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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:27 PM Original message |
Making a Killing from Hunger: (The real causes of the food crisis) |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. KnR |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. K & R |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is great. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. profit is the root of all evil. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. The farmers of the world will be happy to know the earth produces for free. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. k&r -- If the peasants of the developed world should ever find themselves bestirred to take up |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Unfortunately, the "peasants" running things isn't working too well in Zimbabwe. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I edited my post, sorry. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. No need for apologies... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. "...the powerlust and greed of the few." Sounds like a pretty good description of what's happening |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Understood. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Famine in China: imperial rule, western rule, communist rule: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The situation in Zimbabwe has nothing to do with peasants running things. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yeah, there's that, too... |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Finish the progression, please. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. sorry, that's nonsense. n/t |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Could you expand on that, please? eom |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. What's to expand? The situation in Zimbabwe has nothing to do with |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Don't recall where I said they did... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Does this jog your memory? |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. To end this silliness... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You seem to think that Zimbabwe's in crisis because |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You seemed to have missed the point. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yes, I dispute it. The simplistic narrative about M. giving white farms to |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Goodnight, Hannah... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. People should investigate things beyond what the BBC & NYT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. "He failed because he gave land to folks who didn't know squat about modern farming," |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Yeah, I too liked that racist bullshit! Smug fuck! |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
10. HuffPo linked an article from the Washington Post that is worth a read |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
29. kick |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
30. Socialism NOW! n/t |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
31. OVERPOPULATION must be addressed. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Our lifestyle is the problem, not people |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No, OVERPOPULATION is the problem. Even if there were enough food, it is not where the people are. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. There is enough food to feed everyone. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Food is not the only thing people need survive. Energy, transportation, electricity, housing, sewage |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Starvation should help with that pesky overpopulation problem and make lots of people rich, too. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The point is to avoid population. If that man in the dress from the Vatican would let Third World |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It's not Catholic countries with the highest birthrates. It's not |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Somehow we have to get beyond national boundaries and because the environment does as well. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. The developed world, with less than half the world's population, |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Your reading "quit having kids so there's more for us" problem is coming solely from you. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. sustainable? in whose earth? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I feel like I'm talking to a wall. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I feel like I'm talking to one, too. There are political boundaries. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The root of the problem is that you refuse to address 75% of the world's consumption. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. 25% of the world's consumption is the US (5% of world population). |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. This discussion began with you calling out the pope on birth control. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. You refuse to address 75% of the world's overconsumption even in your own mistaken view that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. it was you brought up the pope, creating the "boundary" |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I was trying to disabuse you of the notion that the planet's environment honors boundaries. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. the birthrate in the us& europe is 2.1 or less. n/t |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. My two bits. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. WTO, World Bank, IMF making good on a 2000 promise. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The US government sets quotas/subsidies at the behest of whom? |
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Tashca (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I disagree on many fronts |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. Fuck you World Bank! |
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Tashca (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. Thank you for shedding a light |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. It's a twofer |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. K&R n/t |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R'd. (This had all the markings of an artificially-exacerbated crisis.) nt |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 04:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Haven't they all been? and the greatest real crisis still goes unexamined. |
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