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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:03 PM
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Randi Rhodes Quits Air America Rather Than Apologize For Hillary Clinton "F*cking Whore" Remark; "Th
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 02:10 PM by RamboLiberal
At the risk of starting another Randi Rhodes thread.

Update: The Huffington Post has learned that Randi Rhodes quit Air America after being asked by the network to apologize for her inflammatory remarks against Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro.

A source at Air America, who asked to remain anonymous, said, "Many people screw up and then apologize and move on. Like Imus. Like David Shuster. Like Jay Rockefeller on McCain. Like Obama on Rezko. Like Hillary on Bosnia. Randi Rhodes refused to apologize for her obscene comments and has chosen instead to terminate her relationship with Air America."

The source also said that there is no love lost between Rhodes and her colleagues at the network. "No one is upset. She made the move but there's relief and joy."

Dismissing claims that Rhodes was just doing stand-up comedy in San Francisco when she made the remarks, the source confirmed that Air America paid her way to California, that she was advertised as "Air America's Randi Rhodes," and that the Air America website urged people to go for "an evening of politics and pop culture." The source said, "Air America pays people to be talk show hosts, not stand-up comics, or else we'd hire Chris Rock."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/randi-rhodes-quits-air-am_n_96050.html

I've always thought that Randi was never a good fit at AAR and that she was not very happy there. As a talk show host I think there are times she is very, very, good and at times I've found her mediocre. She needs to get over jealousy over other hosts ala when Franken was on and this bad mouthing of Ed Schultz. I haven't heard him bad mouth her the way she did with him.

I admire her for refusing to apologize, I'd bet Mark Green being the Hillary shill he is was looking for an excuse to get rid of her. And lately I thought she may have been on a bit of a path of self-destruction herself with AAR.

I hope AAR wises up and gives Sam Seder her slot. Since I listen on the net I'll probably decide daily whether to listen to Randi (though you can bet I'll be there first day she's on the air) or listening to AAR if they have a good host or listening to Schultz on delay. At least unlike before AAR I have some choices!

I hope Randi is happier with the new gig and can leave AAR behind.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:05 PM
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1. They can't afford Chris Rock
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:12 PM
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10. Personally, I'd love to hear him do a political commentary type radio show.
Maybe especially since he isn't beholden to either side of the political spectrum. As he himself once said, "When it comes to crime, I'm conservative. When it comes to prostitution, I'm liberal." :evilgrin:
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:29 PM
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24. Just having the Chris Rock show back on HBO would do the trick....
He's a very very smart guy.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:13 PM
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81. I still tell the line that Chris rock used on
Bill Maher - and every time I tell it - people still bust a gut laughing - paraphrasing:

Bill Maher - Do you think America is really ready for a black president?

Chris Rock - why not? We've already tried the retarded guy.
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:12 PM
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11. Personally, I'd love to hear him do a political commentary type radio show.
Maybe especially since he isn't beholden to either side of the political spectrum. As he himself once said, "When it comes to crime, I'm conservative. When it comes to prostitution, I'm liberal." :evilgrin:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:06 PM
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2. I find that whole angry political format tiresome anyway....
I don't listen to it, right or left. Ugh.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:10 PM
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7. Truth.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:28 PM
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108. Seconded
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:58 PM
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40. Have you had a chance to listen to Thom Hartmann or Stephanie Miller?
I wouldn't classify either of their shows as angry - Stephanie's is humorous, and Thom's is highly informational without being stuffy or boring. He legitimately debates the issues with conservatives on a regular basis without it turning into a "Crossfire"-style shoutfest...just a suggestion.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:04 PM
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44. thanks-- no I haven't....
I've listened to Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes and, um-- who's that other guy, can't remember his name now, and some of the right wing talkers who've been polishing their schtick ever since Clinton was in office, e.g. Limbaugh, Savage, and that crowd. But never more than once or twice-- as I said, I dislike the general format intensely. Mostly I've listened to them on rare occasions when AM radio was all I could get on the road or when someone recommends them (all of the liberal talkers I've tried were recommended here on DU).
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:21 PM
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66. I'm going to take a wild guess and say
You don't listen to AAR.

It's not angry, at all. Name me one host that flys off the handle. One.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:03 PM
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76. lol-- no I don't....
I can't name anyone who flies off the handle on AAR because I don't listen to them. Oh, I remembered the name of the guy I couldn't remember up thread-- Ed Shultz (completely OT in this response, I know).

