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13. they're terrified...they know they're caught like rats
bush is the red-headed stepchild of mediaslut dirty secrets- and bush is gonna be here for several more months, committing atrocities/plotting schemes that would make ted bundy blanch, and the pigmedia CREATED HIM OUTTA NOTHING!
(the busheviks were forced to set ablaze john ellis (jeb) bush's old home, the tex gov mansion, to cover the destruction of masses of documents, deathly info about the 2k coup etc; watch for alot more little 'incidents' like this, which cnn will hurriedly explain as lightning strikes and 'dancing bears knocking over keroscene lamps' etc...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:31 PM
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19. It's the "line up of deck chairs" before Repug "Titanic" sinks? Is that what you think?
or the "Last Gasp before Nixon Republicanism breathes it's last breath?" :eyes: We can only hope..
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:39 PM
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33. nixon republicanism should have been kicked to the kerb
30 years ago. Imagine the money humanity, not just USA, would have saved! The only reason there no colonies on the moon and Mars etc, along with unimaginable other things such as electric tranport truck fleets all over the world, plus tunnels under the Atlantic ocean so we ride robotic cars to China, etc, with stopovers to visit Titanic at its gravesite...but NOOOOOO! All the old men scratched their asses hohumming angrily at dirty hippie union men and tree huggers, disregarding the history unfolded right in front of them while the fake repukes ripped off USA, forcing USA to ripoff rest of the world, and getting us what? Now noone trust the government; never will again...even with a President Obama
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:12 AM
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42. A-and Smell-o-vision!
When will they give in to the Persons' demand for Smell-o-vision?!?


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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:13 PM
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14. CNN should check with the FBI and the CIA and local police forces ...
I'm sure that they have plenty of footage of the people "in the streets" ... with PLENTY of close-ups of faces for easy identification ...
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:29 PM
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15. PRE WAR WORLDWIDE PROTESTS
The largest number of people in the history of recorded civilization gathered together world wide to protest this war before it happened!

It was all blacked out in American MSM.

No protests, my ass!

Thanks again, MSM!

-90% Jimmy
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:26 PM
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17. No one was in New York's streets?
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 06:28 PM by aquart
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:32 PM
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20. More Pix...thank you...I know there's a huge cache on DU and eleswhere..we were FIRED UP!
Thanks!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:35 PM
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22. And that crowd went on for 20 Blocks
From Midtown Manhattan to Union Square.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:41 AM
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34. To Washington Square.
We terminated at Washington Square Park from 42nd Street.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:30 PM
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18. Was this the RFK/1968 Show? I was about to post this! Will there BE antiwar march at conventions?
My impression was that it would be HUGE, especially Minneapolis, but
with Obama winning fair & square I am not sure the public is angry enough
about the war to continue marching. :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:33 PM
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21. I don't think our Dem Party wants any Demonstrations...but it would be GREAT to SEIGE the REPUGS!
:D After all...they are the ones who are most culpable with their Neo-Con Alliance!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:37 PM
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24. The thinking was if there was a fight at either convention between pro-war and antiwar, it'd be 1968
Think Ron Paul or Hillary challenging the nomination.

One of the groups even has a website called "Recreate 68".
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:39 PM
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25. Plus, picking Minneapolis for the RNC is like picking Seattle for a trade meeting
I suppose the RNC could have met in San Francisco... :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:01 PM
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29. Well...Hillary is out of that...so maybe Ron Paul's Supporters can stage demonstrations
that CNN refuses to cover... :eyes:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:36 PM
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23. I beg to differ
I think you are over-reacting. To say that there was no one in the streets is incorrect, true. But the massive protests were before the war started, not in recent years. The point they were trying to make and I think it's an obvious and correct one is to focus on the difference the absence of the draft makes. There are anti-war protests now, for sure, but they bear no comparison to what happened during the Vietnam war. That's all they were trying to say I think.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:50 PM
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27. There really have been massive protests in "recent years" and they were by the folks who lived with
Vietnam...former vets and those who "beat the draft number" but were angered about the Iraq Invasion. It was a Generation with many Young People as well as Older Vietnam Era Folks.

Please don't let CNN make up your mind for you on this...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:06 PM
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30. A site that talks about some issues about this topic, "Americans Against Bombing."
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 07:07 PM by KoKo01
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:20 PM
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32. Thanks for the link
I'll have a look later.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:46 PM
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26. they're covering their ass because of McClellan's book
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:54 PM
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28. Good Point ...and that they've never reported on Pentagon Pushing "Propaganda Generals" onCables
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 07:08 PM by KoKo01
and Networks to Push the Bush/Cheney Message.

Maybe they are thinking they might be "on list" for "War Crimes" and their latest "Pentagon Marching Orders" is to OBFUSCATE/PSYOPS the whole Iraq Invasion and Occupation and to bastardize their reporting that Iraq Invasion is somehow related to Vietnam..when that was a TOTALLY DIFFERENT "War." When is "Liberation for Democracy" a War with Intended Occupation? And, doesn't our Constitution specifically address these "Dreams of Empire?"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:14 PM
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31. NYT: " Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon's Hidden Hand"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?ex=1366344000&en=196b27df83cc255c&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

April 20, 2008
Message Machine
Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand
By DAVID BARSTOW

Corrections Appended

In the summer of 2005, the Bush administration confronted a fresh wave of criticism over Guantánamo Bay. The detention center had just been branded “the gulag of our times” by Amnesty International, there were new allegations of abuse from United Nations human rights experts and calls were mounting for its closure.

