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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:48 PM
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Burger joint's name, logo irks LGBT group
By Jillian Berman, Daily Staff Reporter



When the owners of Quickie Burger and Dogs chose their logo, they thought it would make patrons crave an order of chili cheese fries. But the logo, a busty woman in a tight shirt straddling a hamburger, has drawn criticism from campus groups.

The newest addition to the South State Street landscape has caused a stir on campus with its brightly colored logo, which some believe is offensive.

The restaurant, which opened two weeks ago, sits south of campus at the intersection of State and Hill streets. Adorning the blue awning above the restaurant next to its name is an image of a cowgirl riding a hamburger.

The Stonewall Democrats, a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender caucus of the University's College Democrats chapter, has taken offense with the restaurant's logo and recently began circulating a petition to sway the owners to change the logo.


Complete article at:
http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/03/21/CampusLife/Burger.Joints.Name.Logo.Irks.Lgbt.Group-3278238.shtml
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:51 PM
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1. wow...some people sure have a lot of nothing better to do time on their hands...
what exactly is offensive to the lgbt community about a cowgirl riding a hamburger?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:56 PM
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7. well, according to Kolly Roberts, of the Stonewall Democrats
(Kolly, is a He, by the way) "I have a problem that you take a women riding a hamburger and you put it next to the word 'quickie,' " he said. "It just seems like it's not putting a good message out there for the objectification of women."

really. come on.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:02 PM
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20. If this is the best cause they can find to spend their time on, they need to open their eyes.
There's a million better and more pressing things to deal with in the world than a stupid burger joint logo.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:17 PM
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98. And even to just concentrate on discrimination and harassment of
gays and lesbians.

Picking on such a trivial thing will make it harder for them to be taken seriously - they still are a minority - when they want to raise the more important issues.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:03 PM
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23. so now gay men are concerned about the objectification of women?
kolly might want to avoid the baton club in chicago.

is it supposed to be joan rivers riding the burger, or something...?
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:11 PM
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30. I'm a genderfuck and I'm totally fucking confused.
What is offensive?

Is she MTF? She looks great. What can't she have a quickie and some beer?

Is she a lesbian? She looks happy with her burger and beer... why can't she have a quickie?

Is it the hook up they are protesting? Can't a girl get some lovin', a good burger, and beer?

What the fuck is this country coming to when a girl can't get a good fuck, a good burger, and a good beer while wearing jeans and a comfy t-shirt?!?!?!

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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:13 PM
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31. We should be accepting of her burgersexual lifestyle
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:39 PM
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88. LOL! n/t
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:32 PM
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59. Why won't you return my calls?
.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:05 PM
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26. So... if it was "Long-term Relationship Burger" that would be OK?
I see, now a gay man has decided that women aren't allowed to enjoy quickies? Thank Jeebus that the logo doesn't show her displaying bare ankles, too!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:13 PM
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32. Rofl!
I think I've just found a new name for my business! :rofl:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:22 PM
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40. maybe Kolly self-identifies
with the Village People a little too much, and thinks the cowgirl thing is wrong? I dunno.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:13 PM
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96. Maybe Kolly has gyneophobia:
"Basically, what it has is a provocatively dressed woman straddling a hamburger, and she's very busty and its kind of really horrible," he said.

Horrible, horrible, I tells ya.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:27 PM
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111. ain't nothing more provocative than Jeans and a Checkered shirt
wowza! why, sometimes it is just too much for me, and I have to switch to the Victoria's Secret Catalog to calm down.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:26 PM
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41. wow
what would they have done if she was riding a chili cheese dog?
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:51 PM
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2. Gee. I guess protesting the deaths of 4,000 soldiers
just doesn't cut it.:dem:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:52 PM
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4. No kidding. nt
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:10 PM
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28. That was my thought as well. There are war crimes being committed as we speak.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:22 PM
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58. Indeed.
:puke:
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:51 PM
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3. some people
really need to find a hobby.
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:54 PM
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5. Why would it be a GLBT group protesting the logo?
I'm confused here...
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:41 PM
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75. Me too
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:09 PM
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94. They're Republicans?
:crazy: Who knows.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:54 PM
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6. We used to have a WHOPPER BURGER here
I wonder if that would offend them too? :)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:57 PM
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8. I find it mildly offensive
mildly because I've gotten numb to the use of women's bodies to sell everything, tits up and legs spread.
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:57 PM
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9. Maybe it's because
the dogs don't get equal billing.

