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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:36 PM
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DC Madame: Death by hanging. Presser now in progress. n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:39 PM
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1. That means
the Clintons did not do it.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:40 PM
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2. Why now?
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:41 PM by plcdude
Remember this http://www.alternet.org/election08/82591 /
Perhaps she had the goods on the presumed presidential candidate.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:40 PM
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3. She hung herself in a shed next to a trailer?
I'm not near a TV. How far away was the shed from the trailer?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:42 PM
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5. Close and if I was going to commit suicide it wouldn't be in a place where
my 76 year old mother would find me!!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:47 PM
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12. Exactly. But, I'm also wondering about the proximity
of the shed in relation to the trailer. If that's a trailer park, was she seen going by herself to the shed or was there any strangers present in the neighborhood. Perhaps there are witnesses.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:47 PM
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13. Don't try to figure out why and where people commit suicide
it rarely makes sense. You impose your own logical thought process on someone who was operating from a different process.

I've seen people who slashed their wrists with a double-edged razor blade, but carefully taped up one side of the blade -- apparently so they wouldn't cut their finger.

However, there's a good chance that whoever did this, chose this location just so her mother would find her.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:42 PM
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4. Is this THE "DC madame" who has been in the news so much, or just
SOME "DC madame"???
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:43 PM
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It's Deborah
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:43 PM
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7. THE DC madame
Hanging seems a strange method.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:43 PM
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6. Hanging - - is this a typical mechanism for female suicide?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:44 PM
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8. also is it typical for someone to make sure your 76 year old mother would find you?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:46 PM
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11. especially hanging in a fucking storage shed??
i wouldn't want my mom finding me like that.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:34 PM
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41. Men often make a mess when they kill themselves.
They frequently blow their brains out.

Women tend to think about how they will be found. Some take a bath, put on their prettiest nightgown, get in bed and take a bunch of pills they've saved.

I have that from a reporter who used to be on the police beat and often was on the scene as quickly as EMS.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:44 PM
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9. i don't think so. from what i remember learning about it--drug overdose
is more typical for female suicide.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:16 PM
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36. I would thing a DC madame...
could get a hold of some pretty good shit to ease on out.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:46 PM
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10. I think pills is more common....
Hanging might easily involve someone else, if you catch my drift.
Just sayin'..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:48 PM
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14. Our drift
Never mind they'll find some hardware store willing to say she bought the rope there.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:30 PM
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38. Well, with the price of prescription drugs these days
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:35 PM
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42. No -- it's the least common form
Pills or poison lead the list, followed closely by firearms. Hanging is way down. However, if the mood overcomes you at a certain moment, then it's easier, as it doesn't require any special equipment. No prescription drugs, trips to the hardware store for the right poison, or buying a firearm.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:41 PM
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49. No It Is Not
Self-poisoning is the method employed in 70 percent of all suicide attempts by women.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:48 PM
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15. Are we HONESTLY supposed to believe she KILLED HERSELF?
Has this country gone completely insane?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:59 PM
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22. Next, you'll tell me that the St. Valentine's Day Mass Suicide was murder...
You tinfoil hatters get me...
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:29 PM
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48. LOL
clever
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:32 PM
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39. Glad someone finally got to that question cause I don't believe it..... !!!
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:32 PM by defendandprotect
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:49 PM
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16. her lawyer better have that list
with clear instructions to release it in the event of her untimely death.

and NOT just to the MSM. they'll bury it. give it to Larry Flynt & the series of tubes known as the Interwebs. i'll make sure my parents read it if they ever want to see their grandkids again.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:54 PM
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19. I understand Flynt already has the list..
Assuming he is still alive.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:43 PM
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45. I think a "list" doesn't quite do what her personal testimony would have done ---
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:46 PM by defendandprotect
her personal identification of those on the list ---

Am I wrong?

