DC Madam hauls big box of evidence to Mom's before suicide

[Holly_Hobby]

Four days ago, the woman known as the "D.C. Madam" stood in the lobby of her condominium building near downtown Orlando, musing about the future. Deborah Jeane Palfrey said she was preparing for federal prison. She hoped she'd get time off her sentence for good behavior. She thought she might buy a place in Germany one day.

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"It's hard to believe," said Joseph Strizack, a condominium-association manager at Park Lake Towers who got to know Palfrey during her decade as an owner there. "She did not seem the least bit distraught."

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A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the District of Columbia said that under sentencing guidelines, Palfrey faced five to six years in prison. She was free until a sentencing hearing scheduled for July 24.


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A woman who worked for the escort service, former University of Maryland professor Brandy Britton, killed herself in January 2007 before she was scheduled to go to trial on prostitution charges. Palfrey said afterward that she was humiliated by her prostitution charges but added: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

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Blanche Palfrey had not noticed that her daughter was despondent or seen any signs of suicidal behavior, Young said.

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On Monday, Palfrey seemed no different. She carried clothing, briefcases and suitcases down the stairs from her second-floor apartment to a rented car in the parking lot, stopping to chat as usual. She told Strizack she was taking her property to her mother's home in preparation for prison. Contrary to the U.S. Attorney's Office estimate, she told the condo manager she thought she might spend six or seven years behind bars. On one trip down the stairs, she lugged a 2-foot-wide box she suggested carried materials related to her infamous court case. "This is my evidence," she told Strizack before carrying it out the door.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/orl-madam0208may02,0,5557053.story

Edited title from "Flordia" to "Mom's" - she was already in Florida

[Horse with no Name]

1. And then she was suicided

I wonder where that box is now?

[sasquatch]

2. People, put it in a safety deposit box if you're ewver in this situation

[intheflow]

9. I was thinking about that,

but then I thought about who controls the banks. I think if the government wanted to get into a safety deposit box citing national security, bankers would be all too happy to oblige. :(

[shance]

15. Homeland Security can illegally invade your bank box, thanks to the Patriot Act.

And they have already done so to a number of unsuspecting citizens.

[seemslikeadream]

3. she lugged a 2-foot-wide box

[Holly_Hobby]

4. This stinks to High Heaven

:hi:

[frogcycle]

13. congratulations

you stopped yourself.

[Junkdrawer]

22. Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown...n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. There goes that spin down the drain

that she wanted to commit suicide.

[Holly_Hobby]

6. We have one journalist say she wanted to kill herself,

but no tape, no other evidence.

[Uncle Joe]

7. I would imagine with good behavior even less time in prison, had her appeal not won out. I'm also

curious about this Dan E. Moldea, his version of her state of mind seems at odds with the others, I've read? I also wonder how much of that boxed evidence is missing?

"Still, Deborah Palfrey confided that she hated the idea of living behind bars, said Dan E. Moldea, a Washington writer who befriended Palfrey while considering writing a book about her. He recalled a conversation over dinner last year when the subject of prison came up.

"She said, 'I am not going back to prison. I will commit suicide first,' " Moldea recalled."

[DemReadingDU]

8. Where is that 2-foot-wide box?

Where did she put it, or did someone take it?

[judasdisney]

24. evidence will vanish -- it's FLORIDA

[Pastiche423]

10. She was murdered

I only hope that she was as meticulous about spreading her evidence (for safe keeping), as she was of her record keeping.

[lib2DaBone]

11. She stabbed herself,... then hung herself

She had so much evidence against Cheny.. I hope she sent copies to SOMEONE!

[lib2DaBone]

12. Forgot to Mention

After many years in Law enforcement & responding to calls, it is widely known that females do not usually shoot themselves in the face nor do they hang themselves. Of course, there are exceptions. But FEMALE SUICIDE is usually by pills, or more commonly by lateral wrist cuts.(Usually in teens or younger women). Serious suicidal women do MULTIPLE VERTICAL wrist cuts (up and down the forearm) which are very effective. I could be wrong, it's been a few years since I retired from crime scenes. Habits and tradition do change. Maybe some current CSI's can weigh in?