Sheesh, if they don't like it, then don't eat there.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:57 PM
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10. Of all the things to get one's LGBT knickers in a twist about...THIS is what they come up with?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 03:58 PM by truebrit71
...wow...
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:57 PM
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11. THe sign is
kind of sexist but no more so than lots of ads. :shrug: Why this one would particulary offend the GLBT community I do not know.

I am a believer in picking one's battles. THere are far worse things out there to complain about IMHO.
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:57 PM
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12. I'm missing something...
Why is this a LGBT issue?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:49 PM
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80. I'm gay and I'm asking myself the same thing.
This one I simply don't grok at all. I'm trying to understand how their name or logo could possibly be considered homophobic in any sense of the term, and I'm coming up blank.

It's sexist, but not particularly so compared with so much other advertising. Are they objecting to the use of the word 'quickie'? If so, they apparently don't realize how being offended by use of the word "quickie" (which as far as I know has more than one meaning, including the sexual one) makes them look.

In any case, this makes absolutely no sense to me at all.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:58 PM
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13. Really...
This is pointless.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:59 PM
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14. This Is Outrageous!
It is truly outrageous that in 2008 -- and in a campus town, no less -- a business really thinks that it can get away with such an outrageously offensive sign and name.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:02 PM
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21. are u being sarcastic?
god, i hope so
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:03 PM
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22. I think you forgot the "sarcasm" smilie...
...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:59 PM
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15. I guess I don't see it targeting the GLBT community, unless its a euphemism I'm unaware of?
I agree its targeting sex, and perhaps its a bit sexist, but GLBT?

I don't get it. can someone help me out here?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:59 PM
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16. they should search for a presidential candidate who values full equality not scriptures nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:01 PM
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19. Que es la punta?
:wtf:

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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:14 PM
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97. Non sequitur
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:00 PM
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17. Welcome to the Nanny State
Everyone take something you find personally offensive and please make it your lifes work to tell others how to live.
:eyes:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:01 PM
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18. If I lived there I'd be buying a quickie Burger every day
That's the dumbest fuckin protest I've ever seen. I'm 66 years old and I've seen a hell of a lot of really dumb protests too.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:03 PM
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24. that was my reaction
if these people are protesting this business, i'm gonna go out of my WAY to give them my $$$.

assuming their burgers are tasty.

i mean, i DO have principles!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:04 PM
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25. It's shit like this that gives us leftys a bad name.
Over doing political correctness until it makes you wanna barf.

LGBT groups needs to focus on so much just to live like most of us do that anything like this is nothing but a huge distraction.



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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:19 PM
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72. Ok this is where I enter the conversation
what the hell do you mean "LGBT groups"? This is one group of University students, the youth vote that we are supposed to respect and encourage. Remember? One college handful, and you paint an entire community with their actions. Amazing.
Myself, I think they are insane, but clearly looking at it as a sexism issue, and you do realize that women are sometimes gay, right? And that college students drawn to political activism have a tendency to extreme points of view and all of that? Some environmentalists burn SUVs, does that mean we get to say "enviornmentalist groups need to stop with the violence and distruction. Sirera Club, this means you!" How small can a mind get before it shuts down?

The people making this into a distraction are the lovely folkken who somehow managed to let us all in on the actions of what is probably about 9 University students, at some school, in some town. 3 freshmen in a militant feminist phase probably got all worked up about the objectification stuff and here we are, having the Generality Club pronounce judgement on millions of Americans and dozens of social action groups because of it.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:07 PM
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27. Better they should oust the people who moved up the MI primary date
"Basically, what it has is a provocatively dressed woman straddling a hamburger, and she's very busty and its kind of really horrible," he said.

She's not straddling the burger--she has one knee up. Her clothes are tight, but hardly cause to cover your children's eyes. She's not busty at all, just low-necklined. This is what passes for porn in Michigan?