PLUS . . . another way of making it very uncomfortable for the lawyers who do try to do the right
thing in helping someone like her ---
the lawyers trying to help the prisoners in Gitmo have been harassed, as well ---





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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:50 PM
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17. Didn't she publicly state in some interviews that if she were found dead, it wouldn't be suicide?
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:53 PM by paxmusa
God, I hope no one caught my initial spelling error in the title....
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:01 PM
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26. Yes:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:34 PM
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40. Well . . . that seems perfectly clear . . . and she's not the first to have said
this and then be "suicided" . . . !!!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:53 PM
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18. Hanging doesn't ring true with me.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:54 PM by Cleita
If I were to off myself, I would make myself an Oleander cocktail. Hanging would be convenient if a killer garroted the victim and then set up the scene as a suicide.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:01 PM
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25. Foul play not suspected because they found a note
WTF?????

This before they even check the handwriting!!!

Spin away GEM$NBC hacks!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:56 PM
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20. I don't believe she killed herself

She was too eager to bring down some scuzzy politicians with her. She
would have done that, and then fought the conviction.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:58 PM
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21. dead whores in D.C.... never a good sign
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:00 PM
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24. SHE WASN'T A WHORE
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:00 PM
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23. I'll wait for the autopsy.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:05 PM
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29. It will be "inconclusive; suffocation w/ probability of hanging." Bet you.
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:07 PM
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31. Is an autopsy required by state law
in a case of "suicide"? Maybe not. They probably need to suspect foul play before one is required. Otherwise the victim's family may have to pay for one.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:28 PM
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37. ROFLOL
This is freaking Florida -- where a disgraced "medical examiner" ruled that Joe Scarborough's aide -- who was found dead in Joe's office with blunt force trauma to the head -- died of a heart attack.

You just wait for the autopsy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:00 PM
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47. so true. They could find an entire drug store in her veins and still
rule it a suicide.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:03 PM
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27. UHOh GEMNBC has dragged out someone who knew her
oh so well complete with an English accent. Contessa's producer has clearly decided how this should be spun.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:04 PM
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28. here is a updated newslink wtop.com
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1396668
..snip

Palfrey's 76-year-old mother, Blanche Palfrey, found her daughter hanged using a nylon rope from a metal beam on the ceiling of a storage shed outside her home, police say.

Her mother began searching for Palfrey after she awoke from a nap and could not find her daughter, who was staying with her at her home. Blanche Palfrey went into the shed after noticing a 3-wheel bicycle normally kept inside the shed had been moved, police say.



and here is the spin quote from the story



On several occasions, Palfrey told WTOP she'd be damned if federal prosecutors convicted her and said she considered any jail time a life sentence.

Most of Palfrey's assets were frozen by federal authorities, in October 2006, after an IRS investigation.

Despite her legal woes, Palfrey remained proud of her business.
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:06 PM
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30. Google the name Brandy Britton
:wow:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:13 PM
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32. Another "Hanging"... (or...strangulation restaged as hanging)...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:40 PM
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43. Wow . . . worked for the DC Madam --- and also "hanged herself" . . . !!! 2/06/07
Accused D.C. madam: Britton worked for her
360 days ago - A woman accused of running a Washington-area prostitution ring says former University of Maryland professor Brandy Britton worked for her.

Brandy Britton Found Dead in Her Baltimore Home - The Crime library
Police say former professor turned call girl hanged herself 02/06/2007 ... was actually 43-year-old Brandy Britton, a former sociology and anthropology ...
www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0207/0601_brandy_bri... - Cached
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:14 PM
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33. We always knew this would happen
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:15 PM by downstairsparts
We already knew whodunit (or would do it) and why. We just didn't know when or how.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:15 PM
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34. she did too
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:15 PM
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35. of course
That's how we knew.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:42 PM
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44. Predictable but as yet not stoppable . . . WHY?
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:53 PM
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46. Question:
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:53 PM by adsosletter
without Ms. Palfrey alive to either confirm or deny, how can we now trust the accuracy of any list of names which might actually be released?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:44 PM
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50. interview
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:22 PM
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51. suppose that someone choked her out with a choke hold ...
They would need a cause of suicide consistent with the chokehold. A staged hanging would cover that, and it would help to blur any physical clues left for autosopy by the choking.
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