The first article on my arrest for taking photos of Miami cops

[RagingInMiami]

http://www.category305.com/magic-city/miami-police-arre...




EDIT:
Here is my initial post on the incident.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[lpbk2713]

1. Thanks for keeping us posted.

Frankly I tend to believe there has been no comment from MPD because they are trying to get a believable story together. I'm not very optimistic regarding their openness. Good luck.

[leftofthedial]

2. first they came for RagingInMiami . . .

I can't believe that kind of thing can happen in America.

Our country has been conquered by fascists.

Are you okay?

[blm]

10. That was my first thought when I read this.

Geez - - this is why I refuse to accept any Democratic candidate who represents just a friendlier face of fascism. Nope. Never again. I want the next Dem administration to work to expose the fascists, not cover for them.

[Donnachaidh]

3. unbelievable!

PLEASE keep us updated.

[Dr.Phool]

4. K&R

Sue the fuck out of the bastards. And file criminal complaints.

[Tempest]

5. Sue the shit out of those fascists

I expect your case will be thrown out of court from the description and pictures.

[dogday]

6. Our local police have been replaced by State Police

and they have had homeland security training.... Protect and serve.... Shit.....

Sorry this happened to you...

[michreject]

57. Our Twp. police got replaced

by our County police. First thing that the County police did was hire all the Twp. police that lost their job when the County took over.

[Benhurst]

7. Where's David Caruso when you need him?

I'm beginning to think the Miami cops may not be as caring as we've been led to believe.

Just don't tell me the women don't all look like Emily Proctor. A guy's got to have his dreams.

[ms liberty]

24. Looking for his sunglasses...

After all, as David Caruso shows us each and every week, unless you can put on or take off your sunglasses as you deliver your pronouncements they lose their meaning entirely.

[Desert Liberal]

60. Hey, hey now! Let's not bash Horatio...

[Ian David]

8. Here you go. This should help.

STUDENT BUSTED FOR TAKING COP PICTURES
Friday, July 28, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com

A Penn State college senior was arrested after he pointed his camera cell phone at police activity in his neighborhood. A Philadelphia NBC News Channel 10 report says the family of Neftaly Cruz, 21, is claiming the cops had "no right to come onto their property and arrest their 21-year-old son simply because he was using his cell phone's camera."

Cruz had heard a commotion outside his parents' home and walked out the door to investigate it. When he saw the street lined with police, he flipped his phone open to take a picture. Within moments, an officer came to his back gate, put him into a police car, cuffed him and took him to jail. According to a neighbor's report, the cop spoke only once during this process, allegedly saying, "You should have just went in the house and minded your own business instead of trying to take pictures off your picture phone."

The charge against Cruz was based on a new law, allegedly prohibiting people from taking pictures of police officers with cell phones. Cruz is quoted as saying, "They threatened to charge me with conspiracy, impeding an investigation, obstruction of a investigation..." Larry Frankel of the local ACLU chapter, reportedly said, "There is no law that prevents people from taking pictures of what anybody can see on the street," adding that, "it's rather scary that in this country you could actually be taken down to police headquarters for taking a picture on your cell phone of activities that are clearly visible on the street." - ST

More:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=17667


Also:

Cell Phone Picture Called Obstruction Of Justice
Man Arrested For Shooting Photo Of Police Activity

POSTED: 6:41 pm EDT July 25, 2006
UPDATED: 11:58 am EDT July 31, 2006

<snip>

The NBC 10 Investigators asked the ACLU union how they viewed the incident.

"There is no law that prevents people from taking pictures of what anybody can see on the street," said Larry Frankel of the American Civil Liberties Union. "I think it's rather scary that in this country you could actually be taken down to police headquarters for taking a picture on your cell phone of activities that are clearly visible on the street."

Frankel said Cruz's civil rights might have been violated.

"He was unlawfully seized, which is a violation of the 4th amendment the last time we checked," Frankel said.

Cruz, a Penn State University senior, said that after about an hour police told him he was lucky because there was no supervisor on duty, so they released him.

More:
http://www.nbc10.com/news/9574663/detail.html

Also:

Slashdot | Citizen Photographers v. The Police?
Anthony Boyd is one of the readers whose inclination to believe the police is mitigated by the facts as reported in the case of Philadelphia's Neftaly Cruz: ...
http://backslash.slashdot.org/backslash/06/07/31/195248...

