Lieberman On Bush Comparing Democrats To Nazi-Appeasers: ‘The President Got It Exactly Right’»

[babylonsister]

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/15/lieberman-bush-appeasers/

Lieberman On Bush Comparing Democrats To Nazi-Appeasers: ‘The President Got It Exactly Right’»

Delivering an address before the Israeli Knesset today, President Bush said that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Democrats favor a policy of appeasement toward terrorists.

Obama quickly responding, criticizing Bush for using the “60th anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack.” As MSNBC reported, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), a strong supporter of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), has also now issued a statement, saying that he wholeheartedly agrees with Bush’s comments:

President Bush got it exactly right today when he warned about the threat of Iran and its terrorist proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. It is imperative that we reject the flawed and naïve thinking that denies or dismisses the words of extremists and terrorists when they shout “Death to America” and “Death to Israel,” and that holds that — if only we were to sit down and negotiate with these killers — they would cease to threaten us. It is critical to our national security that our commander-in-chief is able to distinguish between America’s friends and America’s enemies, and not confuse the two.

Watch it at link~

In an interview with MSNBC, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) sharply criticized both Bush and Lieberman, saying that the President should apologize to the public for politicizing the 60th anniversary of Israel:

What an irony to have the current president in Israel blasting Democrats from the Knessett when his policies have actually seen al Qaeda get strengthened. They have seen al Qaeda be reconstituted. They have seen al Qaeda get stronger, Hamas get stronger, Israel more threatened, Iran is stronger, and Iraq is in chaos.

This is a disgraceful statement by the President. It really is. He ought to apologize to the American people for going to Israel and using the Knesset and the celebration of the 60 anniversary of a state and a people that we all support and that we’re all proud of, and using it for politics.

Kerry also noted that if Bush is saying that he is against talks with Iran, then he should “come home and call for the resignation of his own cabinet, because the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense have both favored negotiations with Iran.”

[The Magistrate]

1. The Man Needs To Sit Down And Shut The Fuck Up, Ma'am

"More Wars! Less Jobs! McCain '08"

[babylonsister]

4. No kidding! Or at the very least, change party allegiance. nt

[JerseygirlCT]

43. Exactly!

I couldn't possibly loathe the guy more, I really couldn't.

[PghTiny]

2. Time to strip Holy Joe of his committee assignments

n/t

[still_one]

5. We don't need him to align with the Democrats anymore, tell him to go to the other side

I am sure the Democratic leadership who helped enable bush the past 8 years won't do it, but a new day is coming, and it is right around the corner

If lieberman is so gunho, I suggest his grandkids enlist immediately, or HE SHOULD STFU

[roguevalley]

21. he's advertising for McCain on his website.

[XOKCowboy]

24. Which of course is illegal...

It's going to be fun after the election when he's no longer relevant and can be stripped of his committee assignments and chairmanship.

[Ian David]

44. I say we just strip him. Period. n/t

[MinM]

3. LIEberman: the William F Buckley gift that keeps on giving:(nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Joe let me spell this for you

It is the Bush Republicans (or at least some in the base) who'd love to bring back the ovens for folks like you

Then again, you'd serve as a capo

And yes I wrote this and Joe, as a child of a holocaust survivor, (and a history degree) I have a clue of what I am talking about.

So if you truly like to lay with them, well fine, but SHUT THE FUCK UP

[w13rd0]

7. HELLO SEN REID!!! ATTENTION PLEASE!!!

Is THIS enough? Reid has no idea how much the people of the United States would appreciate the Democrats visibly showing some backbone by publicly and loudly denouncing and rejecting Lieberman. They can even make it part of the theme of "doing things differently". GET RID OF HIM!

[Supersedeas]

51. enough is enough Harry

[w13rd0]

52. Bad form to respond to myself...

...but it might even be worthwhile to throw in a little arrogance. Say that you are so confident of an Obama win and gains in Congress, that while it pains the Party to see an old friend sink to such lows, Lieberman has given the Democratic Party no choice but to treat him with the "Shunning".

[Seedersandleechers]

8. He's despicable.

I hope he chokes.

[FiveGoodMen]

9. Much as I like Gore, I'll never understand him choosing this idiot to run with

Joe would have been a heartbeat from the presidency and the button.

If Gore had been inaugurated and then died, would we have been better or worse off than we are now with Bush?

[Qutzupalotl]

10. This kind of thing is why I call him Traitor Joe.

[LaurenG]

11. Lieberman and Bush are both idiots

add in McCain and we have a real troupe of "morans."