The administration’s communications experts responded swiftly. Early one Friday morning, they put a group of retired military officers on one of the jets normally used by Vice President Dick Cheney and flew them to Cuba for a carefully orchestrated tour of Guantánamo.

To the public, these men are members of a familiar fraternity, presented tens of thousands of times on television and radio as “military analysts” whose long service has equipped them to give authoritative and unfettered judgments about the most pressing issues of the post-Sept. 11 world.

Hidden behind that appearance of objectivity, though, is a Pentagon information apparatus that has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found.

The effort, which began with the buildup to the Iraq war and continues to this day, has sought to exploit ideological and military allegiances, and also a powerful financial dynamic: Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air.

Those business relationships are hardly ever disclosed to the viewers, and sometimes not even to the networks themselves. But collectively, the men on the plane and several dozen other military analysts represent more than 150 military contractors either as lobbyists, senior executives, board members or consultants. The companies include defense heavyweights, but also scores of smaller companies, all part of a vast assemblage of contractors scrambling for hundreds of billions in military business generated by the administration’s war on terror. It is a furious competition, one in which inside information and easy access to senior officials are highly prized.

Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse — an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks.

Analysts have been wooed in hundreds of private briefings with senior military leaders, including officials with significant influence over contracting and budget matters, records show. They have been taken on tours of Iraq and given access to classified intelligence. They have been briefed by officials from the White House, State Department and Justice Department, including Mr. Cheney, Alberto R. Gonzales and Stephen J. Hadley.

In turn, members of this group have echoed administration talking points, sometimes even when they suspected the information was false or inflated. Some analysts acknowledge they suppressed doubts because they feared jeopardizing their access.

A few expressed regret for participating in what they regarded as an effort to dupe the American public with propaganda dressed as independent military analysis.

“It was them saying, ‘We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you,’ ” Robert S. Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst, said.

Kenneth Allard, a former NBC military analyst who has taught information warfare at the National Defense University, said the campaign amounted to a sophisticated information operation. “This was a coherent, active policy,” he said.

As conditions in Iraq deteriorated, Mr. Allard recalled, he saw a yawning gap between what analysts were told in private briefings and what subsequent inquiries and books later revealed.

“Night and day,” Mr. Allard said, “I felt we’d been hosed.”

The Pentagon defended its relationship with military analysts, saying they had been given only factual information about the war. “The intent and purpose of this is nothing other than an earnest attempt to inform the American people,” Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said.

It was, Mr. Whitman added, “a bit incredible” to think retired military officers could be “wound up” and turned into “puppets of the Defense Department.”

Many analysts strongly denied that they had either been co-opted or had allowed outside business interests to affect their on-air comments, and some have used their platforms to criticize the conduct of the war. Several, like Jeffrey D. McCausland, a CBS military analyst and defense industry lobbyist, said they kept their networks informed of their outside work and recused themselves from coverage that touched on business interests.

“I’m not here representing the administration,” Dr. McCausland said.

Some network officials, meanwhile, acknowledged only a limited understanding of their analysts’ interactions with the administration. They said that while they were sensitive to potential conflicts of interest, they did not hold their analysts to the same ethical standards as their news employees regarding outside financial interests. The onus is on their analysts to disclose conflicts, they said. And whatever the contributions of military analysts, they also noted the many network journalists who have covered the war for years in all its complexity.

Five years into the Iraq war, most details of the architecture and execution of the Pentagon’s campaign have never been disclosed. But The Times successfully sued the Defense Department to gain access to 8,000 pages of e-mail messages, transcripts and records describing years of private briefings, trips to Iraq and Guantánamo and an extensive Pentagon talking points operation.

These records reveal a symbiotic relationship where the usual dividing lines between government and journalism have been obliterated.

Internal Pentagon documents repeatedly refer to the military analysts as “message force multipliers” or “surrogates” who could be counted on to deliver administration “themes and messages” to millions of Americans “in the form of their own opinions.”

Though many analysts are paid network consultants, making $500 to $1,000 per appearance, in Pentagon meetings they sometimes spoke as if they were operating behind enemy lines, interviews and transcripts show. Some offered the Pentagon tips on how to outmaneuver the networks, or as one analyst put it to Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, “the Chris Matthewses and the Wolf Blitzers of the world.” Some warned of planned stories or sent the Pentagon copies of their correspondence with network news executives. Many — although certainly not all — faithfully echoed talking points intended to counter critics.

“Good work,” Thomas G. McInerney, a retired Air Force general, consultant and Fox News analyst, wrote to the Pentagon after receiving fresh talking points in late 2006. “We will use it.”

Again and again, records show, the administration has enlisted analysts as a rapid reaction force to rebut what it viewed as critical news coverage, some of it by the networks’ own Pentagon correspondents. For example, when news articles revealed that troops in Iraq were dying because of inadequate body armor, a senior Pentagon official wrote to his colleagues: “I think our analysts — properly armed — can push back in that arena.”

