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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:32 AM
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Why is Al Sharpton So Pissed Off At Reverend Wright?
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 08:06 AM by formerfed
Because Reverend Wright has stolen Sharptons social standing for being the biggest racist rebel rouser in America…

Even Sharpton can be seen saying “dam… that’s a bit much for even me to say.”

The only thing that can possibly be achieved by any community (such as Florida) inviting Wright, this so-called hypocrisy of a “reverend” to speak in any church or social gathering is to turn the clock back on the positive changes America has made in the civil rights for ALL CITIZENS of this country.

Maybe Wright is the Anti-Christ! Screw the first amendment when it comes to racists like this, especially one hiding behind the pulpit.

Everyone has the right to his or her opinion, and this is mine…………
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:34 AM
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1. 'screw the first amendment' are you sure? adios
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:37 AM
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2. Like I said
Everyone has a right to his or her opinion.... You can "adios" if you want, that also would be violating the first amendment.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:37 AM
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3. Because he's not in the spotlight?
The Rev loves the self-promotion.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:38 AM
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4. First amendment lets him speak, but no one has to listen to him...
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:40 AM
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5. Hard Not To Listen When Its The Only Song Being Played
Hard Not To Listen When Its The Only Song Being Played on every media outlet in the country.

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:28 AM
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17. There is your problem right there
You are paying attention to the mainstream media.
You know,the same media owned and operated by the same corporate criminals who are fucking the world over.

Wake up and smell the grits.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:34 AM
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20. "...paying attention to the mainstream media."
And this would surprise us because...???

(BTW -- I am agreeing with your post)
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:38 AM
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21. Ya Know You May Be Right
Ya Know You May Be Right

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Anexio Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:50 AM
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6. Links please...
By "positive changes America has made in the civil rights for ALL CITIZENS", are you referring to the abolishment of Affirmative Action? Maybe you're talking about how our Federal Government segregates white from blacks in public housing? I don't know, I cant read your mind.



....and, are you calling Reverend Al Sharpton the Anti-Christ?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:28 AM
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36. Sharpton's remarks to Tucker...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ei_c49XsRk

What do we have here? Another ripe opportunity for DUers to spew racist bile? Quite sad, really...
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Anexio Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:15 PM
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40. Thanks...
Karenina, Thanks for sending that over, I was hoping to hear from the OP but I'll take whatever attention I can get!

I'm a bit new here so I guess I'm not cool with inflammatory comments like the OP's accusation that The Reverend Al is the Anti-Christ.

I guess I see Gary Coleman in that role before I'd see Al Sharpton.

Thanks again,
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:50 AM
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7. I'm curious... tell me more...
What did Sharpton say in regard to Wright?

I thought Sharpton was supportive of Obama's speech.

Maybe Barack told Sharpton he wouldn't consider him as
a running mate!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:56 AM
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8. "Everyone has the right to his or her opinion,"
except for Reverend Wright, right? You are an idiot. I do not support either Democratic candidate, but Wright is a good man with valid opinions and Lilliputians like you can suck soap...
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:03 AM
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9. Your Opinion Is Noted....
Wright has his opinions and thoughts too. Thats pretty evident. And listening to people like you, and Wright, does indeed make me feel like an idiot.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:13 AM
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11. I am surprised you don't feel like an idiot all the time...
:rofl:
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:20 AM
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13. Just On Days That End In "Y" - And Reading Comments Like Yours
Just On Days That End In "Y" - And Reading Comments Like Yours
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:23 AM
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15. Oh burn, man! You got me good! I am contrite...
B-)
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:30 AM
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19. But I have to admit
But I have to admit,,, I seriously like your comment from Che.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:52 AM
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24. Look, let me say this.
Wright is a preacher and as such he is subject to dramatic turns of phrase and passionate, emotive language. The actual opinions he expressed, however, when stripped of the "juiced-up" verbiage, is really quite on the mark. Now, granted, he has no proof that the US government developed HIV as some kind of weapon or used it intentionally on non-whites and gays, but the US does have a history of ugly medical experimentation on blacks and poor whites and unwitting citizens. After all, we KNOW our government is CAPABLE of criminal activity, don't we? And most of the other sins and crimes the Reverend laid at the feet of white America is verifiable fact.

