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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:29 PM
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Propaganda Alert- "Evidence" Emerges of Iran's Continued Nuclear Weapons Research


Evidence emerges of Iran's continued nuclear weapons research
By Mark Harrington
14 March 2008



Documents shown exclusively to Jane's indicate that Iran is continuing its pursuit of the advanced technologies necessary to develop a nuclear weapon, regardless of Tehran's claims that its nuclear programme is purely peaceful.

Jane's was shown the information by a source connected to a Western intelligence service, and the documents were verified by a number of reliable independent sources in Vienna.

The picture the papers paint starkly contradicts the US National Intelligence Estimate released in December 2007, which said Tehran had frozen its military nuclear programme in 2003. It also comes against a backdrop of the UN's 4 March approval of a third round of trade and economic sanctions against Iran (under Security Council Resolution 1803) for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment and heavy-water-related projects.

Iran continues to officially deny any connection between the Iranian ministry of defence (MoD) and nuclear research and development in its dealings with the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), but the documents seen by Jane's show that Iran has made great strides with one of the key non-nuclear technologies needed for a working nuclear weapon: the implosion system.

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http://www.janes.com/news/security/countryrisk/idr/idr0...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:33 PM
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1. This myteriously sourced piece of "informantio" will be used as the
basis for a ramp up in the rhetoric against Iran. It is vital that it gets traced back to where it came from.

I hope that the people who put together the NIE of 12/7 are working hard to defend their report. If they don't, they'll be accused of putting together "bad intelligence".
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:44 PM
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7. Yes. The fact that this is published by the usually immaculate Jane's
is, on the surface, quite damning, although the fact is that the article (the non-subscribers' part) does no more than refer to papers presented to it by, apparently, a "Western" intelligence official. This is hardly the normal route such information would take, unless the purpose is to sway public opinion. And that's what's worrying.

If the information is solid and is not new, then and only then would the NIE of 12/7 people have some explaining to do. If this is not new information, then the NIE people would presumably for valid reasons have weighed it and discarded or discounted it.

Of course, even at worst, such research, although not declared to the IAEA, should not provide an excuse for bombing anyone, in a sane, civilised world.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:57 PM
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11. To let you know
Jane's was bought by IHS in 2007.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:11 AM
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17. Fuck. Didn't know. Another one bites the dust:
...IHS is a leading provider of military and aerospace parts, standards, and regulatory databases, and related decision-support tools and services. The combination of these IHS assets with the information, insight, analysis and brand of Janes allows IHS to deliver an unparalleled suite of products and services.

The combination of IHS and Janes clearly strengthens both companies and creates more growth and greater opportunities to increase value for our customers, said Alfred Rolington, chief executive officer of Janes. We look forward to enhancing the critical information and insight on which governments and businesses have come to rely to make critical decisions.

The growing shared interest of the defense establishment and energy industry in the security and production of oil and gas around the world presents another opportunity, positioning the combined companies as a global leader in energy security issues.

The convergence of energy and security issues in recent years has driven markets and prices on a daily basis and placed energy security squarely at the forefront of the minds of everyone from governments to businesses to individuals, said Daniel Yergin, executive vice president of IHS and chairman of CERA. The insight and expertise that IHS and CERA provide in the energy arena, now coupled with Janes depth and quality of security analysis, will be a unique, broad-based source of timely information, knowledge and insight into a range of energy security issues around the world.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:55 PM
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9. BTW, how do we know that the people who put together the NIE of 12/7
have not been "retired" by now?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:35 PM
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2. It's like the rerun of a bad movie......
..... and we know how it ends.

:scared:

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:35 PM
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3. Vice President Dick Cheney had this to say about the development:
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Iran now has weapons of mass destruction.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:21 AM
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14. Condi must be clearing her schedule for the Sunday shows to come
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:33 AM
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16. You can count on that.
Gotta get the word out about that smoking mushroom cloud. But it doesn't look like the new Terra Terra, War War tour will be kicking off just yet. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is making the rounds of today's Sunday talk shows to make sure we all understand how the tax cuts worked to stimulate our booming economy.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 PM
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4. yellow cake.............
from Africa?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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5. Didn't Jane's help to perpetuate the myth that Saddam
was developing WMDs?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
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6. Let it go out of your heart
Let it go out of your heart and into the stone
Jane Urquhart
The Stone Carvers.



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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:48 PM
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8. ?. . .. . n/t
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:57 PM
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10. "Jane's was shown the information by a source connected to a Western intelligence service"
*snicker*

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:13 AM
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12. Who cares?
Why do we give a shit if Iran is developing nuclear power. I think that if we make it perfectly clear what will happen in retaliation to any sort of nuke attack would be a good enough deterrent. For me, the thought of my entire culture and people being wiped off the map because some dumbfuck blew up a dirty bomb would stop me from doing that. But then again, these "terr-rists" aren't people, so bomb bomb bomb Iran Dubya. :sarcasm:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:18 AM
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13. all coinciding with Fallon's resignation and McBush's Mideast tour
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:21 AM
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15. Yep. Besides, I thought Iran was 10yrs off from having technology to make a single bomb
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:31 AM
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18. It is absolutly impossible to hide a nuclear weapons program
It can not be hidden, particularly in what is clearly the most spied on section of real estate on earth.
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