The documents released by the Pentagon do not show any quid pro quo between commentary and contracts. But some analysts said they had used the special access as a marketing and networking opportunity or as a window into future business possibilities.

John C. Garrett is a retired Marine colonel and unpaid analyst for Fox News TV and radio. He is also a lobbyist at Patton Boggs who helps firms win Pentagon contracts, including in Iraq. In promotional materials, he states that as a military analyst he “is privy to weekly access and briefings with the secretary of defense, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and other high level policy makers in the administration.” One client told investors that Mr. Garrett’s special access and decades of experience helped him “to know in advance — and in detail — how best to meet the needs” of the Defense Department and other agencies.

In interviews Mr. Garrett said there was an inevitable overlap between his dual roles. He said he had gotten “information you just otherwise would not get,” from the briefings and three Pentagon-sponsored trips to Iraq. He also acknowledged using this access and information to identify opportunities for clients. “You can’t help but look for that,” he said, adding, “If you know a capability that would fill a niche or need, you try to fill it. “That’s good for everybody.”

At the same time, in e-mail messages to the Pentagon, Mr. Garrett displayed an eagerness to be supportive with his television and radio commentary. “Please let me know if you have any specific points you want covered or that you would prefer to downplay,” he wrote in January 2007, before President Bush went on TV to describe the surge strategy in Iraq.

Conversely, the administration has demonstrated that there is a price for sustained criticism, many analysts said. “You’ll lose all access,” Dr. McCausland said.

With a majority of Americans calling the war a mistake despite all administration attempts to sway public opinion, the Pentagon has focused in the last couple of years on cultivating in particular military analysts frequently seen and heard in conservative news outlets, records and interviews show.

Some of these analysts were on the mission to Cuba on June 24, 2005 — the first of six such Guantánamo trips — which was designed to mobilize analysts against the growing perception of Guantánamo as an international symbol of inhumane treatment. On the flight to Cuba, for much of the day at Guantánamo and on the flight home that night, Pentagon officials briefed the 10 or so analysts on their key messages — how much had been spent improving the facility, the abuse endured by guards, the extensive rights afforded detainees.

The results came quickly. The analysts went on TV and radio, decrying Amnesty International, criticizing calls to close the facility and asserting that all detainees were treated humanely.

“The impressions that you’re getting from the media and from the various pronouncements being made by people who have not been here in my opinion are totally false,” Donald W. Shepperd, a retired Air Force general, reported live on CNN by phone from Guantánamo that same afternoon.

The next morning, Montgomery Meigs, a retired Army general and NBC analyst, appeared on “Today.” “There’s been over $100 million of new construction,” he reported. “The place is very professionally run.”

Within days, transcripts of the analysts’ appearances were circulated to senior White House and Pentagon officials, cited as evidence of progress in the battle for hearts and minds at home.

Charting the Campaign

By early 2002, detailed planning for a possible Iraq invasion was under way, yet an obstacle loomed. Many Americans, polls showed, were uneasy about invading a country with no clear connection to the Sept. 11 attacks. Pentagon and White House officials believed the military analysts could play a crucial role in helping overcome this resistance.

Torie Clarke, the former public relations executive who oversaw the Pentagon’s dealings with the analysts as assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, had come to her job with distinct ideas about achieving what she called “information dominance.” In a spin-saturated news culture, she argued, opinion is swayed most by voices perceived as authoritative and utterly independent.

And so even before Sept. 11, she built a system within the Pentagon to recruit “key influentials” — movers and shakers from all walks who with the proper ministrations might be counted on to generate support for Mr. Rumsfeld’s priorities.

In the months after Sept. 11, as every network rushed to retain its own all-star squad of retired military officers, Ms. Clarke and her staff sensed a new opportunity. To Ms. Clarke’s team, the military analysts were the ultimate “key influential” — authoritative, most of them decorated war heroes, all reaching mass audiences.

The analysts, they noticed, often got more airtime than network reporters, and they were not merely explaining the capabilities of Apache helicopters. They were framing how viewers ought to interpret events. What is more, while the analysts were in the news media, they were not of the news media. They were military men, many of them ideologically in sync with the administration’s neoconservative brain trust, many of them important players in a military industry anticipating large budget increases to pay for an Iraq war.

Even analysts with no defense industry ties, and no fondness for the administration, were reluctant to be critical of military leaders, many of whom were friends. “It is very hard for me to criticize the United States Army,” said William L. Nash, a retired Army general and ABC analyst. “It is my life.”

Other administrations had made sporadic, small-scale attempts to build relationships with the occasional military analyst. But these were trifling compared with what Ms. Clarke’s team had in mind. Don Meyer, an aide to Ms. Clarke, said a strategic decision was made in 2002 to make the analysts the main focus of the public relations push to construct a case for war. Journalists were secondary. “We didn’t want to rely on them to be our primary vehicle to get information out,” Mr. Meyer said.

The Pentagon’s regular press office would be kept separate from the military analysts. The analysts would instead be catered to by a small group of political appointees, with the point person being Brent T. Krueger, another senior aide to Ms. Clarke. The decision recalled other administration tactics that subverted traditional journalism. Federal agencies, for example, have paid columnists to write favorably about the administration. They have distributed to local TV stations hundreds of fake news segments with fawning accounts of administration accomplishments. The Pentagon itself has made covert payments to Iraqi newspapers to publish coalition propaganda.