[AikidoSoul]

34. Great post by IanDB1 -- thanks a lot for this good information

Hopefully our guy can use it.

Need to get ACLU firmly behind this.

[mmonk]

35. Interesting.

Never heard of such a law. There should be warnings (though I don't see how it is constitutional).

[Ian David]

39. Nope. There IS NO SUCH LAW. The cops lied to the kid when they made the arrest. n/t

[mmonk]

43. Sorry.

The story said based on a new law (though I don't see how or have heard of such) and that was the reason for my response. They all seem to make up things as they go along these days. Hope the courts set them straight and start punishing police officials engaged in false arrests.

[Ian David]

45. No problem...

Just don't let it happen again.

[mmonk]

48. .

[gulfcoastliberal]

47. Absolutely right on. Precedent, unless it changed, allows for taking

pictures anywhere considered "public". Even the inside your home is considered a "public" space that can be photographed, but only through windows or doors, if the blinds/doors are open. From what the ACLU rep said, it doesn't sound like that precedent has been revisited. Yet...

[ceile]

9. Thanks for the update.

[rock]

11. Keep fighting

Thanks for keeping us informed

[Mandate My Ass]

12. I have a feeling the "Miami Model" put in place in 2004

is still in effect long after the peaceful protests were violently quashed. Good luck to you.

[Ian David]

13. You should refer back to your original post: I was beat up, handcuffed and arrested by Miami police

I was beat up, handcuffed and arrested by Miami police after photographing them against their wishes
Topic started by RagingInMiami on Feb-23-07 11:11 AM (331 replies)
Last modified by MindPilot on Feb-25-07 11:41 AM
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[bbernardini]

14. Alas, the first comment at the link is from an idiot. nt

[bbernardini]

16. Update: First THREE comments... nt

[uppityperson]

42. Looks like OP has stalkers. thanks for the updates

[EFerrari]

72. You know, those posts sound really familiar to me. n/t

[lpbk2713]

20. You had me worried there ....

until I went back to the link and read those comments.

[bbernardini]

22. There. Fixed it for ya.

[AngryAmish]

15. Can we get a pdf of the police report?

[RagingInMiami]

27. The report I have is a carbon copy that does not scan well

Once we get all the reports from PD, we will post them on www.category305.com

[AngryAmish]

29. thanx

[RagingInMiami]

83. The PDFs of the arrest report are on this link

http://thomashawk.com/2007/02/other-side-of-carlos-mill...

Just scroll down to the middle of the page where it says:

Carlos Miller Arrest report page one.pdf

Carlos Miller Arrest report page two.pdf

[Tuesday_Morning]

17. K & R

Looks like the comments section of the article could use some DU love and education.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. yikes. sorry,

[Ian David]

19. See prior threads on DU about Neftaly Cruz

General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) forum
Man Arrested For Taking Cellphone Photo Of Police Activity
Topic started by pbartch on Aug-02-06 04:23 PM (23 replies)
Last modified by mark414 on Aug-03-06 04:12 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Arrested for taking a pic of a cop arresting someone else
Topic started by Twist_U_Up on Jul-29-06 05:34 PM (18 replies)
Last modified by pitohui on Jul-29-06 07:30 PM
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Hopefully, this will come in handy for both your defense, and your civil rights suit.

[Janice325]

21. Thanks for keeping us posted. I thought the article was

well written.
The 4 responses to the article thus far, are,IMO, nutjob repuke type trolls just trying to stir shit.
"David Allen????" C'mon, get real, if that's even his real name. (Please note, the preceding comments are in no way whatsoever directed at "the real" David Allen who has frequented DU or anyone else named David Allen)
k&r

[pitohui]

23. do you have an attorney on this case?

i am not going to join the crowds yelping "keep us posted," it may well be that you have knocked out one of your most powerful negotiating tools by publicizing this arrest before you have had an attorney look at all your options

of course miami may be less corrupt than some other areas of usa, but i do know of a case similar to this where the innocent victim of police brutality could ultimately only get the very serious "resisting arrest" charges dropped against her by dropping her own lawsuit and any publicity against the police department in question

if the case already becomes well-publicized, you've lost that bargaining chip and you may actually give the police/prosecutors more motivation to bring a strong case to try to convict you -- reason, if you're convicted of these charges, you won't have as much luck suing them for the brutality

this is just my opinion and not a true legal opinion but it's a concern i've had since reading your first post on the subject (i hope an unnnecessary concern but the point is I DON'T KNOW)

i think you need an attorney NOW who has experience dealing with this type of case

it could very well be the attorney will advise you to stop publishing or posting about it on the internet or in the other news media until they have a better idea of where the case is going

keep in mind, police depts. don't like to pay out big settlements, as far as they are concerned, it's better for them to all hang together and convict you and destroy your life if this thing can't be quietly dropped

you need better advisors than the internet

good luck and be careful

[AikidoSoul]

