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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:05 AM
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Fire destroys Texas governor's mansion
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gAMSmoKySsFbvj0tS6tF...

Fire destroys Texas governor's mansion

2 hours ago

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) Texas state officials say a four-alarm fire has caused "catastrophic" damage to the Texas Governor's Mansion in Austin.

Governor's spokesman Robert Black says said no one was inside the 150-year-old home when the fire began shortly before 2 a.m. Sunday. He says the cause is not yet known.

The mansion had been undergoing a $10 million renovation and Gov. Rick Perry and his wife had moved out last fall.

Black says the damage to the mansion "is extraordinary, bordering on catastrophic."

He says more than 100 firefighters are at the scene and the roof of the mansion is very unstable.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:14 AM
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1. Here's some video from KVUE
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:07 PM
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16. Governor's Mansion heavily damaged by suspected arson
In a press conference later Sunday morning AFD officials said they were officially investigating this fire as an arson.

http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/060808govsmansion2...
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:15 AM
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2. Damn!
That was a beautiful building too. :cry:

dg
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:21 AM
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3. Oh no!! That is terrible.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:24 AM
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4. I was a tour guide at the Texas Governor's Mansion from 1998 - 2001
This has ruined my day. Black day for Texas history.

:cry:

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:53 AM
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7. Beautiful building. n/t
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:39 AM
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5. Thankfully the artworks and heirlooms had been removed
for the renovation project.

The most important item that needs to be removed is busholini surrogate goodhair perry.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:52 AM
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6. Is it wrong for me to be suspicious...
...whenever a building that a republican used to live in burns down?

Remember the fire at Dick's office (CNN)?

I wonder if any papers were lost in the Texas governor's mansion fire. Has there ever been a Texas governor who might have something to hide and would benefit from having them lost in a fire?

DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just asking a question.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:59 AM
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8. I think the Mansion was pretty much empty, due to the ongoing renovations
And the Governor doesn't really have an office in there, at all. He has two offices in the Capitol building, across the street, and a smaller area and security detail based out of the carraige house, out back.

I am worried about the staircase, though:

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/about/mansion/tour#entr...

"An important feature original to the house is the grand half-turn staircase. Governor James Hogg, the first native-born Texan to be governor, and his family occupied the house from 1891 to 1895. The Hogg children were very active and loved to slide down the banister. According to Miss Ima Hogg, after her brother Tom fell and was injured, Governor Hogg hammered tacks down the railing of the stairs to prevent any further mishaps. The filled nail holes are still visible."
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:55 PM
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17. Is it wrong to be suspicious
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 12:55 PM by musette_sf
...since i can think of one organization that perceives itself as particularly aggrieved by Perry at this particular time?

DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just asking a question.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:45 PM
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23. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just asking a question, but...
...since Texas is not the center of the universe, what are you talking about?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:13 AM
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:33 AM
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10. Pity. n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:39 AM
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11. Oh man. How can you ever replace something like that?
A 150-year-old home with that kind of history falls into the "priceless" category. What a damn shame.

There's no damn way they would burn down a building like that to cover up Republican malfeasance, so stop saying that. They'd just haul the evidence to whatever newish government building contains the government agency Texans hate the worst (the Highway Patrol is always a good candidate for that) and burn IT down. Who gives a shit about state police headquarters?
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:49 AM
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12. Some of the responses in this thread are digusting. Some Governors of Texas you obviously forgot:
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 11:51 AM by LucyParsons


Sam Houston, 1859 1861

Independent.

He twice ran for governor of Texas, unsuccessfully in 1857 and successfully against Hardin R. Runnels in 1859 as a Unionist, making him the only person in U.S. history to be the governor of two different states (as well as the only governor to previously have been a foreign head of state.) Despite Houston's being a slave owner and against abolition, he opposed the secession of Texas from the Union. In 1860, he offered the following prediction: "Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives you may win Southern independence, but I doubt it. The North is determined to preserve this Union."