Anyway, it really isn't about "flying off the handle." Rather, it's just the constant, unremitting confrontational style, or the constant complaining about others, or something. Like I said, that format just grates on my nerves, no matter what the political leaning of the host or whether they're polite to their callers.

On the other hand, I LOVE Democracy Now and could listen to Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales all day long. It's hard to identify what the difference is between, say, Amy Goodman's perspective and Randi Rhodes' perspective, or Mike Malloy's, but their shows have completely different characters, at least for me.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:06 PM
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3. And I still have a problem with the Creeping fascism that this
has shown

And who's next? hartmann, perhaps Bobby?

Oh never mind...
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:24 PM
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20. When they outed Mike Malloy, it all became very clear
"SHAME ON YOU, AAR!"

It was only a matter of time before before Randi would find the company intolerable.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:27 PM
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22. Others will be pushed as well, mark my words
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:30 PM
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25. They should all go to NOVA M....would'nt that be a hoot?
I'd get the biggest kick out of that!

IN YOUR FACE AAR!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:34 PM
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28. Radio is a business... and the Greens are not making a wise
decision... of course I am not privy to their books...

But I know that when time comes to renew my sub... it will be Nova M, NOT AAR.

But on a more general term what worries me to death are so-called progressives asking folks to fire folks since they don't share their
political views. It is amazing to me, and scary.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #28
102. That I agree with totally!
And that the corporate suits silenced another voice. Fucking bastards.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:08 PM
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4. I think she wanted out and found a way.
She is a long-time professional; she knows how to represent her station (unless she was drunk or hungover - the rant did remind me a little of Michael Richards').
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:23 PM
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101. AAR wanted Randi out & found a way.
The new owners didn't like the old contract they were forced to assume.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:09 PM
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5. Randi has talent, but a serious achilles heal in her ego...
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 02:10 PM by hlthe2b
Sometimes I loved her, but frequently I found myself depressed hearing her or even repulsed. I don't doubt that some of her colleagues at AAR are not sorry to see her go as she could be quite disparaging towards those she perceived to be "less worthy" than herself.

That being said, she does have considerable talent that I hope finds a better fit at NovaM or elsewhere. And I agree with the OP... Sam Seder should get her slot. If so, I will be there to listen... Otherwise, like many here, there are increasingly less reasons for me to support AAR (or XM for that matter).
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:11 PM
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8. Amazing how many radio hosts have addiction problems
Maybe it's part of the personality, at least in that generation.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:28 PM
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:36 PM
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31. It's just a comment I don't know if she is or isn't
It's just a feeling. I don't think that incident where she fell, was pushed, was mugged and lost her teeth was ever really explained. But then it's none of our business, it's between Randi and her employer.

But she liked her beer and booze even according to her. If its a problem for her or an addiction, I haven't a clue.

I'm not censoring myself on DU to please you!
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:44 PM
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109. If you're so innocent, why bring it up?
"If its a problem for her or an addiction, I haven't a clue."

????? Do you normally tarnish people's image with this sort of accusation, then tip-toe away with, "I haven't a clue." ????
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:09 PM
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6. She's a nasty ol drunk to say the least. Good riddance to that embarrassment
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:12 PM
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:13 PM
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12. A nasty drunk?
I spent seven days with her on a cruise. Yes, we all drank. We were on vacation. The most I saw her drink was a couple of beers in the afternoon on one of the decks where smoking was permitted and a glass of wine at dinner. Her table was next to mine. She was never drunk, nasty or showing any signs of inebriation, and I know the signs because I'm a former bartender.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:15 PM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:10 PM
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78. What makes you think she is a drunk?
Or are you just throwing that out to slander her?

She also isn't going anywhere since she was hired by NovaM today.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:09 PM
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100. so, tell us about yourself. sounds like you're projecting something
personal. of course, I could be wrong.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:15 PM
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13. speaking of apologizing, has Hillary apologized for the IWR vote yet?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:12 PM
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80. Nope - And That's Why
I'm voting for OBAMA!!!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:15 PM
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14. Obscene? Since when does someone automatically know what "obscenity" is?
I thought that had to be deduced by a jury of one's peers.

We're penalizing people for obscenity now .... oooookay.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:59 AM
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105. She quit, remember? Define "penalizing", in this case.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:00 PM by WinkyDink
As for your "jury" comment: She is free to sue, but for what?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM
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106. She was suspended -- that was the penalty in the first place
It's what led to her decision to quit.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:15 PM
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16. Soon this primary season will be OVER ... and I hope people will realize
what a mistake this was for Air America.

