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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:52 AM
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Conyers: 'If Bush Goes to Iran, He Should Be Impeached'
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80085/#more

Conyers: 'If Bush Goes to Iran, He Should Be Impeached'

Posted by Jane Hamsher, Firedoglake at 9:20 AM on March 18, 2008.

Rep. John Conyers weighs in on Iran and FISA at the Take Back America conference in Washington DC.



John Conyers just finshed up a panel with John Cole and Christy Hardin Smith at Take Back America with words that were heartening to everyone made just a wee bit uneasy by the recent retirement of Admiral Fallon and the implications it might have for war with Iran:

"If Bush Goes Into Iran, He Should Be Impeached," said Conyers.

Conyers also said that with regard to FISA, the House was going into conference with the Senate. That the Senate wanted to give retroactive immunity to the telecoms, and that the House is saying "let a judge decide." But he also made the point that it wasn't just the Republicans who were the problem:

"There were about seventeen Democratic senators that bought into that business. We need to straighten them out," he said.

Christy also noted that if the White House said the telecoms did nothing wrong, they certainly issued some indemnification letters -- and that the legal departments at the telecoms would never have signed off without them.

So where are they?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:54 AM
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1. Jackpine: "Whether Bush goes into Iran or not, he should be impeached." (nt)
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:09 PM
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5. Second
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:27 PM
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31. Third
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:34 PM
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33. And preferably well before he goes to Iran
Bad acts must have consequences, or the law is overturned.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:39 PM
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35. Amen
I am about over John Conyers.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:36 AM
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39. I will add my vote to this
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:56 AM
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2. and iraq is not an impeachable offense???? hey john, the head of your house took it off the table
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:13 PM
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19. Iraq is. So is domestic spying.
Iran would be the last straw. And you can bet President Cheney is dying to invade Iran before January next year.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:59 AM
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3. God damnit Conyers....
He should be impeached now before he gets the chance. :banghead:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:08 PM
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4. Cross this _______________
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 01:02 PM by Solly Mack
Yeah, well, cross this ____________

Hmmm...Well then, let's see you cross this ______________

Oh, I see. I bet you won't cross this _____________

Well, if you cross this _ Oh, oh, oh... shriek.... :::screaming echoes as America falls off the cliff:::




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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:34 PM
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34. yeah!
and we'll huff,

and we'll puff,

and we'll do absolutely NOTHING!

oh, whatever...

:grr:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:12 PM
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6. sorry Congressman Conyers, * should have been impeached years ago.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:12 PM by alyce douglas
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:00 PM
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20. that's for sure . He had made a big deal about it and then
did nothing .
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:19 PM
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7. That's funny s*** from Conyers
If Bush attacks Iran, he'll do it under the cover of a national emergency.

Guess what Conyers? He can suspend Congress indefinitely at that point.

All of you voted yourselves irrelevant years ago.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:23 PM
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8. WHO are the seventeen Democratic Senators? NAME THEM.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:23 PM by Donnachaidh
They need to be Code Pinked, and hear from everyone else who wants this travesty stopped. NAME THEM Mr. Conyers.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:24 PM
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If? IF?!
How about the hundred other things he's done already?!?! :banghead: :grr:
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:24 PM
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9. Hell, it's a little late.
He should have been impeached years ago.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:25 PM
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10. The Conyers dog and pony show
again and again and again. When is he going to get it that we're not fooled by all talk, no action?!
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:56 PM
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36. exactly
They insult our intelligence every day with this bullshit!
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:27 PM
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11. He must be impeached now!
To stop him from going into Iran.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:09 PM
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21. and we all know why Cheney is out in the Middle East now.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:28 PM
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12. Amazing how NOW the Representatives are talking tough
Since it's an election year. No, Mr. Conyers, it's too little, too late. Like someone famous (or not so famous) once said, "Talk is cheap".
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:35 PM
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13. Maybe we should work to prevent war with Iran - how can we do this?...
Uuummm,
Let's see,
hold on a minute,
I"VE GOT IT - let's do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwvSwOP7Ow
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:38 PM
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14. Such a relief that our beloved John Conyers still knows how to bring it.
Kisses, Mr. Conyers. You should be President.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM
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15. What They All Said
Blinders off John
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM
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16. Conyers has the power to begin Impeachment hearings now
One million innocent dead Iraqis are not enough for him?
If they attack Iran, it is too late, obviously!!

We were given the perfect opportunity to impeach Bush when he admitted to illegal wiretapping on national TV.
Conyers promised to begin Impeachment hearings when the Dems won in 2006.
He has stated that Pelosi cannot and is not stopping him.
He is the one responsible for blocking Impeachment right now.
He is an enabler and precisely the type of person we want to take American back from.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:51 PM
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17. Yep. And our supposedly Democratic reps have the power to support it
I went to a townhall with mine recently, and gave him my impeachment materials (again) and he gestured at them and allowed as to how bad and even illegal things had been done but "procedure must be followed." I said "WELL FOLLOW IT ALREADY"!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:16 PM
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22. It's about power, not human life. Hitting Iran would seriously hurt American power.
So necessarily the reaction to such a conflict would be to stop Bush or try to stop him. Better to kill a million Iraqis than sacrifice entirely American power with a war against Iran. That's realpolitik in action.