:shrug:
rocknation

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:11 PM
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29. I predict over 200 posts on this thread. n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:14 PM
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33. Well, it could have been worse. It could have been titled
"Quickie Dogs and Burgers", with change to the logo.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:15 PM
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34. Thank Jeebus they didn't open a "Pink Taco" franchise
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:17 PM
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35. Huh? I mean... that's... Whaaaaa?!?!
If it concerns the "objectification of women," where's the University's NOW chapter? Any other student feminist groups? Or maybe they're just not complete and utter morons with nothing else to worry about? Is this group saying that Michigan is a paradise of tolerance and acceptance of gays--that's why they need to look for other things to worry about?

This reminds me, in a way, of the atheist group at some university (hell, it might well have been Michigan!), that was trading bibles for porn, with the idea being that the Bible has more sex and violence than even the most hardcore porn, so they were actually handing out something less obscene. Of course, the only message heard was that "filthy atheists want your kids to have porn instead of bibles." As an atheist, that stunt pissed me the fuck off, because of how idiotic it was PR-wise.

Likewise, as a Democrat this pisses me off because (like the comment left by "Steve" on the website) Freepers will look at this legitimately stupid and idiotic whining, and they'll generalize it to "typical liberals," etc. This Kolby Roberts douche has some real issues: there's gay and then there's "the sight of the female form horrifies me, especially if 'she's very busty.'"
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:19 PM
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36. I would actually expect this from
Fundies, but not from this source. Sheesh, find a cause with some meat to it....oops, now I will get sued.:silly:
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:19 PM
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37. How many In-n-Out burgers will be sold in the western US this week?
Won't someone please think about the chidren?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:37 PM
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43. Oooooh, In N OUT!!! How ...... OFFENSIVE!!!!!!! nt
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:27 PM
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64. Very delicious burgers! I used to pull off the fwy 40 miles from home to treat my kids...
...to some In'N'Out burgers. Their dad, my ex, introduced me to what was probably the first location of its kind back when we were in college. The name may be a bit racy, but at least they don't have a logo of a girl with her blouse undone riding a bucking burger. :eyes:

Whatever -- unless there's some GLBT double entendre I don't know about, that logo just isn't anything to get in a lather about.

Hekate

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Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:20 PM
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38. But, but, but....
She's wearing what looks like a flannel shirt, which is obviously an attempt to portray lesbians as promiscuous. I'm offended.

oh yeah.


:sarcasm:

Really???
No, Really???????
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:20 PM
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39. UPDATE: A WOMAN chose the logo!
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 04:23 PM by skater314159
The person who owns Quickie Burger is a woman.

There is a lot of meaning in the Quickie Burger logo that needs to be considered. The term "quickie" suggestively refers, not to the quick pace in which you will receive your burger, but instead to a sexual act that is fast paced and short lived. The fact that the woman's legs are spread around the burger suggests that she is involved in some sexual act with the burger. This is the reason for the supposed humor that the owner described. And it is also very telling that they chose to use a woman and not a man. If a man was riding the burger, the logo would lose most of its innuendo and humor because the male body is not used as a sexual object. Male bodies are often sexualized, however, they are seldom used sexual objects (there is a distinct difference).

The owner of Quickie Burger is not to blame for her choice in advertising. She is also living within a society that deems it necessary and acceptable to perpetuate the stereotype of women being objects of sexual desire. However, once she is made aware of the offense in her logo, it is her responsibility to make a choice to correct it. Don't think for a moment that women can't act in ways that are oppressive to women. Many people wrote above that they felt the complaint made by the Stonewall Democrats was petty and useless. I think the point here is not that the Stonewall Democrats should "toughen up" but instead that the rest of us should be more sensitive to a group of people that are offended or oppressed.

From http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/03/21/CampusLife/Burger.Joints.Name.Logo.Irks.Lgbt.Group-3278238.shtml">the Michigan Daily Newspaper.

This sounds more like a wingnut Christian talking than a GLBT group... I mean I am used to being told by narrow-minded Fundamentalists of all stripes that gender and sex are bad, but by other GLBTers?

:wtf:

EDIT: Am I the ONLY person who knows about BOY TOYS and EYE CANDY?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:34 PM
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42. SAMBO's was offensive.


They called him "little black Sambo" (from the book of the same name) but they portrayed him in their later logos as a pasty southwest Asian lad.