Rather than complain about the “media filter,” each of these techniques simply converted the filter into an amplifier. This time, Mr. Krueger said, the military analysts would in effect be “writing the op-ed” for the war.

Assembling the Team

From the start, interviews show, the White House took a keen interest in which analysts had been identified by the Pentagon, requesting lists of potential recruits, and suggesting names. Ms. Clarke’s team wrote summaries describing their backgrounds, business affiliations and where they stood on the war.

“Rumsfeld ultimately cleared off on all invitees,” said Mr. Krueger, who left the Pentagon in 2004. (Through a spokesman, Mr. Rumsfeld declined to comment for this article.)

Over time, the Pentagon recruited more than 75 retired officers, although some participated only briefly or sporadically. The largest contingent was affiliated with Fox News, followed by NBC and CNN, the other networks with 24-hour cable outlets. But analysts from CBS and ABC were included, too. Some recruits, though not on any network payroll, were influential in other ways — either because they were sought out by radio hosts, or because they often published op-ed articles or were quoted in magazines, Web sites and newspapers. At least nine of them have written op-ed articles for The Times.

The group was heavily represented by men involved in the business of helping companies win military contracts. Several held senior positions with contractors that gave them direct responsibility for winning new Pentagon business. James Marks, a retired Army general and analyst for CNN from 2004 to 2007, pursued military and intelligence contracts as a senior executive with McNeil Technologies. Still others held board positions with military firms that gave them responsibility for government business. General McInerney, the Fox analyst, for example, sits on the boards of several military contractors, including Nortel Government Solutions, a supplier of communication networks.

Several were defense industry lobbyists, such as Dr. McCausland, who works at Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney, a major lobbying firm where he is director of a national security team that represents several military contractors. “We offer clients access to key decision makers,” Dr. McCausland’s team promised on the firm’s Web site.

Dr. McCausland was not the only analyst making this pledge. Another was Joseph W. Ralston, a retired Air Force general. Soon after signing on with CBS, General Ralston was named vice chairman of the Cohen Group, a consulting firm headed by a former defense secretary, William Cohen, himself now a “world affairs” analyst for CNN. “The Cohen Group knows that getting to ‘yes’ in the aerospace and defense market — whether in the United States or abroad — requires that companies have a thorough, up-to-date understanding of the thinking of government decision makers,” the company tells prospective clients on its Web site.

There were also ideological ties.

Two of NBC’s most prominent analysts, Barry R. McCaffrey and the late Wayne A. Downing, were on the advisory board of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, an advocacy group created with White House encouragement in 2002 to help make the case for ousting Saddam Hussein. Both men also had their own consulting firms and sat on the boards of major military contractors.

Many also shared with Mr. Bush’s national security team a belief that pessimistic war coverage broke the nation’s will to win in Vietnam, and there was a mutual resolve not to let that happen with this war.

This was a major theme, for example, with Paul E. Vallely, a Fox News analyst from 2001 to 2007. A retired Army general who had specialized in psychological warfare, Mr. Vallely co-authored a paper in 1980 that accused American news organizations of failing to defend the nation from “enemy” propaganda during Vietnam.

“We lost the war — not because we were outfought, but because we were out Psyoped,” he wrote. He urged a radically new approach to psychological operations in future wars — taking aim at not just foreign adversaries but domestic audiences, too. He called his approach “MindWar” — using network TV and radio to “strengthen our national will to victory.”

The Selling of the War

From their earliest sessions with the military analysts, Mr. Rumsfeld and his aides spoke as if they were all part of the same team.

In interviews, participants described a powerfully seductive environment — the uniformed escorts to Mr. Rumsfeld’s private conference room, the best government china laid out, the embossed name cards, the blizzard of PowerPoints, the solicitations of advice and counsel, the appeals to duty and country, the warm thank you notes from the secretary himself.

“Oh, you have no idea,” Mr. Allard said, describing the effect. “You’re back. They listen to you. They listen to what you say on TV.” It was, he said, “psyops on steroids” — a nuanced exercise in influence through flattery and proximity. “It’s not like it’s, ‘We’ll pay you $500 to get our story out,’ ” he said. “It’s more subtle.”

The access came with a condition. Participants were instructed not to quote their briefers directly or otherwise describe their contacts with the Pentagon.

In the fall and winter leading up to the invasion, the Pentagon armed its analysts with talking points portraying Iraq as an urgent threat. The basic case became a familiar mantra: Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons, was developing nuclear weapons, and might one day slip some to Al Qaeda; an invasion would be a relatively quick and inexpensive “war of liberation.”

At the Pentagon, members of Ms. Clarke’s staff marveled at the way the analysts seamlessly incorporated material from talking points and briefings as if it was their own.

“You could see that they were messaging,” Mr. Krueger said. “You could see they were taking verbatim what the secretary was saying or what the technical specialists were saying. And they were saying it over and over and over.” Some days, he added, “We were able to click on every single station and every one of our folks were up there delivering our message. You’d look at them and say, ‘This is working.’ ”

On April 12, 2003, with major combat almost over, Mr. Rumsfeld drafted a memorandum to Ms. Clarke. “Let’s think about having some of the folks who did such a good job as talking heads in after this thing is over,” he wrote.