Reverend Wright has every right to express any opinions and positions he wishes. He does not have to get "clearance" from anyone to say anything (at least, not yet). You and anyone else may disagree with what the Reverend says, but you cannot disagree with his right to say it. Now, how this affects Obama's campaign, I could care less. That is Obama's problem. I would suggest to the Senator that he be completely honest and let the chips fall where they may. But, that is his look out...

:hi:
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:13 AM
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26. I Understand
I do understand, and respect your position and beliefs. But, to me, Wright knows in his heart of hearts that he is grandstanding and that his statements (whether he believes them or not) are having a complete negative result on the positive things this country has managed to overcome. And, his comments are tearing down the momentum for even more positve changes for all minorities.

As for Obama, him saying he never heard that type of "sermon" is about as credible as Hillary and her latest fiasco of claiming to be under fire in Bosnia.

My problem with Obama and Wrights sermons are more to the fact he has let his children be subjected to the preachers "beliefs." Children are so impressionable, about like the former generations of kids growing up being taught to hate blacks, and blacks to hate whites.

And, just my opinion, to support Wright, and invite him to travel the country spewing his racism and de-nouncing the US is not acceptable to me.

But, it is just my opinion.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:00 AM
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32. If he were to be completely honest..........
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 10:00 AM by murbley40
he maybe should include explanations for the following from his book,"DREAMS OF MY FATHER.

"I ceased to advertise my Mother's race at age 12 or 13.when I began to suspect that by
doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

"I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my Mother's
race."

"The emotion between the races could never be pure.....the other race(speaking of the white
race) would always remain just that: Menacing, Alien, and Apart."

"Never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was my
Father's image, the Black man, the son of Africa, that I packed all the attributes I
sought in myself."

"That hate hadn't gone away", blaming the white race-"some cruel,some ignorant,sometimes a
singleface,sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."

"Refering to Blacks when he attended college, he also says "There were enough of us on
campus to constitute a tribe."

Does this, in addition to the statements by his wife connect to Wright's mentoring?


edited for spelling
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:12 AM
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33. Thank You
Thank you for writing this....
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:25 AM
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35. That may well be. I do not blame any non-white person for holding
the white man responsible for much (if not most) of the problems we face in the world today. If Obama has some resentment, it just means he has been paying attention. I know I have lots of resentment, including resentment for the current war against non-whites in Iraq! There is a great deal of what Reverend Wright says that is 100% true and must be addressed - it cannot be swept under the rug any longer. There have been some, modest improvement in the racism in this country, but there is much, much more to do. White people have got to start taking responsibility for what has been done and what is being done. I have very little sympathy for whites crying "reverse racism" in a country where they have a 70% majority...
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:37 AM
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38. Two Way Street
Its a two way street, whites might need to stand up more and accept responsibility for what did occur, and still occurs in some fashion.

But, blacks need to quit blaming just the whites!!! And there is reverse racism, and its being played everyday too.

I think we should also remember who got it the worst of any race in this country.

THE INDIANS
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:51 AM
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39. I am of mixed heritage - Cherokee and Choctaw. I know who got
what in this country. I also know that non-whites have almost no power in this country, period. To claim "reverse racism" you would need to point to some place where non-whites are powerful enough to do it. Are there non-white racists? Of course. Do they have any institutional power? Not enough to affect you (unless you go and live on a reservation for a while, then it would...) On an individual basis a person's racism may mark that person as someone whom you wish to avoid. To equate an individual's racism with the 500 years of institutional racism that has been the hallmark of this country is just (I'm sorry) ludicrous...
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Anexio Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:30 PM
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41. Thanks for the pity.
"Its a two way street, whites might need to stand up more and accept responsibility for what did occur, and still occurs in some fashion."

So if whites are responsible for whether or not I am poor or rich, sucessfull or a loser then I am by de facto reliant upon them and should do everything I can to ingratiate myself?