That burger logo is simply "suggestive." And it is only "suggestive" if one turns one's dirty little mind to the double-entre possibilities of the word "Quickie." Here's their rather "reaching" justification, and the retort of the owners:

    "I have a problem that you take a women riding a hamburger and you put it next to the word 'quickie,' " he said. "It just seems like it's not putting a good message out there for the objectification of women."

    Maria Arman, whose family owns the restaurant, said the logo was meant to invoke a cowboy theme.

    "We were thinking beef, rodeo, so instead of putting a cowboy, we just picked a cowgirl," she said. "It's a rodeo-style cowgirl riding a bull, but instead, it's a burger. It was put together to be funny and different. No offense was meant to anyone."

    Before selecting a logo for the restaurant, which features a maize and blue color scheme with televisions tuned to ESPN on the interior, the owners showed the logo to more than 100 people and none of them objected, Arman said.


If it had been a naked or scantily clad cowgirl, that would be one thing. But generally, when you are picking a "spokesmodel" for a product, you want an attractive one--be they male OR female. Would the group be happier if the logo was a fat, lardass cowgirl wheezing whilst trying to ride the hamburger bull? Or a potbellied, balding cowboy doing the same?



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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:01 PM
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46. Sambo's still exists
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:49 PM
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47. I don't think there are many left, though--they used to be everywhere.
And once upon a time, that little stereotypical south asian cartoon kid was a very black stereotypical cartoonkid on their menus...

They've just moved their "offense" a bit north, is all, targeting a different population group.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:51 PM
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44. well I have
better things to get outraged about these days than this...when people get so reactive about something like this it's because they feel powerless to deal with bigger issues.

It is kinda gross tho. I wouldn't go there if I could help it. I don't go to Hooters either. Don't want sleeze with my grease.

But people have a right to be stupid with their business logo. I'd just make fun of it.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:01 PM
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45. wait...you mean
...this isn't from The Onion?

:wtf:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:52 PM
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48. you MUST be kidding
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:58 PM
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49. I don't get it.
I'm with Warpy, almost numb regarding being constantly blasted with women's sexuality used to sell - but offensive to the LGBT community specifically? I don't get it.

Color me confused.


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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:06 PM
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50. oooookay
i cannot interpret that as offensive to anyone other than perhaps cows
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:07 PM
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51. For the benefit of confused people who can't put two and two together
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 06:09 PM by Chovexani
1. Sexism is intricately tied into homophobia. In a very real sense, it is the root of it.

2. The last time I checked, women were a part of the LGBT community, and many, many feminists of all genders are in the LGBT community.

3. This is not just about one burger joint's logo, it's about the way women's bodies and sexuality are objectified and used to sell everything from shampoo to car insurance, and we are so numb as a culture to it that most people don't even notice it.

4. If the owner failed to realize that people would read something into "quickie" next to a woman in a suggestive pose, she either fails at marketing 101, or is a liar.

Feel free to flame me, you will only prove point number 3.

Edit: If someone brings up "waaaaa what about Calvin Klein underwear models and the beefcake ads in gay publications", yes, they are obnoxious, but the last time I checked, that problem isn't near as pandemic as the one facing women.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:13 PM
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62. Surely you jest.
A partying woman straddling a giant piece of meat is sexist?
:sarcasm:

#4 is dead on. I'm guessing the owners were hoping that people would read exactly that into it.
My only question is why is the LGBT group the only one saying so? No one else there sees it that way?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:47 AM
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115. Surely you jest...
This is a hamburger joint. There is no larger issue here except to those who make it their mission in life to be offended every chance they get. Granted, they're loud and obnoxious and go out of their way to get attention, but they're relatively few in numbers, thankfully.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:09 PM
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52. What? Lesbians never go home on their lunch breaks for a 'nooner'?
the gay lifestyle sounds boring
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:02 PM
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55. HAHAHA!!
Nooners FTW!!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:10 PM
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53. I don't get it either, what is supposed to be offensive?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:12 PM
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54. I'm Gay and I do not see anything wrong with the logo..
I could really careless considering some real issues at hand.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:06 PM
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56. Outrage and hurt feelings at a college? How unusual...
*cough*
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:12 PM
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57. Reaching for shit on this one.
What the hell is offensive about a woman riding on a flying hamburger? Stupid shit like this helps trivialize real and true bigotry.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:34 PM
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60. Tap, tap. Mike check 1,2 3.....Ummm, excuse me people
but the woman riding the burger has nothing to do with homosexuality.