By summer, though, the first signs of the insurgency had emerged. Reports from journalists based in Baghdad were increasingly suffused with the imagery of mayhem.

The Pentagon did not have to search far for a counterweight.

It was time, an internal Pentagon strategy memorandum urged, to “re-energize surrogates and message-force multipliers,” starting with the military analysts.

The memorandum led to a proposal to take analysts on a tour of Iraq in September 2003, timed to help overcome the sticker shock from Mr. Bush’s request for $87 billion in emergency war financing.

The group included four analysts from Fox News, one each from CNN and ABC, and several research-group luminaries whose opinion articles appear regularly in the nation’s op-ed pages.

The trip invitation promised a look at “the real situation on the ground in Iraq.”

The situation, as described in scores of books, was deteriorating. L. Paul Bremer III, then the American viceroy in Iraq, wrote in his memoir, “My Year in Iraq,” that he had privately warned the White House that the United States had “about half the number of soldiers we needed here.”

“We’re up against a growing and sophisticated threat,” Mr. Bremer recalled telling the president during a private White House dinner.

That dinner took place on Sept. 24, while the analysts were touring Iraq.

Yet these harsh realities were elided, or flatly contradicted, during the official presentations for the analysts, records show. The itinerary, scripted to the minute, featured brief visits to a model school, a few refurbished government buildings, a center for women’s rights, a mass grave and even the gardens of Babylon.

Mostly the analysts attended briefings. These sessions, records show, spooled out an alternative narrative, depicting an Iraq bursting with political and economic energy, its security forces blossoming. On the crucial question of troop levels, the briefings echoed the White House line: No reinforcements were needed. The “growing and sophisticated threat” described by Mr. Bremer was instead depicted as degraded, isolated and on the run.

“We’re winning,” a briefing document proclaimed.

One trip participant, General Nash of ABC, said some briefings were so clearly “artificial” that he joked to another group member that they were on “the George Romney memorial trip to Iraq,” a reference to Mr. Romney’s infamous claim that American officials had “brainwashed” him into supporting the Vietnam War during a tour there in 1965, while he was governor of Michigan.

But if the trip pounded the message of progress, it also represented a business opportunity: direct access to the most senior civilian and military leaders in Iraq and Kuwait, including many with a say in how the president’s $87 billion would be spent. It also was a chance to gather inside information about the most pressing needs confronting the American mission: the acute shortages of “up-armored” Humvees; the billions to be spent building military bases; the urgent need for interpreters; and the ambitious plans to train Iraq’s security forces.

Information and access of this nature had undeniable value for trip participants like William V. Cowan and Carlton A. Sherwood.

Mr. Cowan, a Fox analyst and retired Marine colonel, was the chief executive of a new military firm, the wvc3 Group. Mr. Sherwood was its executive vice president. At the time, the company was seeking contracts worth tens of millions to supply body armor and counterintelligence services in Iraq. In addition, wvc3 Group had a written agreement to use its influence and connections to help tribal leaders in Al Anbar Province win reconstruction contracts from the coalition.

“Those sheiks wanted access to the C.P.A.,” Mr. Cowan recalled in an interview, referring to the Coalition Provisional Authority.

Mr. Cowan said he pleaded their cause during the trip. “I tried to push hard with some of Bremer’s people to engage these people of Al Anbar,” he said.

Back in Washington, Pentagon officials kept a nervous eye on how the trip translated on the airwaves. Uncomfortable facts had bubbled up during the trip. One briefer, for example, mentioned that the Army was resorting to packing inadequately armored Humvees with sandbags and Kevlar blankets. Descriptions of the Iraqi security forces were withering. “They can’t shoot, but then again, they don’t,” one officer told them, according to one participant’s notes.

“I saw immediately in 2003 that things were going south,” General Vallely, one of the Fox analysts on the trip, recalled in an interview with The Times.

The Pentagon, though, need not have worried.

“You can’t believe the progress,” General Vallely told Alan Colmes of Fox News upon his return. He predicted the insurgency would be “down to a few numbers” within months.

“We could not be more excited, more pleased,” Mr. Cowan told Greta Van Susteren of Fox News. There was barely a word about armor shortages or corrupt Iraqi security forces. And on the key strategic question of the moment — whether to send more troops — the analysts were unanimous.

“I am so much against adding more troops,” General Shepperd said on CNN.

Access and Influence

Inside the Pentagon and at the White House, the trip was viewed as a masterpiece in the management of perceptions, not least because it gave fuel to complaints that “mainstream” journalists were ignoring the good news in Iraq.

“We’re hitting a home run on this trip,” a senior Pentagon official wrote in an e-mail message to Richard B. Myers and Peter Pace, then chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Its success only intensified the Pentagon’s campaign. The pace of briefings accelerated. More trips were organized. Eventually the effort involved officials from Washington to Baghdad to Kabul to Guantánamo and back to Tampa, Fla., the headquarters of United States Central Command.

The scale reflected strong support from the top. When officials in Iraq were slow to organize another trip for analysts, a Pentagon official fired off an e-mail message warning that the trips “have the highest levels of visibility” at the White House and urging them to get moving before Lawrence Di Rita, one of Mr. Rumsfeld’s closest aides, “picks up the phone and starts calling the 4-stars.”