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. Iran? His VP did business with 'em. n/t

[Wizard777]

16. Bush's grandfather was Hitlers business partner.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

13. All I can do is

:eyes:

[babylonsister]

14. Lieberman is Out of Line (another article/link)

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/5/15/12512/1073

Lieberman is Out of Line

by BooMan
Thu May 15th, 2008 at 12:05:11 PM EST


The effort to turn Iran into the latest incarnation of Nazi Germany is deeply dishonest and depressing. For some people, anyone that makes Israel uncomfortable is a de facto Nazi. Iran has not fought a war of territorial expansion in centuries. I can't even think of an example in the last 500 years. What's more, Israel is armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. Iran has no nuclear weapons. And, if they did have them, they'd be no more likely to explode one in Israel than Pakistan is today. If Pakistan were to attack Israel with nuclear weapons there would be no need for America to 'obliterate' them because Israel would do the job first.

snip//

What does Joe want to do? Kill all the Iranians? Kill all the Lebanese? Kill all the Gazans? That kind of exterminationist thinking is a lot closer to NaziThink than Joe would like to admit. But it's implicit in his logic. And why does Joe Lieberman say that these groups threaten 'us'? Has Hezbollah attacked America, or attacked Americans in the last twenty years? Has Hamas, ever?

You want to know what has made Israel safer than anything else in its history? The peace treaties that Carter hammered out with Egypt and Clinton hammered out with Jordan. That was accomplished by talking, not fighting. Israel no longer faces any credible threat of land invasion, and they have the last two Democratic presidents to thank for it. Presidents Reagan and Bush encouraged two disastrous invasions of Lebanon. That's the kind of terrible advice Israel has received from Republican leaders that are supposed to be strong on terrorism. Prior to the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, suicide bombing was almost unheard of in the Islamic world, and Iran's influence was almost completely contained within their own borders.

Comparing Iran to Nazi Germany is a grave insult to our intelligence. Even our Secretaries of Defense and State recognize the necessity and advisability of engaging Iran. Is it any wonder why the Democrats kicked Joe Lieberman out of the party? I don't know what it would take to convince him that his policies make Israel less secure. History is so stark and decisive on the matter, that I suppose Lieberman just doesn't read it.

[spanone]

15. bu$h* had joe from the word nazi

[Wizard777]

17. There is no comming back to the party for Joe!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

18. What I don't get is how Joe can support someone

whose grandfather supported the Nazis and who, himself, is all in favor of creating a fascist state.

[spanone]

20. blinded by the sheer power of his senatorial position...arrogance, besides that, he's an asshole

[Dr Fate]

19. It's too bad the Blue Dogs didnt support Lamont-But at least they "taught the netroots a lesson."

Those crazy, radical, out-of-touch, disloyal DEMS will learn one of these days, I guess. ;)

[liberal N proud]

22. I think Lieberman just topped Zell Miller

[Fenris]

23. When we pick up more Senate seats in November

Joe is going to be in for a rude awakening when he's dropped off of his cherry committee assignments.

What a pea-brained asshole.

[Fenris]

25. Did I mention Joe's an asshole.

[Fenris]

26. Also, he's who Carly Simon wrote about in "You're So Vain."

[babylonsister]

34. LOL!

And I thought she was talking about Mick Jagger or Warren Beatty. Who knew?!

[Fenris]

27. He also enjoys giving victory speeches to his dog, Muffin.

[robertpaulsen]

42. Yes, and finishing each speech with a ceremonial tossing of his own poop.

Some other DUer came up with that. I can't remember who it was, but I'm pretty sure Swamp Rat found an image of Lieberman that matched that event.

[Canuckistanian]

28. Holy Joe knows he's toast in Nov.

He has no fear of any Democratic backlash.

So expect him to go gunning for a nice, cushy GOP gig of some kind.

Like cleaning toilets at RNC headquaters.

[cui bono]

29. And the Connecticut voters get to feel more and more stupid.

:eyes:

[KamaAina]

37. It was mostly repukes that put him over the top

quelle surprise.

The actual repuke candidate was a small-town mayor with a gambling problem named Alan Schlesinger. He picked up a grand total of seven percent of the vote. Guess where all the other repukes went?? 9Hint: not to Lamont.)

[cui bono]

45. I know, but if all the Dems voted Lamont I think he would've won since it was always Dem.

[bdamomma]

30. FALL RIGHT OFF THAT CLIFF LIEBERMAN!!

when is Lindsay going to chime in on this?