If you read the article, you'd learn that is has to do with a woman being associated with the word "quickie."

You know, gay groups don't just fight for gay rights.

We're all about human rights, which includes heterosexual society, obviously.

So stop thinking every time a gay group makes a fuss about something, that it's exclusively out to find the "gay offense."

That's not the case.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:52 PM
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69. And Sometimes, Unfortunately Stupid Heterosexual Causes, Too.
Sorry, Cboy, but this is one of the biggest wastes of time I've ever seen.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:27 PM
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84. And what, precisely, is wrong with a quickie?
We live in a busy world.

Not everyone always has time for long, involved, drawn-out lovemaking- be it with a burger or what have you.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:35 PM
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61. Wait, what? I can usually see what is offending people, but this one escapes me?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:17 PM
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63. As one comment on the paper's website said
Eternal grievance theatre.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:59 PM
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65. Good grief, that's a little over the top. But is is Ann Arbor, afterall.
Ann Arbor isn't like every place. It's the most liberal place on the face of the earth I've ever been, which is one of its strong points. But I just don't get this.

I'm not saying they're wrong for feeling the way they do...I don't think they're doing it just for attention. But good lord...pick your battles. Avert your eyes and patronize Zingermans, fer chrissakes!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:03 PM
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66. I'm as prudish as they come and even I can't figure this one out
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:14 PM
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67. Quickie Burger makes the baby Jesus cry...
...and it grabbed and squeezed and hurt my neck.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:50 PM
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68. I'm Definitely Moving to Ann Arbor
It must be a paradise for gays if they're down to complaining about this.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:54 PM
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70. They also have some great restaurants there other than this.
If I can, I always stop at their Whole Foods (biggest and best I've ever seen), and we keep talking about getting to their La Shish, best Middle Eastern food evah!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:19 PM
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71. Better not teel them about this place:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:25 PM
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73. Since I am a woman that sits in a Quickie
every single day, should I be offended at myself?

My heart bleeds for the offense that the Stonewall Democrats have had to endure. :sarcasm:
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:37 PM
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74. My town has a Kum 'N' Go.
Maybe if it had a picture sign it would draw protests too...I don't know.

I really don't get why anyone would be too upset about the Quickie sign.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:52 PM
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77. Mine too, it's called The Bunny Ranch
:rofl: :rofl:


Sorry, couldn't help myself...
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:59 PM
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82. Brilliant, lol
:rofl: That has DUzy written all over it!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:56 PM
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81. Mine has 'Jawanna Car Wash".
Racist?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:43 AM
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114. Mine too, and it tears me up inside!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:49 PM
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76. I could see how riding the hot dog could be offensive
but the burger, thats totally innocent.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:52 PM
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78. Bad taste on that yellow and blue building?
can't be!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:00 PM
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79. I see the NeoVictorian Tighhtasses are alive and well
Kolly ought to join with our own local Town Scolds.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. Who knows- maybe wagging your finger is really good exercise.
Certainly, it's competing with baseball as the great American pastime.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:25 PM
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83. See, LGBT folks are just like everyone else- they have their uptight, sex-phobic prudes- just like
the general population.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:28 PM
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85. I'm offended by the poorly designed logo
:wtf:

One of the worst examples of graphic design since the new Buffalo Sabres logo...



:puke:
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #85
89. you will love the Buffalo Slugs logo
/hypno
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:50 PM
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91. Worst logo in the NHL and their management sucks too!
I hope they don't make the playoffs. Chumps.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:04 PM
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92. Whats your problem with the management?
Buffalo is a *very* small market! and yet 3/5 years they tend to field a pretty competitive team. Last year, throughout the season, Ottawa just had our number else there would be a banner over the sabers rink right now..

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/franchiseRanks

"The results? The Buffalo Sabres rank No. 1 among 122 pro sports teams based on what they give back to fans who invest their time and money in the organization."