I guess both my parents who worked two jobs to help put me through Bowdoin Collage had nothing to do with my future! I should just shine whitey's shoes and fetch him something to eat in order to get ahead?

Pull you head out the 50's. I don't need your help, your sympathy or your pity. And you can take your reperations and buy your butler dinner at the country club.

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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:40 AM
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42. No Pity Here Pal
You do not get any pity here.... just observations....you yourself said you make your own way.

:applause:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:30 AM
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18. Not to move off topic.. but if you do not support either Dem.....
who, do you you support? :shrug: Did you mean to say you are uncommitted or that "you don't support either Democratic candidate?"
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:41 AM
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22. I mean, that at this point, I cannot support either candidate. This
whole primary season as been about nothing but names and faces.

Both candidates are strong corporate players.
Neither candidate will say that they will roll back the Patriot Act.
Neither candidate will say that they will strongly advocate for full equal rights for all citizens.
Neither candidate will say that they will dismantle the "Unitary Executive".
Both candidates talk about the "War on Terror" as thought it were a real thing.

The list goes on and on. I just do not support either of these candidates. I will admit that either one would be marginally better than McCain...
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:49 AM
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31. I'm not on anyone's bandwagon either
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:51 AM by October
What's to cheer?

I hate what this primary season has done to DU. <sigh>

And you're right - neither candidate is very progressive. I don't get the vitriolic hatred being spewed around here. I mean, it's not like these two candidates have voted very differently from one another.

I think both would be a hell of a lot better than McCain, though. He's a snake who parades around like a Dem when it's convenient (i.e., Daily Show) and a repub when it's advantageous (i.e., hugging Bush). I loathe the man.

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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:30 AM
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37. I agree that McCain is much, much more loathsome than either
Democrat. I don't get the ugliness around here, either. One thing is for sure, the Democrats around here sure don't sound like a better way forward for the country...

:hi:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:17 AM
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12. This OP is a steaming pile of racist flamebait.
nm
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:21 AM
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14. and another one bites the dust....
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:25 AM
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16. Do What Ya Gotta Do
Do What Ya Gotta Do........
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:49 AM
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23. Al Sharpton is not a racist rabble rouser; Al Sharpton is a destroyer of reputations
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 08:50 AM by theboss
Al Sharpton's problem is that as an activist he has destroyed lives.

Name anything that Wright has done that compares to a false accusation of rape.

(My position on Shaprton has been the same for years. I could care less what he says. It's what he does and has done that is the problem).
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:58 AM
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25. I Agree And Disagree
I do agree Sharpton has destroyed peoples lives and reputations. And is famous for making false accusations. Good point.

But, I also feel he is a racist and looks for any opportune time to jump on the band wagon and promote it.

Besides the rape case, I’m still waiting for him to apologize to the DUKE players who he tried to make into a racial incident on every media outlet possible.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:14 AM
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27. I dislike Sharpton for a number of reasons but don't think he is a racist
I just like he's an opportunist who will exploit racism. Subtle difference. But important.

In some ways, it makes him worse than a racist who is at least acting from some internal moral code.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:16 AM
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28. moron n/t
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:38 AM
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29. A Moron With An Opinion
The I guess that makes me a moron with an opinion.

Thanks

:wow:
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:46 AM
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30. "But, to me, Wright knows in his heart of hearts...."
I would wager that the OP didn't waste any of his time listening to the entire sermon of Rev Wright and based his opinion on the constant daily fractured, replay comments from one Sunday sermon. If Rev Wright is such a despicable, hateful individual, why haven't the MSM, detractors, etc., cite his hateful, racist bio? Surely, Rev Wright must have a long history of un-patriotic, racist, hatred?

The OP knows what is in Wright's "heart of hearts," but knows little of the real man! Amazing!
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:20 AM
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34. Bet I Did
I did listen, and in fact have researched some of his words from years back and here is what I found.

The same thing as he is saying now, but with the recent notoriety of being Obamas pastor, he has been thrown to the front-lines and his beliefs have to.

But, just my opinion and research.
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