[Prophet 451]

31. Seig fucking Heil, Joe

The Nazis killed six million (at least) of your kin and you're ok with using their name to score cheap political points? Fine, if you can live with yourself but those animals killed half a million (at least) of my kin as well and I'm not fucking fine with you using the atrocity of their deaths to score points. I can't speak for them but I suspect a lot of Jewish people will be pretty fucking pissed at you for this shit as well. You don't own the holocaust, Joe, we all do, every one of us who had kin die because of Hitler's madness and you don't get to trot out teh spectre of genocide for your dog and pony show.

Do you even believe this shit, Joe? We've both got good reason to know what happened in those terrible years, we both know that the majority of Hitler's appeasers around the world knew full well that he was murdering Jews and Roma and millions more besides. Your people, Joe, my people were gassed and burned and the world's leaders knew it and did nothing because we were only Jews and only Roma and they didn't like us very much anyway. Do you honestly think, do you really and truly believe, that the Democratic party is perfectly willing to let millions of people die? Are you really that far gone?

This is the language of Bin Laden and Mussolini and Pol Pot and Magneto and yes, Hitler himself and every tyrant, real or fictional. Every one of them has told you to be afraid, every one has asked you to be so afraid that you don't look at what you're giving up. Yes, there are people who want to kill you, even now but that doesn't mean you have to act like a man scared of his own shadow. Caution is a good thing but panic only aids the tyrants. Of course, that's not a problem when you want to scare people. When you want to panic people so much that they'll do something, anything to make the fear stop. Georgie boy is evil, Joe but I thought you still had an inkling, just a trace, of honour left in you. Georgie would think nothing of comparing his political opponants to the men who let your kin and my kin be gassed and flayed and burned but you, Joe, you know what those words mean and you know that, in looking for negotiation, the very, very worst thing the Democrats can be accused of is naivete and probably not even that. But you're fine with conjuring up the image of genocide to hurl at your detractors.

Fuck you, Joe, and the high horse you rode in on. May your name be forgotten.

[wildflower]

32. Lieberman was Obama's mentor in the Senate

It must be painful for Obama to hear this. At least it would be for me.

wildflower

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35. Traitor Joe

God I hate him.

[KamaAina]

36. At least they've dropped the (ID-CT) crapola

"Independent Democrat"? What an oxymoron (and I don't mean Rush).

[madrchsod]

38. amazing that he sucks up to the party that basically hate the jews

the republicans have never liked the jews. they could`t join the clubs, could`t marry their children,and could`t buy homes property anywhere near them.

look in many republican`s closets and you`ll find a white sheet

[reggie the dog]

39. I really hope

we get at least a 50, +1 independent Sanders not Liberman) in November. then Joe can lose all of his positions, be an independent with no importance, and the left can controll the Senate. It is true that Liberman votes with the Democrats on most issues, and votes further to the left than some other senators on other issues, but on the question of terrorism he is very wrong and I do not want the USA to continue its wars of aggression. If the USSR had invaded Canada and Mexico wouldn't many of us Americans have been chanting "death to the USSR"? One need only look on a map to see why the people of Iran are quite angered and feel quite threatened by the USA. Sadly most Americans do not realize that the USA invaded the country just to the west of Iran, Iraq, and just to the east of Iran, Afganistan. I think we should explain that to people.

[BlueStater]

40. Is this turd still your mentor, Barack?

You praise him and he returns the favor by taking a weak, pissy little swipe at you.

[laylah]

41. It is PAST time that that

POS is thrown OUT of any and all formal positions he may hold! And as the wife of a Jew, he is a fucking traitor! :mad:

[invictus]

46. K & R

[Wilms]

47. Let's hope this is his last term. n/t

[autorank]

48. K*R sister. CENSURE THIS BUM

It's time to drop it all on this clown. They can't change the 110th agreement on how committees are
set and so forth. There will be a real Democratic Senate majority after 2008. So, all those Dem
lites, the sweet 16 who always vote against the people on key votes, they tam team up with the others
and show they're not total Quislings (which they are). Censure him. He just insulted the 70% of the
people who find Bush repellent and who also oppose the war.

Show some guts. A hard censure like Joe McCarthy. Teach this guy a lesson and Connecticut Republicans
also. Send us this type of clown and this is what you get. Ned Lamont was a very good candidate
and a fine person who got screwed by the too cute by half insiders in CT. Well, now they
can have a Senator off committees, shamed for being a SLANDERER.

Enough already.

[ToeBot]

49. When you're Harry Reid's best buddy you can get away with shit like this. nt

[ccharles000]

50. Why is he still a Democrat.

[Pastiche423]

53. Go cheney yourself, holy joe!