37. You're thinking like an attorney, and that's o.k., but what about the problem that these types of

crimes are too often hidden from view? RagingInMiami is an activist and he knows these things need to be publicized. We all know that the police will get away with these kinds of fascist tactics because hardly anyone makes their behavior an issue.

If the ACLU takes the case I think he has a good shot.

Can't help wondering what RagingInMiami's appearance and clothing were during the police incident. The photo in the Category 305 article (link below) may have conjured up paramilitary images that police and the establishment automatically react to as worthy of suspicion and harassment. Am speaking of RagingInMiami's photo in dark glasses, military fatigues, and sho-boy/military inner-city hat -- etc.

http://www.category305.com/magic-city/miami-police-arre...

The police seem to have knee-jerk reactions to certain clothing. So much of what we're seeing seems to be a class issue. If he was dressed in a suit, standing next to his Mercedes, he would most likely have been treated much differently.

I applaud RaginginMiami's efforts to bring attention to this injustice.

[pitohui]

50. i don't especially want him to sacrifice himself for a doubtful "visibility"

i think he needs to talk to a lawyer and figure out how to keep his ass out of prison

better than drawing attention to injustice is to stop the injustice cold

my concern is -- by publicizing too aggressively without legal advice, it could be he's giving away one of the chips he may need to survive, people sitting here and cheering him on and crying "lawsuit" may be urging him to do the one thing that will cause the miami pd and district attorney's office to band together and be sure he is tried and jailed so that no civil lawsuit will stand a chance in front of a jury

and don't say it can't happen, innocent people go to jail all the time, dna proves it these days

now if his attorney has already signed off on the publicity, that's a different matter, i'm sure he or she knows best the strategy for that area

but i'm not going to sit here at no risk to myself and urge someone to continue on a highly risky path to them

hell, i may worry too much and the police brutality case i discussed in the post above is old -- but still -- it's best to consult w. real legal experts before publicizing things like this

[AikidoSoul]

51. RagingInMiami looks like a scrapper to me, so let's hope he can fight this

To begin with -- what he did is not against the law.

The police officers violated the law.

RagingInMiami has a damning photo.

The photographer is NOT in jail.... it's a little too late for them to arrest him again because he did not violate the law.

The story the cops told has already been recorded -- part of their testimony is already provably false.

This police incident is one of many where the Miami PD is completely out of line. RagingInMiami is fighting injustice. He is a kind of hero for doing this. Don't ya think?

[Tsiyu]

25. Some of the comments on there

must be from Miami PD officers trying to cover their co-workers' asses.

They crack me up.

"This is America and you have no rights. Get over it! And by the way, liberals hate us for our freedoms!!!!1111!!!!!!"

If only the fascists knew how insane they sound to REAL Americans.....

[CrazyOrangeCat]

26. K&R

for a patriot.

[me b zola]

28. k&r

Keep on Raging in Miami!

[havocmom]

30. kick

[Nimrod2005]

31. OMFG! Did you see all the comments form the freakrepublic people?

At the end , there are a bunch of comments about Skinner EarlG and DU...ROFL.

[Ian David]

41. The Freepers really SHOULD be on our side on this issue

1) Wouldn't they want someone taking pictures if there was another Ruby Ridge or Waco?

2) If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide. At least, that's what they say when the government spies on US.

3) This is Murika! Freedom of Speech! Freedom of Press!

4) What if the cops were unfairly infringing on a citizen's right to bear arms? The Freepers would want THAT on camera.

[NobleCynic]

67. Yeah those caught my eye too

Who has the free time to sit around and spam idiocy like that? Really now. There are some disturbed minds out there. Although I suppose reacting to it only feeds it...

[insane_cratic_gal]

86. They troll du

Probably how they found out about it. I don't EVER go over to FP! Just a sick sick amount of Hate they produce and I have a life, I can't sit around all day being a keyboard warrior skewing polls all day.