I find it disgusting, honestly.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:59 PM
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18. He deserves to be impeached NOW...
and, you know it, Conyers. Shit or get off the damned pot.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:18 PM
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23. I Watched John Adams Last Night
could you all imagine our present day congress men and women making the decisions he and his colleagues had to make then? Yeah.... me neither.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:40 PM
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24. Have you read "Profiles in Courage" by JFK?
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:41 PM by MartyL
My gawd that book makes me cry! How far we have fallen...our congressmen were an entirely different breed, actually noble public servants for the most part.

Back in the day, the People would not have allowed this to continue. If a Congressperson was this corrupt they would have confronted them and beat the crap out of them. Maybe a little fear was a good thing. Now they shit in our faces and expect us to like it.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:47 PM
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26. People Keep Telling Me to Read That Book
I'm often reminded that there was a time when statesmen acted like statesmen... I wish I could at least remember that time. You may have experienced the "Golden Age" and if so, you were fortunate.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:46 PM
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25. my god, conyers! HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED NOW!
where the fuck did you go on this issue???
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:50 PM
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27. What a POS thing to say. I used to have such respect for this man, but obviously he
was gotten to, some how, some way.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:54 PM
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28. Joe Biden said the same thing a couple of months ago, but
being a Senator, he doesn't hold the power to start impeachment hearings...CONYERS DOES!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:34 PM
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29. Yeah, like there is no other reason to impeach him...
:eyes:

:banghead:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:13 PM
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30. An ounce of prevention ... impeach him NOW. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:33 PM
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32. He should be STOPPED BEFORE he goes to Iran. .
nevermind closing the barn door after the horse is out. .

sheesh
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:18 PM
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37. Impeachment wouldn't remove them
There is no way that they'd get the 67 votes in the senate. Impeachment should still happen so a serious investigation into Bush's crimes can be started and to send a message, but it won't remove them from office.

Conyers supported impeachment until the dems won the house in 2006, then he changed his mind.

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/12/21/first_step_towar...

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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:34 AM
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38. he had no right to change his mind
It is not about him. That's what our Congress doesn't get anymore. They have a job. They swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. I don't give a damn if they think they will look bad, Fox will call them names, Cheney will be mean, someone might not like them. They are so selfish and immature. Have some integrity for GOD's sake!!

The war in Iraq has killed over one million Iraqis. The same people go on and on about the Jewish Holocaust. WE killed ONE MILLION IRAQIS!!! For Greed- and pretend we are doing them a favor. It is SICK!!! This is one sick country. If they will not Impeach, we need to throw every one of them out of office. Conyers is running unopposed. He acts like an arrogant prick because he has no fear of being thrown out of office.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:39 AM
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40. Operative words in this conditional phrase, SHOULD BE
Translation, we don;'t have the spine to impeach, (or rather indict) so can you people stop bugging us? We are the guv'ment after all and we have no time for the Constitution

And to think that at one time I actually believed in the system
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:10 AM
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41. Bush should be impeached . . . N O W . . !!!
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:06 AM
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42. WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO UNDERSTAND THERE WILL NEVER BE THE IMPEACHMENT.OF BUSH - EVER!
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:09 AM by Thepricebreaker
Holy fucking shit you people drive me crazy.. as if this has ANY FUCKING CHANCE in an election year.. PUT IT BEHIND YOU.. ITS NEVER FUCKING GOING TO HAPPEN...

Put your fucking focus on McCain.. Bush is gone in 2009.. get the fuck over it already.. we aren't running against him...
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:11 AM
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43. true
It was also unlikely that in the 1950s a sheriff in a white southern town would prosecute someone who committed violence against blacks. But that doesn't make it ok to not prosecute out of fear of cultural and political retribution. The dems won't do it, but that doesn't mean we can't point out how unprincipled and spineless they are.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:13 AM
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44. we can't continue to fall for this type of foolishness
So he saw how popular he became with the left when he brought up impeachment. He knows that he and Pelosi aren't going to do a damn thing about Iraq, so they move the goal post so that they can dangle another piece of fish in front of us for another few years. I'M NOT TAKING THE BAIT!

Don't insult my intelligence, Mr. Conyers! I'd rather you just shut up about the entire thing. Honestly.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:21 AM
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45. He already should have been impeached for illegally invading Iraq!
I doubt the puppet Congress would do anything if Bush attacked Iran anyway. Anything besides cheering Bush on, that is.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 AM
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46. And...Lucy holds the football for Charlie Brown, yet again...
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dingopanga Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:21 AM
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47. Wow! Can't you hear Dubya quaking in his boots!
This is simply pathetic.

Bush/Cheney have already committed numerous impeachable offenses. The House Democrats have the numbers to impeach and possibly STOP a war on Iran before it starts. Admittedly, they do not have the numbers in the Senate to convict--which requires a two thirds majority. However, impeachment is similar to an indictment and it would signal a resolve--to the world, to the U.S. military, to the corporate media, to the American public--that the Democratic Congress would no longer roll over for the criminal madness of King Dubya.

The Crawford Caligula is nearing the end of his 8 years of ruination and mass murder, and Conyers is threatening that a war on Iran would be grounds for impeachment? I can almost hear them shaking in fear down at the White House...once they stop their laughing.
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