Mr. Di Rita, no longer at the Defense Department, said in an interview that a “conscious decision” was made to rely on the military analysts to counteract “the increasingly negative view of the war” coming from journalists in Iraq. The analysts, he said, generally had “a more supportive view” of the administration and the war, and the combination of their TV platforms and military cachet made them ideal for rebutting critical coverage of issues like troop morale, treatment of detainees, inadequate equipment or poorly trained Iraqi security forces. “On those issues, they were more likely to be seen as credible spokesmen,” he said.

For analysts with military industry ties, the attention brought access to a widening circle of influential officials beyond the contacts they had accumulated over the course of their careers.

Charles T. Nash, a Fox military analyst and retired Navy captain, is a consultant who helps small companies break into the military market. Suddenly, he had entree to a host of senior military leaders, many of whom he had never met. It was, he said, like being embedded with the Pentagon leadership. “You start to recognize what’s most important to them,” he said, adding, “There’s nothing like seeing stuff firsthand.”

Some Pentagon officials said they were well aware that some analysts viewed their special access as a business advantage. “Of course we realized that,” Mr. Krueger said. “We weren’t naïve about that.”

They also understood the financial relationship between the networks and their analysts. Many analysts were being paid by the “hit,” the number of times they appeared on TV. The more an analyst could boast of fresh inside information from high-level Pentagon “sources,” the more hits he could expect. The more hits, the greater his potential influence in the military marketplace, where several analysts prominently advertised their network roles.

“They have taken lobbying and the search for contracts to a far higher level,” Mr. Krueger said. “This has been highly honed.”

Mr. Di Rita, though, said it never occurred to him that analysts might use their access to curry favor. Nor, he said, did the Pentagon try to exploit this dynamic. “That’s not something that ever crossed my mind,” he said. In any event, he argued, the analysts and the networks were the ones responsible for any ethical complications. “We assume they know where the lines are,” he said.

The analysts met personally with Mr. Rumsfeld at least 18 times, records show, but that was just the beginning. They had dozens more sessions with the most senior members of his brain trust and access to officials responsible for managing the billions being spent in Iraq. Other groups of “key influentials” had meetings, but not nearly as often as the analysts.

An internal memorandum in 2005 helped explain why. The memorandum, written by a Pentagon official who had accompanied analysts to Iraq, said that based on her observations during the trip, the analysts “are having a greater impact” on network coverage of the military. “They have now become the go-to guys not only on breaking stories, but they influence the views on issues,” she wrote.

Other branches of the administration also began to make use of the analysts. Mr. Gonzales, then the attorney general, met with them soon after news leaked that the government was wiretapping terrorism suspects in the United States without warrants, Pentagon records show. When David H. Petraeus was appointed the commanding general in Iraq in January 2007, one of his early acts was to meet with the analysts.

“We knew we had extraordinary access,” said Timur J. Eads, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and Fox analyst who is vice president of government relations for Blackbird Technologies, a fast-growing military contractor.

Like several other analysts, Mr. Eads said he had at times held his tongue on television for fear that “some four-star could call up and say, ‘Kill that contract.’ ” For example, he believed Pentagon officials misled the analysts about the progress of Iraq’s security forces. “I know a snow job when I see one,” he said. He did not share this on TV.

“Human nature,” he explained, though he noted other instances when he was critical.

Some analysts said that even before the war started, they privately had questions about the justification for the invasion, but were careful not to express them on air.

Mr. Bevelacqua, then a Fox analyst, was among those invited to a briefing in early 2003 about Iraq’s purported stockpiles of illicit weapons. He recalled asking the briefer whether the United States had “smoking gun” proof.

“ ‘We don’t have any hard evidence,’ ” Mr. Bevelacqua recalled the briefer replying. He said he and other analysts were alarmed by this concession. “We are looking at ourselves saying, ‘What are we doing?’ ”

Another analyst, Robert L. Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel who works in the Pentagon for a military contractor, attended the same briefing and recalled feeling “very disappointed” after being shown satellite photographs purporting to show bunkers associated with a hidden weapons program. Mr. Maginnis said he concluded that the analysts were being “manipulated” to convey a false sense of certainty about the evidence of the weapons. Yet he and Mr. Bevelacqua and the other analysts who attended the briefing did not share any misgivings with the American public.

Mr. Bevelacqua and another Fox analyst, Mr. Cowan, had formed the wvc3 Group, and hoped to win military and national security contracts.

“There’s no way I was going to go down that road and get completely torn apart,” Mr. Bevelacqua said. “You’re talking about fighting a huge machine.”

Some e-mail messages between the Pentagon and the analysts reveal an implicit trade of privileged access for favorable coverage. Robert H. Scales Jr., a retired Army general and analyst for Fox News and National Public Radio whose consulting company advises several military firms on weapons and tactics used in Iraq, wanted the Pentagon to approve high-level briefings for him inside Iraq in 2006.

“Recall the stuff I did after my last visit,” he wrote. “I will do the same this time.”

Pentagon Keeps Tabs

As it happened, the analysts’ news media appearances were being closely monitored. The Pentagon paid a private contractor, Omnitec Solutions, hundreds of thousands of dollars to scour databases for any trace of the analysts, be it a segment on “The O’Reilly Factor” or an interview with The Daily Inter Lake in Montana, circulation 20,000.