Despite Houston's wishes, Texas seceded from the United States on February 1, 1861, and joined the Confederate States of America on March 2, 1861. This act was soon branded illegal by Houston, but the Texas legislature nevertheless upheld the legitimacy of secession. The political forces that brought about Texas's secession also were powerful enough to replace the state's Unionist governor. Houston chose not to resist, stating that, "I love Texas too well to bring civil strife and bloodshed upon her. To avert this calamity, I shall make no endeavor to maintain my authority as Chief Executive of this State, except by the peaceful exercise of my functions...." He was evicted from his office on March 16, 1861, for refusing to take an oath of loyalty to the Confederacy, writing,

"Fellow-Citizens, in the name of your rights and liberties, which I believe have been trampled upon, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the nationality of Texas, which has been betrayed by the Convention, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the Constitution of Texas, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of my own conscience and manhood, which this Convention would degrade by dragging me before it, to pander to the malice of my enemies....I refuse to take this oath."





Miriam Amanda Wallace "Ma" Ferguson, 1925 - 1927, 1933 - 1935

Democrat. The Hillary Clinton of 1925. Nuff said.






Daniel James Moody, Jr., 1927 - 1931

Democrat. Born in Taylor, Texas, he served as the Governor of Texas between 1927 and 1931, and is best remembered in Texas history as a reformer and an opponent of the Ku Klux Klan. At age 33, he was elected and served as the youngest Governor in Texas history.






Ann Richards, 1991 - 1995

Democrat. Although officially she was the second woman to hold Texas's top office, Richards is considered the first woman elected governor in her own right, since twice-elected Miriam "Ma" Ferguson is often discounted as having been a proxy for impeached governor James E. "Pa" Ferguson, her husband.

As governor, Richards reformed the Texas prison system, establishing a substance abuse program for inmates, reducing the number of violent offenders released, and increasing prison space to deal with a growing prison population (from less than 60,000 in 1992 to more than 80,000 in 1994). She backed proposals to reduce the sale of semi-automatic firearms and "cop-killer" bullets in the state.

She was famous for her personal charisma, for her ease with the public, and even for her see-through wispy white hairdo. It was said that many people who knew her personally saw little if any difference between her public and private personas. Her sense of humor was often part of her day-to-day political life. Regarding a concealed weapons bill, she was asked if she didn't think the women of Texas might feel safer if they could carry guns in their purses. She replied, "Well I'm not a sexist, but there is not a woman in this state who could find a gun in her handbag, much less a lipstick." On the subject of women in politics, Richards observed during her 1988 Democratic National Convention keynote address that "Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels."



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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:50 AM
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13. That's sad, that's the people's house.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:53 AM
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14. Amen.
:cry:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:00 PM
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15. Arson.
CNN
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:33 PM
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18. I hope all are safe,
am just sorry *dumbass wasn't occupying it at the time. No, facist Agent Mike, don't wish him harm..God/dess will take care of that :P
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:34 PM
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19. Fire marshal says Texas Governor's Mansion blaze appears deliberate
Fire marshal says Texas Governor's Mansion blaze appears deliberate

02:20 PM CDT on Sunday, June 8, 2008

By CHRISTY HOPPE and EMILY RAMSHAW / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN A pre-dawn fire that nearly destroyed the Texas Governors Mansion appears to have been intentionally set.

State Fire Marshal Paul Maldonado said Sunday that investigators have evidence that an arsonist targeted the 152-year-old building. They have made no arrests, and dont have a suspect.

An official close to the investigation said agents determined the fire was a criminal act after reviewing footage from security cameras. A national response team from the U.S. Department of Justice arrives Monday to help dig through the wreckage for clues.

No one was injured in the four-alarm blaze, which engulfed the historic landmark and sent orange flames billowing from the front door and second story terrace.

-snip-

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestne...



The pictures look horrible. This is very sad
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:38 PM
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20. Very sad.
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 02:41 PM by Mugu




Edited to add overhead photo.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:43 PM
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21. noooo!
This sucks. :( The mansion was gorgeous.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:34 PM
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22. Bush Karma with a delayed fuse.
Is our homeowner's policy on the White House paid up?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:47 PM
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24. I really loved that building.
Seeing it destroyed today broke my heart.

I cannot wrap my mind around what would cause a person to do such a thing.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:50 PM
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25. Regardless of the current and most recent inhabitants, the mansion is a gorgeous building.
I hope the twisted piece of human garbage that burned it is caught and brought to justice.
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