[Prophet 451]

18. Hanged, hanged!

Beef is hung, people are hanged!

(Sorry, pet peeve of mine)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. Hung is acceptable

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hang

usage For both transitive and intransitive senses 1b the past and past participle hung, as well as hanged, is standard. Hanged is most appropriate for official executions <he was to be hanged, cut down whilst still alive…and his bowels torn out — Louis Allen> but hung is also used <gave orders that she should be hung— Peter Quennell>. Hung is more appropriate for less formal hangings.

[Prophet 451]

23. Conceded with a caveat

I'm English. According to my copy of Fowlers MEU, "hanged" is still the proper term on this side of the Atlantic but "hung" is becoming more common as British English becomes increasingly Americanised. In other words, this seems to be a US/UK thing.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. Awww, I love the differences between British English and American English, and hope that

your language doesn't get too Americanized (you see, we use a "z" there)!

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Colloquially it'soften "hung," but I still think proper English

(American OR British) is hanged--whether or not it's a formal occasion.

As somebody said, "If it weren't for the honor of the occasion, I'd as soon forego the whole thing."

[shance]

14. Deborah Palfrey was murdered. DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION.

n/t

[tsdraegeth]

16. Investigation carried out

by the same people who did the murdering.

The disappearances and assassinations are endemic to this culture.

The problems we all decry are connected.

To stop one, we must stop all. Working within the system for any one change will only velcro us to another of the problems.

[formercia]

17. This has been going on for a long time

It's just recently that folks have begun to talk about it. I was almost recruited into a group that did these things. I was approached by a State investigator and a police officer that told me they 'took care' of people that 'were guilty' but used legal trickery to escape justice. At the time, I assumed it was a provocation and distanced myself, but now I'm not so sure.

[stubtoe]

26. That's truly terrifying.

:scared:

[nichomachus]

30. Investigation will be done by the same guy who whitewashed the Joe Scarborough case

[Prophet 451]

19. If she killed herself, I'm Donald Duck

This smacks of a suiciding.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

21. MSM reported that she was facing up to 55 years in prison, and that's why she committed suicide.

End of story with them.

When the dust settles, her expected sentence is 5-6 years.

I heard this woman on an internet radio show say that she would never commit suicide. She wanted to make that clear as she was fearful for her life.

[fascisthunter]

27. And I Bet Many Right Wingers Would See Her Death as Justified

as in being assassinated for what damaging information she had on certain political figures. Welcome to fascism, the ugly twin of totalitarian Communism. In the end, right wingers are just as bad as the communists they bitch about.

[Holly_Hobby]

28. More today:

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Palfrey’s building manager said she often told him she believed she was being followed and he thinks there may have been some former clients of her escort service who wanted her dead. "She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," her building manager said.

Palfrey's Lexus is still parked in the Park Lake garage and the staff said on Monday, she asked about making sure her condo fees would continue to be paid during what Palfrey anticipated would be six years in prison.

They said she left that day with some suitcases and a box.

"She had one white paper file box that she told me had some important paper with her and then she just kind of raised her eyebrows like you're supposed to think oh yeah, that's all the information that she had on her business in Washington," her building manager said.

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http://www.wesh.com/news/16142638/detail.html

If you were contemplating or planning suicide, would you make sure that your condo fees were being paid???

[Ichingcarpenter]

32. Thanks for the update.... Yep, Even Inspector Clouseau

could figure out this case.

[file83]

29. Remember Raymond Lemme.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1244">Another "suicide" case.

[tomp]

31. Where's the box?

If it can be determined that she brought the box to her mother's house and it is not there now, or she did not give to to someone, we must presume murder.

Also, frankly, I find it hard to believe that the only copies of this crucial evidence/leverage were in that one box. If she didn't give it to her lawyers, or to multiple people, she was stupid, or at best, ill-advised (which would tell us something also).

[ck4829]

34. Watch this be seized as "evidence"