Omnitec evaluated their appearances using the same tools as corporate branding experts. One report, assessing the impact of several trips to Iraq in 2005, offered example after example of analysts echoing Pentagon themes on all the networks.

“Commentary from all three Iraq trips was extremely positive over all,” the report concluded.

In interviews, several analysts reacted with dismay when told they were described as reliable “surrogates” in Pentagon documents. And some asserted that their Pentagon sessions were, as David L. Grange, a retired Army general and CNN analyst put it, “just upfront information,” while others pointed out, accurately, that they did not always agree with the administration or each other. “None of us drink the Kool-Aid,” General Scales said.

Likewise, several also denied using their special access for business gain. “Not related at all,” General Shepperd said, pointing out that many in the Pentagon held CNN “in the lowest esteem.”

Still, even the mildest of criticism could draw a challenge. Several analysts told of fielding telephone calls from displeased defense officials only minutes after being on the air.

On Aug. 3, 2005, 14 marines died in Iraq. That day, Mr. Cowan, who said he had grown increasingly uncomfortable with the “twisted version of reality” being pushed on analysts in briefings, called the Pentagon to give “a heads-up” that some of his comments on Fox “may not all be friendly,” Pentagon records show. Mr. Rumsfeld’s senior aides quickly arranged a private briefing for him, yet when he told Bill O’Reilly that the United States was “not on a good glide path right now” in Iraq, the repercussions were swift.

Mr. Cowan said he was “precipitously fired from the analysts group” for this appearance. The Pentagon, he wrote in an e-mail message, “simply didn’t like the fact that I wasn’t carrying their water.” The next day James T. Conway, then director of operations for the Joint Chiefs, presided over another conference call with analysts. He urged them, a transcript shows, not to let the marines’ deaths further erode support for the war.

“The strategic target remains our population,” General Conway said. “We can lose people day in and day out, but they’re never going to beat our military. What they can and will do if they can is strip away our support. And you guys can help us not let that happen.”

“General, I just made that point on the air,” an analyst replied.

“Let’s work it together, guys,” General Conway urged.

The Generals’ Revolt

The full dimensions of this mutual embrace were perhaps never clearer than in April 2006, after several of Mr. Rumsfeld’s former generals — none of them network military analysts — went public with devastating critiques of his wartime performance. Some called for his resignation.

On Friday, April 14, with what came to be called the “Generals’ Revolt” dominating headlines, Mr. Rumsfeld instructed aides to summon military analysts to a meeting with him early the next week, records show. When an aide urged a short delay to “give our big guys on the West Coast a little more time to buy a ticket and get here,” Mr. Rumsfeld’s office insisted that “the boss” wanted the meeting fast “for impact on the current story.”

That same day, Pentagon officials helped two Fox analysts, General McInerney and General Vallely, write an opinion article for The Wall Street Journal defending Mr. Rumsfeld.

“Starting to write it now,” General Vallely wrote to the Pentagon that afternoon. “Any input for the article,” he added a little later, “will be much appreciated.” Mr. Rumsfeld’s office quickly forwarded talking points and statistics to rebut the notion of a spreading revolt.

“Vallely is going to use the numbers,” a Pentagon official reported that afternoon.

The standard secrecy notwithstanding, plans for this session leaked, producing a front-page story in The Times that Sunday. In damage-control mode, Pentagon officials scrambled to present the meeting as routine and directed that communications with analysts be kept “very formal,” records show. “This is very, very sensitive now,” a Pentagon official warned subordinates.

On Tuesday, April 18, some 17 analysts assembled at the Pentagon with Mr. Rumsfeld and General Pace, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

A transcript of that session, never before disclosed, shows a shared determination to marginalize war critics and revive public support for the war.

“I’m an old intel guy,” said one analyst. (The transcript omits speakers’ names.) “And I can sum all of this up, unfortunately, with one word. That is Psyops. Now most people may hear that and they think, ‘Oh my God, they’re trying to brainwash.’ ”

“What are you, some kind of a nut?” Mr. Rumsfeld cut in, drawing laughter. “You don’t believe in the Constitution?”

There was little discussion about the actual criticism pouring forth from Mr. Rumsfeld’s former generals. Analysts argued that opposition to the war was rooted in perceptions fed by the news media, not reality. The administration’s overall war strategy, they counseled, was “brilliant” and “very successful.”

“Frankly,” one participant said, “from a military point of view, the penalty, 2,400 brave Americans whom we lost, 3,000 in an hour and 15 minutes, is relative.”

An analyst said at another point: “This is a wider war. And whether we have democracy in Iraq or not, it doesn’t mean a tinker’s damn if we end up with the result we want, which is a regime over there that’s not a threat to us.”

“Yeah,” Mr. Rumsfeld said, taking notes.

But winning or not, they bluntly warned, the administration was in grave political danger so long as most Americans viewed Iraq as a lost cause. “America hates a loser,” one analyst said.

Much of the session was devoted to ways that Mr. Rumsfeld could reverse the “political tide.” One analyst urged Mr. Rumsfeld to “just crush these people,” and assured him that “most of the gentlemen at the table” would enthusiastically support him if he did.