[bear425]

32. Sorry that happened to you R I M

Hope you get some satisfaction from the Miami PD and ACLU pursuit.

[AX10]

33. K & R!

Best of luck! These are public roads and what the police do on the job is a matter of public record. If you do not believe this then you can go to THAT side and join Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

[nashville_brook]

36. your story has become a big topic of conversation (central florida)

i'm in central florida -- brevard, palm bay, melbourne -- and when i read your first piece i brought it up for discussion with friends. we "get it" about hyper cops. most of us have spent some time in miami -- it's not Nashville. there's some real tension.

i used to publish to newspaper, so i was arguing the point that journalists NEED to be out documenting street scenes -- like Weegee. and i wondered if he ever ran into a situation like yours.

my friends were quick to point out that cops have a "prey instinct" now -- espeically in tense areas -- that makes getting near them really dangerous. i understand what they are saying from a personal standpoint... you don't people close to you to be in danger... and that's how the conversation evolved.

my point is, there's a theme (or a story) here about the journalist's role in crime and city reporting that people JUST DON'T GET anymore and it's a shame because we need you guys now more than ever. cops are too accustomed to operating in "the dark." civilians are too accustomed to fearfully avoiding cops and victim-blaming when something goes wrong.

my heart says that there's an action beyond the court action -- maybe this is something that is taken to the Metro Board and argued from the standpoint of "hey -- we are SUPPOSED to be on the same side here, are we not?" yes, there needs to be justice, absolutely. but i'd also like to see you be able to use this incident as a means to gain access and dig deeper into your field. cops need to know who the "good guys" are -- and even if in your heart of hearts you fear and loathe these fuckers, your best interest lays in them recognizing you as a VALID and IMPORTANT part of the city just like them -- like you said -- we are all blue collar workers here.

best of luck -- and i am so sorry this happened. i was beat up once by a "peace officer" -- i know the "crazy-making" world that lands you in. i like the story your editor wrote -- keep keeping on.

[tblue37]

38. You need to become a Boy Named Sue, Sue, Sue!!! (eom)

[wicket]

40. You are a true patriot

[AikidoSoul]

44. DUers seem to be driving the hate monger posters nuts at the category305 site that wrote up a report

on this incident.

Makes me proud to see that DUers drive the screws in with fine honed intelligence and humor. All the Freepers have to offer is blunt hate and prejudice.

[VP505]

46. Thanks for

the up-date. I found the comments posted with that article to be unbelievably ignorant and hateful. If this is the result of 6 years of Bu$h Admin attitude that the Constitution is "a goddamn piece of paper", patriots have a lot of work to do to turn this country around. How those posters can think that it's ok for Police to act like Gestapo thugs and then lie about it and add insult to injury by accusing the victim of somehow deserving that treatment is beyond me.

[AikidoSoul]

49. RagingInMiami might want to see this comment about Florida case law

by Ashley Simmons Hotz -- one of the posters on the Category305 site here:

http://www.category305.com/magic-city/miami-police-arre...

Comment:
>>>SNIP>>>

This very issue was settled in the Florida Supreme Court which established that the police CANNOT order you to stop taking pictures or to leave the area while they are doing police work UNLESS you have crossed over the yellow tape at a crime scene. There is a law against doing audio tapes of police activity -- but not video, and not photographs.

Look it up yourself on Nexus Lexus in Florida case law, or call any photographer at a news agency in Florida. To be sure nothing has changed I checked with a friend who has been a Florida police chief for many years, and with a local criminal attorney. The photographer is in the right. The Miami PD is in the wrong. The photographer has the right to sue.

[Duppers]

62. Great find, AS. nt

nt

[ProudDad]

52. There are some real nutjob comments

at the end of the article.

Some using names like EarlG, Skinner, etc. Freeperdom, eh?

How ya' holding up?

Don't forget to sue the bastards!

[piesRsquare]

55. Yeah...I just read a bunch of the comments...

...and I feel like my IQ has now dropped several points. Oy!

[ProudDad]

53. I carry my digital camera

everywhere I go and won't hesitate to use it to take pictures of any police activity that looks the least bit suspicious.

I've used it to take pictures of the cops at demonstrations but in San Francisco most of the cops are on our side anyway.

That wasn't the case back in the 60s--I got rousted plenty in S.F. back then...