Randi Rhodes was speaking out for ALL OF US before there WAS an Air America ...
I can't believe how callous some people here have become, how quick they are
to turn ...

Randi is not flip-flopper ... She is who she is and I admire her standing up
for her beliefs. I only hope she lands somewhere (Nova M?) where I can catch
he show because frankly my life will be the less informed and entertained
without her.

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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:23 PM
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19. Where ever she lands, we'll find her.
No worries.

The world is her oyster. :D
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:39 PM
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33. her filthy potty mouth most certainly was not speaking for me
i'm glad she has chosen to take that part of herself somewhere else.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:11 PM
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47. so you supported the Bush admin and Iraq war all these years?
You like torture, politicization of the Justice Dept, Gitmo, the Iraq war, coming fascism, stealing elections????

Are you on the right website?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
57. Thank you and I salute you, LSparkle!
:patriot:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 PM
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17. We need every Progressive voice on the air in this GE year.
I hope Randi gets a new on air job soon. I look forward to hearing her again.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:18 PM
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18. I'm not a huge Randi fan.....but I respect the hell out of her for this.
I don't like the "F**king Whore" remark, but I respect the hell out of any liberal who doesn't immediately start apologizing and equivocating, as is our habit. Unlike Hillary, Randi is no weathervane.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #18
79. Yeah, Don't Take Responsibility
for your actions! I swear we are not a civilized society. Rude and crude is the rule of thumb here in America. Beat the shit out of a teenager and post it on You Tube. I find it odd that you don't like the remark, but condone her stubbornness. We teach our kids not to behave like this and if they do, they must take responsibility and apologize, or something. Yet as adults we are hailed by this kind of behavior. Unless the person is a disgusting right-winger like Bill O'Really and then you're pinned "worst person in the world". Notice Randi hasn't been pinned WPITW yet? Media Matters is stunningly silent about the Rhodes incident.

You know what's hypocritical about this whole reckless Randi shit? She called Geraldine Ferraro a big fucking whore too, Geraldine who wouldn't back down or apologize for her remarks.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:25 PM
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21. I gues no one would mind
If I called her a "foul mouthed B*tch"
since it's ok to use the lowest language about Sen Clinton, or is that not ok?
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:31 PM
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26. Air AmericUH is now officially a joke. n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:32 PM
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27. I still don't understand how Randi could pick O over H. They are both the same & I don't buy her
"truth to power" shtick anymore.

That being said, I think what was done to her was ominous. :yoiks:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Well, we gotta pick somebody...
I've gone through two already.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. She knows some of the dirty laundry
and she started airing some of it after the Bosnia fiasco

That is why... on both counts

Why she chose O over H, even if there is no light between them policy wise.

By the way given what we have seen over the last two weeks... folks are starting to scare me.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:41 PM
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34. Can you elaborate?
What do you mean the last 2 weeks?

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:54 PM
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36. After the bosnia story broke out
she started covering some of the real dirty laundry in the campaign. She actually covered the Mark Penn Story before the Mark Penn Story (re Colombia) was national news

And that is one example

She also covered how the Hillary Clinton Operation is quite revengeful...

That was some of the dirty laundry she covered
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:09 PM
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45. So Randi is being silenced for more than the whore comment.
Well, I'm not surprised.

Like I've said before, they-the powers that be-have silenced a lot of people. Among them The Dixie Chicks, Rosie O'Donnell, John Edwards and now Randi.


Which just proves to me once again that it's over. Stick a fork in this country, it's done.



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:14 PM
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49. That's my sentiment as well
and those joyful over it on THIS SIDE sicken me since they are applauding that
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:37 PM
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50. Freepers perhaps? Again, I wouldn't be surprised. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:04 PM
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56. No, fascism in all its creeping forms has spread from the Ultra RW to the RW
and some of the folks who are in the democratic party are authoritarian in nature and believe in controlling info for our sakes.

Leo Strauss didn't get students just on that side!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM
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63. Well, I call those people DINOs or freepers.
I think that DU has been overrun with them in recent months. :yoiks:

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #63
89. Unfortunately they are not all dinos or freepers
though the silly season brings many more of the latter...

But in reality the Democratic party in any other nation of the world would be split into at least three major parties... It is a forced coalition due to how the system works.