“You are the leader,” the analyst told Mr. Rumsfeld. “You are our guy.”

At another point, an analyst made a suggestion: “In one of your speeches you ought to say, ‘Everybody stop for a minute and imagine an Iraq ruled by Zarqawi.’ And then you just go down the list and say, ‘All right, we’ve got oil, money, sovereignty, access to the geographic center of gravity of the Middle East, blah, blah, blah.’ If you can just paint a mental picture for Joe America to say, ‘Oh my God, I can’t imagine a world like that.’ ”

Even as they assured Mr. Rumsfeld that they stood ready to help in this public relations offensive, the analysts sought guidance on what they should cite as the next “milestone” that would, as one analyst put it, “keep the American people focused on the idea that we’re moving forward to a positive end.” They placed particular emphasis on the growing confrontation with Iran.

“When you said ‘long war,’ you changed the psyche of the American people to expect this to be a generational event,” an analyst said. “And again, I’m not trying to tell you how to do your job...”

“Get in line,” Mr. Rumsfeld interjected.

The meeting ended and Mr. Rumsfeld, appearing pleased and relaxed, took the entire group into a small study and showed off treasured keepsakes from his life, several analysts recalled.

Soon after, analysts hit the airwaves. The Omnitec monitoring reports, circulated to more than 80 officials, confirmed that analysts repeated many of the Pentagon’s talking points: that Mr. Rumsfeld consulted “frequently and sufficiently” with his generals; that he was not “overly concerned” with the criticisms; that the meeting focused “on more important topics at hand,” including the next milestone in Iraq, the formation of a new government.

Days later, Mr. Rumsfeld wrote a memorandum distilling their collective guidance into bullet points. Two were underlined:

“Focus on the Global War on Terror — not simply Iraq. The wider war — the long war.”

“Link Iraq to Iran. Iran is the concern. If we fail in Iraq or Afghanistan, it will help Iran.”

But if Mr. Rumsfeld found the session instructive, at least one participant, General Nash, the ABC analyst, was repulsed.

“I walked away from that session having total disrespect for my fellow commentators, with perhaps one or two exceptions,” he said.

View From the Networks

Two weeks ago General Petraeus took time out from testifying before Congress about Iraq for a conference call with military analysts.

Mr. Garrett, the Fox analyst and Patton Boggs lobbyist, said he told General Petraeus during the call to “keep up the great work.”

“Hey,” Mr. Garrett said in an interview, “anything we can do to help.”

For the moment, though, because of heavy election coverage and general war fatigue, military analysts are not getting nearly as much TV time, and the networks have trimmed their rosters of analysts. The conference call with General Petraeus, for example, produced little in the way of immediate coverage.

Still, almost weekly the Pentagon continues to conduct briefings with selected military analysts. Many analysts said network officials were only dimly aware of these interactions. The networks, they said, have little grasp of how often they meet with senior officials, or what is discussed.

“I don’t think NBC was even aware we were participating,” said Rick Francona, a longtime military analyst for the network.

Some networks publish biographies on their Web sites that describe their analysts’ military backgrounds and, in some cases, give at least limited information about their business ties. But many analysts also said the networks asked few questions about their outside business interests, the nature of their work or the potential for that work to create conflicts of interest. “None of that ever happened,” said Mr. Allard, an NBC analyst until 2006.

MORE OF THIS LONG ARTICLE AT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?ex=1366344000&en=196b27df83cc255c&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:25 AM
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35. CNN is full of shit (I kept this record of the protests
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:06 AM
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40. Thanks....I Bookmarked it and those new DU'er should check it out since Media is
beginning their spin for the November elections. They are making their own Bush/Cheney "reality" by trying to say that Iraq is going so well...that Americans just don't care about it anymore and they've always supported it...even when the polls don't lie and the pictures and articles prove them wrong.

This is a great reference.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:09 AM
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41. thanks...
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:30 AM
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36. And here's my video taken from a traffic cam on 15th and Constitution Ave
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tuggle Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:46 AM
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37. I find all TV journalists to be mouthpieces for the administration
I only get my news from Amy Goodman and Diane Rehm of wamu.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:50 AM
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NO ONE IN THE STREETS ???. . .FUCK THEM!:
and half of these are from corpomedia sites!







and when NO ONE PUBLISHES A PICTURE??
from traffic cams in Washington:



FUCK THEM ALL
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 07:50 AM
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38. The media has sanitized Iraq for us - no body bags are shown
coming home, like they were in Vietnam. No cyring mothers on TV standing over their dead son's grave...

In fact, they're not even called body bags anymore - they're transfer tubes.

Additionally, not having the draft has led to apathy among the college-aged types who normally would be among the first out in the streets...



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:16 AM
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43. To the Hague with all of them
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 08:17 AM by goclark
I watched Morning Joe for about 5 minutes this morning and had to turn it off.

I like to take a peep and see if any of the faces have changed.
They don't sleep or eat ~ just round and round the same tired faces but JOE and Pat control the entire station.

Now it's Campbell Brown and all the rest at CNN.

Where is my Christina!!!! I love her and she tells the truth.

I heard her about two nights ago reporting from some far off land for about 1 minute.

The Hague for all of them(other than Keith,Rachel and Christina) because they led this country into War.
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