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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:14 PM
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America will not rest until Obama says Jesus had blue eyes
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 08:15 PM by kpete
America will not rest until Obama says Jesus had blue eyes
Posted by Amanda Marcotte March 15, 2008


Why the fuck do I know Obamas ministers name?! No, really. Why? I dont know John McCains ministers name. (But he does have a spiritual guide.) I dont know Hillary Clintons ministers name? I dont know John Edwards ministers name. I dont know Mitt Romneys ministers name, and Romney was in a church that is actually out of the mainstream and raised questions. I dont know George Bushs ministers name, but I know that whoever he is probably thinks Im going to burn in hell for all eternity for the sin of being a feminist atheist.

Nothing that Rev. Jeremiah Wright said from the pulpit is, in an objective sense, any worse than damning the majority of the population to hell, which is a bare minimum requirement for the religious right assholes in this country that were supposed to show such great respect for because its their beliefs and theyre religious. Oh, he shot himself in the foot by giving some liberals a toehold to get all bunched up and judge-y, but the only reason were in this place is because Obamas church is being monitored closely, and its being monitored because hes black, and because his church is a black church, and because a whole lot of white people are looking for a way to define Christian in such a way that Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago doesnt count.

Because, as Ive said before, the religious tensions in this country are not about actual tenets of faith, dogma, or anything like that. Its tribal warfare in Sunday clothes. Obamas church is being monitored by the press, and I for one am outraged. Hell, Huckabees fire and brimstone bullshit didnt get half the attention this nonsense is getting. If were going to treat people of faith with respect, by god, we better have the same standard for white and for black. I dont give a shit if someone worships a teapotits all the same to meI vote for them by their policies. We atheists think its all bullshit.

The sad thing is that this tip-toeing respect of religion has been used as a cover for a larger set of cultural issues that, without the Bible-thumping as a distraction, would be much harder to defend. Basically, its a culturally conservative, patriarchal, Anglo-Saxon, moneied class trying to demand that they be recognized as the dominant culture in the U.S. that all other cultures are divergences from. When they say, America is a Christian nation, they mean, America is a patriarchal, white-dominated nation with a strict hierarchy that puts our people on top. You may be permitted to have other cultural choices, within limits, so long as you recognize ours publicly as the valid ones. But boy, if someone from another culture really tries to lay claim to real power, the fucking mask of respect for people of faith comes flying off, doesnt it?

more at:
http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/15/america-will-no... /
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:16 PM
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1. I've only seen his name here
and didn't read the tripe.
But I bet I could put it all together...
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:23 PM
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2. Well that's 3 votes ... A little help?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:26 PM
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3. k&r
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:28 PM
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4. I wish it weren't so
But after having to face my disappointment with the way racism has been exploited in this campaign, I do believe it must be true.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:30 PM
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5. K&R
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 08:30 PM by sweets
:kick:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:31 PM
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6. Jeebus had blue eyes?
Um... dunno fer sure, but I don't think so.

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:56 PM
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8. This white lady loves that picture. Truth is beautiful.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:44 PM
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7. I talked to my land lady this morning
she said " Did you hear what Obama's preacher said!!?"

"No", I lied , "I don't really follow politics."

"He said instead of god bless America it should be god damn America"

"Obama said that?"

"No his preacher did. We can't have people who feel that way for our president."

"I am sure Obama does not feel that way."

"He scares me, I hope Hillary wins."

Kind of says it all, don't it.

P.S. When dealing with someone who can have you thrown out of your house it is best to take a neutral stance.

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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:56 PM
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9. K and R
Thanks, kpete. This is the disucssion we should be having. Both Obama attackers and defenders are misreading this issue.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:57 PM
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10. "tribal warfare in Sunday clothes"
Bingo.

Yes. Well said.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:23 AM
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11. But... but...
I was taught in Sunday school that Jesus is a gun toting, hippie hating, God fearing, red blooded, American. I shit you not. I actually had this bs rammed into my head at an early age. So how dare you... how dare you suggest that my Lord and Master over Everything i Do does not have blue eyes. He surely does... I would know... I've seen pictures...
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:09 AM
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12. Locking.
This belongs in GDP. Please feel free to re-post.
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