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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:27 PM
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I just found out about this. Denver has a curfew for teens???
http://cbs4denver.com/local/Denver.Police.Curfew.2.557741.html

Apr 2, 2007 12:47 pm US/Mountain

Curfew For Juveniles Goes Into Effect In Denver



Curfew For Juveniles Goes Into Effect In Denver
DENVER (CBS4) ― Denver police say a citywide curfew for juveniles is now in effect.

As of Sunday night, police will ticket anyone 17 or younger who is caught on the streets after 11 p.m. Sunday through Thursday.

On Friday and Saturday the curfew starts an hour later at midnight.

Police said the program is designed to reduce violence during the warmer months.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:29 PM
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1. Good. I used to live in Spring, Texas and we had a curfew there.
And it worked.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:31 PM
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2. I don't think it's very good at all. Kids can get in trouble just as easily at 9 and 10 PM
if they want to get into trouble.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:46 PM
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11. They work
"Police in Phoenix say that gang-related murders, drive - by shootings, robberies, and serious assaults have dropped by 42 percent since the curfew became law. In New Orleans, teen crime dropped by 27 percent after the curfew law was passed.

Though Bill Clinton and Bob Dole don't agree on much these days, they both strongly support youth curfews. In a recent speech to police officers, Dole said that it was time to get tough, with young criminals by trying them as adults and by imposing strict curfews on school nights. In a New Orleans speech, President Clinton urged that teens should be at home in "every city" by 8 p.m. on school nights and by 11 p.m. on weekends. "

Granted this is from 1995..

Your assumption indicated that all kids who do get into trouble wanted to get into trouble. Sometimes kids with no desire for problems can get caught up in something..
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:10 PM
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16. "if they want to get into trouble"
If they are looking for Trouble, they can find it at any time of day.

But Trouble comes looking later in the evening, in my experience.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:11 PM
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17. "processor error" I hate it when that happens.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:17 PM by TomInTib
If they are looking for Trouble, they can find it at any time of day.

But Trouble comes looking later in the evening, in my experience.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:35 PM
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3. My city in WI also has a curfew...
we have since I was a teen, but I have never heard of it actually being enforced, and I don't even know what the penalty is for breaking it. When I was younger I thought "what a stupid idea", but now that I have a 14 year old daughter I think that if she were out after midnight (when sleeping over at a friends or something) I would damn sure like to know about it...I truly have turned into my mother!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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5. I am a very responsible parent with 2 sons. My oldest is 21 now and my youngest is
17. I have been flexible with their curfews as long as I know/knew where they are. My youngest has a friend in our development, and I have no problem at all if he stays there until 1 or 2 AM to come home to sleep. He actually does call me.

I dislike the fact that this is an enforceable law with penalties.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:05 PM
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15. I see where your coming from...
maybe it's easy for me to be accepting of this because although our law is enforcable, it rarely or never is. If there are monetary penalties, I have a problem with that too, because ultimately I think most times the parents would have to pay. Luckily for me, my daughter is pathologically well behaved, but if she were ever to be out that late and I didn't know (I'm drawing on what a shithead I was when I was that age for the hypothetical), I would want to know...Rational me says it's a bad idea...neurotic reformed horrible teenage girl and now parent to a teenage girl thinks otherwise:shrug:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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4. It's 10 o'clock in Portland
Midnight on Friday and Saturday.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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6. there is one here in the springs as well. don't know how much good it does.
and I wonder how it works for teens who work late hours at the fast-food choke-and-pukes, or other jobs.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:44 PM
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8. That's why its not really all that enforceable with most of the McNasty's
open till midnight or later (some 24/7).
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:44 PM
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7. I spent my teens and early 20s in Denver...
My experience was that there is nothing the Denver cops enjoy more than harassing young people. I suspect not much has changed.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:45 PM
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10. They love harassing kids here too. One of their favorite things is to stop them in their cars
without just cause.
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Mr. McD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:45 PM
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9. I lived in Denver back in the 60's, they had a cerfew back then too
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 01:46 PM by Mr. McD
I never paid much attention to it though.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:53 PM
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12. That's what I thought -- I seem to remember there being a curfew
Maybe it wasn't a formal one--like cops needed an actual law to jack anyone up--but I always remember that announcement on the TV, "It's ten o'clock. Do you know where your children are?"
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:53 PM
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13. There was one in the early 80's as well
I ignored it religiously.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:01 PM
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14. Lots of suburbs have curfews.
Unless one is out for a good reason - work, driving a family member who can't drive, etc.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:14 PM
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18. a lot of cities/suburbs do
but not always heavily enforced...
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:15 PM
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19. We have it here in Philly but I've only ever heard of it being enforced once NT
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:21 PM
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20. All stick and no carrot
Typical American attitude, ham-handedly crack down on everyone while not allowing for positive alternatives. Wasn't there a political leader who supported things like midnight basketball, tried to get the youth doing constructive activities, even though it cost a little money? I believe his name was Clinton, had a few other enlightened ideas that got immediately defunded when skinflint Republicans got back in charge.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:40 PM
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21. Those things are constructive and effective, but they don't give
law enforcement the "tools" they need to be able to hassle anyone at any time for any reason. Or no reason at all.

You must understand that to maintain security, the police must exercise absolute authority over all citizens. And in order to sustain an orderly society, it is best to expose young citizens early to the positive attributes of a totalitarian police state before they get any radical liberal ideas about "rights" or "freedom".

It really shouldn't be necessary, but :sarcasm:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:43 PM
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22. amarillo texas. under 17 i believe 12. might be 11 but recently told 12
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 02:44 PM by seabeyond
by someone. i am not into it and would prefer there wasnt.... but oh well. not gonna battle
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