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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:27 PM
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Your Legacy Mr. President - Chapter One: War Crimes-Larisa Alexandrovna
Your Legacy Mr. President - Chapter One: War Crimes


Bush has said continuously that it is not us who should judge him, but history.

"The true history of my administration will be written 50 years from now, and you and I will not be around to see it."

Nuremberg_trials Neither Bush or anyone else has to wait for the judgment of tomorrow. One of the most notorious chapters of the Bush reign, if not THE most notorious, is the order given by Bush and carried out by his loyalists to torment, torture, and nearly kill prisoners of war in violation of Geneva conventions, international law and domestic law.

The crimes committed on his order, in our name, have already been judged in the past, when other, morally bankrupt leaders engaged in extreme human rights abuses.

What this president and his cabal have done will haunt this nation until the end of history. Bush need not, however, point to some future historian as deciding the legacy of his administration, because we already know now what his legacy will be and what it already is. We now know without doubt the following:

Sometime soon after September 11, 2001:
1. The President of the United States authorized the top people in his administration to discuss ways to torment, torture, and nearly kill prisoners of war in violation of Geneva conventions, international law and domestic law. (See here).

February 7, 2002:
2.The President of the United States signed a memo indicating that Geneva Conventions - in violations of international and domestic law - no longer applied to Gitmo prisoners. (See here).

Spring of 2002:
3. The Vice President of the United States (Dick Cheney), then-National Security Adviser (Condoleezza Rice), then-Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld), then-Secretary of State (Colin Powell), then-Director of the CIA (George Tenet), and then-US Attorney General (John Ashcroft) met with the President's authority to discuss methods torment, torture, and nearly- kill prisoners of war in violation of Geneva conventions, international law and domestic law. (See here).

4. Torture, torment and near-killing of prisoners of war begins as official policy at Gitmo (various groups including military Joint Task Force 170 appear to be involved), in violation of Geneva conventions, international law and domestic law. (See here).

August 1, 2002:
5. Lawyers Jay Bybee , John Yoo and David Addington issue the infamous memo defining physical pain as "must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death." (See here).

Just to note: despite the Bybee memo being addressed entirely to CIA activities and "outside the United States," (so not applicable to military activities on US military bases), the memo was issued in any case AFTER Bush had suspended Geneva conventions at Gitmo and AFTER torture techniques were already employed. So even if this document were any form of cover (I am no attorney, but it everyone I talked with agrees it was not), it was still issued AFTER these activities had begun. >>>>>snip

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:45 PM
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1. I would not count on it.
"The true history of my administration will be written 50 years from now, and you and I will not be around to see it."

The generation over in Iraq that has been slaughter are telling his history now. The world is already writing it- and they are horrified that Americans do nothing about it. They ask what is wrong with us? I wonder the same thing?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:17 PM
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2. Nearly? They did kill.
C'mon Larisa, I expect better of you.

-Hoot
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:25 PM
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3. Disgust. Pure disgust.
And little else. There is a war criminal in our White House.

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