Ron Paul speaking "truth to power"

[SHRED]

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Ron Paul is right on target with this.
Credit where credit is due.

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Congressman Ron Paul Gets Heated With The Emerging Surveillance Bill
Published 04/07/2008 - 11:32 a.m. GMT

(PressMediaWire) April 07, 2008 Congressman Ron Paul's statement on the emerging surveillance bill -

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We have been told that this power to listen in on communications is legal and only targets terrorists. But if what these companies are being compelled to do is legal, why is it necessary to grant them immunity? If what they did in the past was legal and proper, why is it necessary to grant them retroactive immunity?

In communist East Germany , one in every 100 citizens was an informer for the dreaded secret police, the Stasi. They either volunteered or were compelled by their government to spy on their customers, their neighbors, their families, and their friends. When we think of the evil of totalitarianism, such networks of state spies are usually what comes to mind. Yet, with modern technology, what once took tens of thousands of informants can now be achieved by a few companies being coerced by the government to allow it to listen in to our communications. This surveillance is un-American.

We should remember that former New York governor Eliot Spitzer was brought down by a provision of the PATRIOT Act that required enhanced bank monitoring of certain types of financial transactions. Yet we were told that the PATRIOT Act was needed to catch terrorists, not philanderers. The extraordinary power the government has granted itself to look into our private lives can be used for many purposes unrelated to fighting terrorism. We can even see how expanded federal government surveillance power might be used to do away with political rivals.

The Fourth Amendment to our Constitution requires the government to have a warrant when it wishes to look into the private affairs of individuals. If we are to remain a free society we must defend our rights against any governmental attempt to undermine or bypass the Constitution.

SOURCE: House.gov/Paul

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[musette_sf]

1. screw Ron Paul

who cares not a whit for the privacy of women. just another sexist pig hiding behind a fake "freedom" banner.

:puke:

[eridani]

20. A stopped clock is right twice a day

He's right about the war and the PATRIOT Act, and not much else.

[SHRED]

2. The erosion continues

Warrant less wiretaps can, are, and will be used for political gain.
When will we wake up and understand that they destroy the very essence of Freedom and Democracy?

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[ColbertWatcher]

3. Ron Paul!? Hahahahahaha! n/t

[cynatnite]

4. Just have to say...I LOVE THAT PIC!

:thumbsup:

[Ilsa]

5. Too bad few in Congress or the public is listening to him. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Too bad his supporters are insane

Ron Paul is right (meaning correct) on a lot of issues.

[ColbertWatcher]

7. Too bad Ron Paul is so wrong for America...

...and not just because he is racist.

Poor guy, he has no idea what a failure he really is

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. LOL!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. He is right on the mark when it comes to a few issues. Unfortunately, where he is wrong, he

is IMHO very, very, wrong.

Where he is correct.
He was against and is still against the war.
He gave a floor speech warning the House about the neocons.
He is against spying on our citizens.
He wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank.
He is against NAFTA.

Where he is very wrong.
He wants to give control of abortion law to the states.
He is against public funding of schools, head start, college assistance, medicare, medicaid.
He is against social security.
He is for unfettered gun control.
There are more but have to go and do something!

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. There's that IRS thing too

:rofl:

[PeaceNikki]

12. I'll pick up where you left off. He's also very wrong on:

Immigration
Gay Rights
Church-State Separation
International Relations
Worker rights
Campaign finance reform
Universal health care
and Privatizing everything

[PeaceNikki]

9. Ron Paul hates you.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787

"But he's against the war!" Yes, he is. So is Pat Buchanan. So is David Duke. If either of them were on the stage in New Hampshire today, full of sweet words about the war, would you be as quick to praise their "independence," to gush about how well of course I wouldn't vote for him myself but he sure is awesome anyway? Do you truly require nothing from a political candidate other than that he oppose the war?

[AnnieBW]

13. A broken clock

is right twice a day. So it is with Ron Paul.

[Fireweed247]

14. Ron Paul is right on many things

like defending our Constitution and calling the phony war on terror for what it is.

One thing about his supporters, people here like to call them names, but they are organized. They aren't waiting around for Ron Paul, they are working to take back the Republican party from the corrupt bastards. They are running for Congress and supporting each other.

We have the same corrupt bastards in our party and we need to work to take back the Democratic Party.
www.peacecandidates.com

[PeaceNikki]

17. He's a racist and squashes gay and women's rights. He's a pig.

Filth.

[slipslidingaway]

25. You may find some of these comments interesting...

http://www.gay.com/news/discuss.html?discussion_id=183297&discuss_uri=%2Fnews%2Fdiscuss.html&discuss_id=183297&coll=news_feature&sernum=5714&navpath=channels%2Fnews%2Fdiscussions&ruri=%2Fnews%2Froundups%2Fpackage.html&title=false&page=1


Also I doubt Kucinich would call him a man of integrity if he really is as you describe.

:shrug:

[Chulanowa]

18. Ron Paul is no more pro-constitution than any NeoCon is

He does not want to "Defend" it - he wants to alter it into a free market manifesto. He's a turd that won't flush. Fuck Ron Paul.

[Sonexdd]

26. LOL

He does not want to "Defend" it - he wants to alter it into a free market manifesto. He's a turd that won't flush. Fuck Ron Paul.


That is the best line ever written on Ron Paul, thanks for making me laugh!

[LWolf]

15. He is correct on this issue.

How many Democrats are?

[slipslidingaway]

16. Agree and too many Dems voted for immunity...

:(

Ron Paul Lectures Bernanke: U.S. Moving Towards Fascism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbi-0Tg1b_g

[slipslidingaway]

19. 19 Democratic Senators that voted for immunity...

Related Bill: S. 2248: FISA Amendments Act of 2007
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2008-20

Related Amendment: S.Amdt. 3907:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2008-15

[tuckessee]

21. Where are the Dems on this issue?

Hillary?

Barak?

I can't hear you because of all the darn crickets.

[PeaceNikki]

22. And where is Ron Paul on women and gay rights? And immigration?

And Church-State Separation?
And International Relations?
And Worker rights?
And Campaign finance reform?
And Universal health care?
And Privatizing everything???


Hmmmmmmmmm?? HMMMMMMMMMM!?!?

[tuckessee]

23. I guess you can't answer my question.

So instead you attack the messenger.

It's not really necessary to do that here since one can assume we are all voting Dem anyway. After all, it is Democraticunderground.com.

Ron Paul would get no notice if he weren't the only one raising issues about illegal wars, illegal surveillance, illegal search & seizure, asset forfeiture, the looming police state and loss of privacy, etc.

[PeaceNikki]

24. Are YOU Ron Paul?

Cuz that's who I was "attacking".

[tuckessee]

27. Ron Paul is the messenger.

The issue is illegal surveillance.

Don't worry about the messenger. Forget about Ron Paul. He's irrelevant here at DU plus we've heard all the standard anti-RP stuff before.

Instead, tell me why the big Dems are silent on such issues as the Patriot Act.