For the record, the same goes for the GOP... they are also a forced coalition

And that will NOT change until after the civil war and a new Constitutional Convention. (Assuming the country survives that, which I don't expect the country to survive)
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:16 PM
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94. More likely DLC than freepers
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #45
53. It's been done for quite a long time now, but the "powers that be" are getting so obvious
that it's just becoming apparent.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:21 PM
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65. To us yes. But does the average person see it? That's the question. nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #65
83. Most are Clueless. There are those who are totally dumbed down who bought into the constant
propaganda that we are the greatest country on this planet and can do no wrong. There are those who just don't care. Then you have the ones who should know better, but are dancing as fast as they can to keep their personal lives together. You also have those who should know better but really don't want to see what's happening around them. The truth too painful so they reside in the land of DeNile. There are many DUers who fall into that group.

kpete, octafish, seemslikeadream and several other awake members provide articles and links to the Truth, and so often they are just shot down. Even then, once some of us know the Truth, we are so overwhelmed with the enormity of it, we feel helpless as to what can be done. Especially, when some of those people, myself included, are dancing as fast as we can to keep our own lives together.

:banghead:


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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:00 PM
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54. Randi said that she only took sides after it became mathematically impossible for Hillary to win.
**cue the rants from mathematically illiterate Hillbots**

She also pointed out, correctly, that all Hillary and her surrogates, such as Geraldine FerrKKKaro can do now, is harm the eventual nominee (that would be OBAMA, for those of you who can't use a calculator) and help Grandpa McLoony.

And her OFF THE AIR comments about Hillary and FerrKKKaro were made in that same context.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:39 PM
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32. I think Randi was out of line.
Even though she wasn't on the air.

Since when is calling two prominent female politicians "fucking whores" funny?

I find absolutely nothing humorous about it. I think it's juvenile name calling.

Now if she was calling a Republican names, that would be fair game in politics, given that Republicans will tell any lie about any Democrat that they can get away with.

She never heard of "right speech" obviously.

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Chadwick3673 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Randi seems to just want to cause
a stir. I really have a hard time taking her seriously anymore. Its like she is saying shocking stuff, well, just to be shocking. Randi once said she was the only real radio person on AAR, now, with this latest tirade, I actually believe her. Its all about entertainment for her.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:51 PM
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71. That's why there's a dial knob on your radio.
However, for those of us who want to listen to her, it's not up to you guys to claim she shouldn't be on the air. Rush Limbaugh is still on the air and I don't listen to him. If you don't like Randi, don't listen to her. There is a local radio host here that they replaced Rachel Maddow with who follows Randi's slot. He's an Ed Schultz wannabe and not very well informed. I turn him off when he comes on and I stream Rachel. It's easy really.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:52 PM
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35. And when was the last time you called any politician a "fucking whore" regardless of sex?
I know I use it often.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:55 PM
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38. Now we should not temp faith any longer...
Why am I reminded of ... George Carlin?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. lol!!!!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:56 PM
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39. For the record, Ed Shultz started that "feud" with Randi
When AAR first started up Ed had some nasty things to say about them and about Randi.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:01 PM
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42. I can admire someone who stands up for their words
obscene, offensive or not, and is willing to pay the consequences.

I'm not a fan of hers, nor am I a fan of the talk radio genre in general, but I'm tired of wimpy people who back down right away. As much as I disliked what Carville said about Richardson, he said something, it was calculated, sure, but he also stood by it, and it went away.

Don't forget in the general election the republicans will be demanding apologies daily from someone, quit backing down.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #42
91. Here''s The Irony
she called Geraldine Ferraro a big fucking whore - Geraldine who wouldn't back down from her remarks about Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton who won't apologize for her Iraq War vote. Do you admire these women too?
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That Guy 888 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:01 PM
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43. I think letting Randi go was yet another Green mistake, but I see 2 things different from the OP
"...I've always thought that Randi was never a good fit at AAR and that she was not very happy there. As a talk show host I think there are times she is very, very, good and at times I've found her mediocre. She needs to get over jealousy over other hosts ala when Franken was on and this bad mouthing of Ed Schultz. I haven't heard him bad mouth her the way she did with him."


From what I remember of the Franken days, her complaint was that he was the only host getting off air promotion. That seemed to be the case around the country. To this day Air America's off air promotion is fairly non-existent.