--

Yes it sucks they had to lose their best players this year but they do what they have to do to avoid long dry spells (staying out of cap trouble) and making the games affordable to attend.

http://andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-Business/ticket-prices.htm

Only St. Louis and Phoenix have cheaper tickets... Add to that the outdoor live broadcast they do from time to time, and an outdoor hocky game and the sabers management is making Hocky fun in Buffalo..
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:12 PM
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95. Larry Quinn's ineptitude is the problem
Last weekend Hockey Night in Canada did a little expose about the Danny Brier/Chris Drury debacle and found out that both players where very eager to sign long term contracts in 2005 and weren't asking "market price" for salaries and Quinn balked... :wtf:

They may have been the number one sports franchise for what the fans got in return.... LAST YEAR! That was then, this is now. And THIS YEAR, the management has proven that they are NOT committed in building a winner or giving anything back to their fans.

Larry Quinn is as abysmal in business and George W. Bush is.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:22 PM
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99. Not wanting 'Market Rates'
does not mean they were willing to take what the Sabres could afford..
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:30 PM
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100. Yes, that's what they (Brier/Drury) meant.
What player wouldn't want to play for a team that's committed to winning? By not signing either one, Buffalo upset the team chemistry.

How has Detroit been consistently brilliant the past 15 years? Are they paying everyone top dollar?
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:32 PM
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101. Really what were they asking?
If the market demands 10 Million and the player says I can play for as little as 5 million but the team can only afford 3 million whats it matter the player was willing to go for less than market?

--

I was pretty pissed when they both left but thats been the Buffalo Sabres for decades! its a function of our market..
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:36 PM
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102. HNIC stated that the range was around 4 to 5 million
You can live like a King in Buffalo, Detroit or Pittsburgh for that kind of money. That's why I think it's a joke that a player thinks he'll be better off in the big market like Toronto or New York. Do you know how much more expensive it is to live in Toronto, NYC, Philly, LA, Boston, Chicago, San Jose???
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:44 PM
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103. for one or both of them?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:48 PM
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104. Both...
it would have been under the cap too.

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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:51 PM
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106. Hm I was unaware of that,
Still I will give him the bene of the doubt this once because he has done good things with the team in teh past..
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:59 PM
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108. I couldn't disagree more. Larry Quinn has never accomplished anything of note...
he's not fit for selling used cars. Same goes for the rest of the morons who helped run Buffalo, NY into the ground.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:10 PM
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109. The sabres are a sports team nothing more
Who did win the presidents trophy, have been to the Stanly cup and the conference finals in the past 10 years...

The city of Buffalo and region has been run by crap slinging monkeys for 30 years... The difference is one is, basically, a private enterprise and the other is the governmnet.

I had to move away from Buffalo to find a job, I would like to move back but I would have to take a 50% pay cut for a 10% standard of living cut.. Until the leadership of the regions

1) Gets its at together as a metropolitan area not a bunch of theifdoms

2) under stand that right now we are beggers the next time someone wants to build a university in downtown Buffalo, the Mall of America in Niagara falls, ..... Give them the damn land dont haggle!

3) Stop taking chunks of the city, turning them over to foreign nations to establish casinos in the hopes that a closed casino with hotel rooms, restaurants, entertainment, and who only pays you a small percentage from mechanical slot machines will somehow revitalize a downtown..
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:48 PM
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112. thems are fighting words
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:29 PM
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86. She's not a nice girl like Wendy.........
How dare she wear clothes like that and ride a hamburger.
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FightTheRight89 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:49 PM
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90. I don't see what's to protest.
People need to shut up and get a grip.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:05 PM
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93. Get over it. n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:50 PM
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105. Is this some kind of right wing marketing campaign?
You know "The gays hate us so buy our burgers" because I don't see what's offensive.
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Contradistinction Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:58 PM
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107. I don't see the issue
But then again, I never seen the issue with this place http://www.pinktaco.com/ or the donkey punch in Denver for that matter. People need to lighten up.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:13 PM
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110. Would they bitch less if she was riding the hotdog??
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:35 AM
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113. Quickie to protesters: Thanks for the free publicity!
Do people really have nothing better to do than worry about stuff like this? Come on, now. I realize that we're all supposed to be knights of political correctness and offended by absolutely everything that hasn't been approved by every group on earth, but is it really worth an aneurysm to get a girl off a hamburger?

For anyone who hasn't been paying attention, busty girls feature prominently in advertising campaigns for a reason: they sell merchandise. Burquas and bloomers just don't cut it in the 21st century.
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