As far as Schultz goes, I still remember being stuck in my car for about 45 minutes while he was on a screaming tirade (that apparently lasted over an hour) about how "Air America sucked!" This was when a couple of callers asked Sam Seder why Air America had "Big Eddie" on their X/M channel instead of Thom Hartmann. Sam replied that that decision was due to X/M and if they wanted Hartmann on instead they would have to contact X/M and tell them to carry "the full Air America line-up" (Schultz is part of the Jones Radio network not Air America). Sitting and listening to that asshat bitch-out Air America while being broadcast on the then Austin Air America affiliate was fucking annoying. Who did Schultz think carried his program?

IMO Green was looking for a way to get rid of an employee who had much more knowledge than him. I feel he is one of those people who are threatened by those who are more intelligent then him and don't kiss his ass or pretend to.

As far as who gets the slot... hmm I think either one of the Greens or some compliant toady who owes the Greens for their radio career. The current management isn't smart enough to hire someone better or promote from within.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #43
60. Welcome to DU and I pretty much agree with you
Perhaps the Greens will make AAR profitable and to their liking but it won't be progressive radio. Time to start over.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM
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64. I wasn't listening to Schultz when he did a rant
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 04:19 PM by RamboLiberal
But today and the day Randi had her accident he was decent about her. I can't say the same for Randi. Lately I'd been turning her off more often than listening to her. I thought except for a few occasions she was going downhill at AAR for last few months. And from a lot of the posts here I wasn't alone.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:11 PM
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46. "Like Hillary on Bosnia."??????
"Many people screw up and then apologize and move on."

When did Hillary apologize for Bosnia?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. Clinton NEVER apologized for her Tuzla lie...
Clinton NEVER apologized for her Iraq war vote.

Clinton NEVER apologized for employing Mark Penn, who openly worked AGAINST ideals she is SUPPOSEDLY for.

Clinton NEVER apologized for Kyl-Lieberman, which is a stepping stone to war with Iran.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:11 PM
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48. I respect her for her decision.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Me too. AAR is something different from what it was at its inception.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:01 PM
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55. Randi did the right thing, and Air America shot themselves in the foot (perhaps fatally)
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #55
95. Nah, There's Better
so called comedians out there looking for work who would love a gig like Rhodes had. The article said the staff was happy to see her go - I believe the staff!

If anyone shot themselves in the foot, that would be Randi Rhodes who will have gone from a audience of many to an audience of the few.

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BellaLuna Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:13 PM
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58. If Sean Hannity had said this about Clinton and Ferraro
or anyone he disagrees with on the left side, this place would want his testicles on a platter - including loss of his job.

You know it.

Randi says this and she's a hero?


This place confuses me.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. You've got that right.
It's called selective 'freedom of speech'. Applies only to those you agree with.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #61
68. Indeed - how many applauded newspapers dropping Ann Coulter's column?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #68
97. Well I sure did. I hope Coulter becomes forever ignored
I don't know what the defense for Randi Rhodes calling Hillary Clinton a 'whore' can possibly be. The fact that she said it off air, on her 'own' time? I've seen people use that excuse here. Or that she was 'joking'. Maybe it was irony or something - I didn't see her act.

If Coulter called Clinton a 'whore' in a stand up act, we'd all, rightly, be calling for her head.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:34 PM
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99. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Randi sells her political speech as a product.
I'm fine with that - but if you make your living selling your political speech you also assume the risk of losing that living based on your political speech.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #58
62. I wouldn't... sorry to bust your stereotype
especially if like now it was said OFF THE AIR!

Then again I don't think corporations have a right to control speech... if you do then you have a point

Then again do remind me, when exactly was Rush suspended for calling a 12 year old a dog?

Oh wait, we're still waiting

And EIB... didn't they fire him? Oh wait... nope

Did I mention that comment was made ON THE AIR, and in possible violation of FCC Rules?

So this double standard is astounding to me
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:13 PM
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59. If that comment is how she really feels than it wouldn't be right to apologize.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:28 PM
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67. Good. Randi and AAR both acted within their rights.
NOt every situation demands that one party be in the wrong.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:30 PM
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69. Thank you Randi
for speaking the truth and not backing down. Fuck AA(R).
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
88. I pay AAR
$10 a month, mainly to listen to her on my ipod while I'm jogging. Now that this is final I'll be canceling my subscription. Hopefully AAR won't keeping billing me a la Clinton campaign.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:44 PM
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70. I guess I need to listen to what Randi said
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 04:44 PM by bigwillq
I haven't yet.

If she called Clinton "a fucking whore" then Randi needs to apologize. I don't see much difference in what Randi said (if that's what she said) and what Imus or Michael Richards or that dude from Gray's Anatomy said.

People should not be on the air or tv if they're just going to call people names.

Calling people names is just not professional and just not intelligent. I really like Randi, still do, but why resort to name calling when you're supposed to be a professional radio host? :shrug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:52 PM
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72. She's going to be on Larry King tonight.
It will be the first time we will hear her side of the story.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #72
74. I'm at work until 11 p.m.
Maybe I'll catch the repeat or go on-line tomorrow from home. We don't have audio on these computers at work.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. I went to his website and it seems the show does put
up transripts after the show has aired, maybe tomorrow.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:16 PM
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82. I will have to check it out then (nt)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:57 PM
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73. I no longer have a reason to listen to Air America.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:00 PM
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75. Thank you Randi for not selling out like a F'ing Whore
You chose honor over selling out. Unlike Ferraro and Clinton.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:20 PM
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84. Ditto!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #75
85. HEAR HEAR
Ain't no 'hos here.

:rofl:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #75
93. .
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #75
103. Whoa - Ferraro Refused to Apologize
and wouldn't back down regarding her remarks about Obama - Hillary still refuses to apologize for IWR vote. Shouldn't Randi be supporting these women?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:28 PM
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86. Randi, Professional Bridge Burner
Boy I bet they are happy to have her gone. What a bombastic force to have to deal with on a daily basis. Bye, Randi, don't come back here no mo! Working in radio is really stressful, sometimes it's just not worth it to have such a difficult person around. Talent or no talent, there's so-called better comedian's out there and in need of a job.

I expect to hear her say she did it on purpose to fuck AAR. She will never admit she was wrong, just like Hillary won't admit she was wrong about Iraq, and Geraldine regarding Barack Obama being black remark.

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Xenocrates Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:29 PM
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87. Freedom from Apology
It seems anytime a public figure mispeaks, the media and everyonelse clamors for an apology.

I would hope that this is one of the real turning points in our culture. You don't like what someone said? That's tough. Sticks and Stones. Libel and Slander are one thing, but voicing your opinion in the public square is really what its all about, and Randi gets a big thumbs up for standing by her words.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:57 PM
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90. Randi "was never a good fit"?
Randi was on Air America from DAY ONE of the network.

If she wasn't a good fit, then Air America changed, not Randi.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:10 PM
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92. If we're willing to condemn jerks like rush, then it should be no different with Randi....
I remember rush limbaugh's crap about the Clintons. It was disgusting.

This is no different, IMO. It's one thing to nail a politician for bad policy, but quite another when a person lowers themselves to Rush's standards. That's what Randi did. She disgraced herself.

If she can't be mature enough to apologize for making such a derogatory remark she needs to get off the air until she grows up.

Regardless of anyone's politics, this name-calling was wrong.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:34 PM
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96. Right on, Randi!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:27 PM
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98. I saw the film, multiple times.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 07:29 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
It definitely was a stand-up routine, and the atmosphere was as bombastic as the performance. For that reason alone, the use of profanity was appropriate as profanity is a staple of modern stand-up. The reference to "whore" in both cases was then qualified as political whore-dom during the performance with examples given ("I bet she'll go Joe Leiberman on us"). So considering the reference was appropriate (because both Clinton and Ferraro have acted shamelessly during this primary, in my estimation) and the venue was appropriate (not on the air, stand-up routine), I would say that Randi did not act in any way that I can see as improper.

There was no need to apologize for what she said. Washington is full of "big fucking whores", some of which happen to be Democrats. Leiberman is the quintessential example. A lesser-known example would be Rockefeller or Salazar.

By the way, there are a ton of leftie talk show personalities that are or were stand-up comics. Al Franken and Stephanie Miller are two examples I can think of.

Green960 also fully-outlined the circumstances of the performance in defense of Randi, supporting the notion that the performance was a stand-up routine and that she played to her audience, who loved it. I find the hair-splitting by AAR to justify taking her off of the air to be under-handed and indicative that AAR has long gone over to the dark side. I find the fact that this whole episode was started by a staunch Hillary supporter who wasn't present for the performance to be sinister and reminiscent of McCarthyism. Sand-bagging someone's livelihood for political revenge is not cool.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:57 AM
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104. Fine. Both entities keep their self-defined integrity. RR now understands what it means to be a
company rep and has decided she doesn't care for it.

The company kept its job-employment rules intact.

Complainers about either have no grounds.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:22 PM
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107. Not even close to Randi's story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WdEBBx0Tg

AAR: "We're not in the apology business."
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