[Janice325]

54. Lots of nasty freeper posts over there.

Much hatred toward DU. They must be very,very afraid of DU and other like minded folks.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

95. Most likely the Sphincter. FR people are just numbnuts, whereas

those from the Sphincter are out-and-out psychopaths.

You know the kind of people who'll spend a week doing nothing but make sure a liberal loses his job.

If you don't know what the Sphincter is, PM me.

[piesRsquare]

56. Hey Raging!

You're cute! Love yer smile!

[RagingInMiami]

75. Thanks

Your post made me smile.

[RagingInMiami]

58. The Miami Herald just wrote about the incident in its crime blog

Let's see what those right-wing constitution haters post this time.


http://miamiherald.typepad.com/crime_scene /

While reporting about Miami's Upper Eastside gentrification efforts for the online publication Category305, Miller began photographing some Miami police officers interviewing a subject on Biscayne Boulevard.

According to Miller's account of the story (read what Category 305 posted), five cops asked him to move on. He says he identified himself as a journalist and informed them he was allowed to photograph on public property.

They disagreed, saying Miller was standing in the middle of the street and disobeying their orders. He was arrested, charged with several misdemeanors and booked into jail, where he was released the next day pending trial.

Miller pleaded not guilty and says he will fight the charges. In an e-mail to me tonight, he wrote, "Sure it would have been easier to do as they say and continue walking. But for me, it's more important to stand up for my First Amendment rights. And this, as you know, affects all of us in the media."

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/crime_scene/

[lonestarnot]

59. I hope those sons a bitches get to pay you a bunch of money and are

ordered to give you a public appology! Kick ass rag'n!

[Lisa0825]

61. K&R!

[bridgit]

63. stunning set of events, do go forward RIM...

[aaronbees]

64. Good for you and best wishes....

Hope you see some justice in all this and THANK YOU from this reporter for standing up for our rights out there. As someone above said, patriot indeed.

[Duppers]

65. thanks for keeping us posted, Raging.

Since you first posted, Raging, I had a minor problem with a State Trooper.

A few days ago I was traveling home, finishing a 340 mile round trip, and was almost to my interstate exit. I was tired--I had driven the whole trip, it was 1:15am, and I had increased my speed way too much. (I have to say that I am an excellent driver, never had an accident, and never had an insurance claim, but I do have a heavy foot at times.) Driving down a long slope, I spied a trooper's car hidden in trees in the median and as soon as I spotted him, I hit my brakes and slowed down. He pulled in behind me and followed me for at least a half mile before turning on his blue lights.

I pulled over, rolled down my window, and exercised my most polite voice. I did not protest the ticket in the lest---until he said that I had continued to travel at my clocked speed of 79mph! Horseshit! (I didn't say that out-loud.) I had dropped below 65mph very quickly! My hubby verified that, but, still, I only said, "I don't think so"!! There was no other conversation as I thought it best to save it for court.

When he handed me the ticket, I said "thank you," which was just a conditioned response for this southern gal---when anyone gives me anything, I say 'thank you.' It was then he wheeled back toward my rolled down window and loudly and sarcastically said, 'WHAT did you say to me?"
I repeated "thank you!" I wanted no other conversation with this little lying bastard---I say 'little' 'cause he was shorter than 5'5" me!

On the drive home, I kept puzzling and asking my hubby what the hell did this "officer" think I said?? After a few mins. it dawned on my hubby that this 'officer' thought I said 'Fuck You'!!!! As if I'd be stupid enough to say that to an officer!!! And as if I'd be stupid enough not to slow down when a state trooper is following me!!!

By the time I got home I was more than furious. At 1:30am I called the State Trooper offices in the capitol to complain about this jerk, and after unloading to three people, I felt better. I intend to write a letter that I'll read to the judge when I go to trial in March. I don't expect much, but I'd like to embarrass this "officer" in court. I should offer to take a lie-detector test (yes, a bit overly dramatic, I know) if that bastard will. Y'all think?

My little story is very trivial, and I tell it only because I've never had an officer treat me like that ever before and because I immediately thought of your awful experience, Raging. How outraged you must have felt!!

I realize that most officers are good folks trying to make an honest living protecting society but some are very insecure and some are just down and dirty rotten bastards.

[Duppers]

66. P.S.

I hope the ACLU helps you sue, Raging. Good luck and keep us updated.


(Btw, my son just joined the local chapter of the ACLU.)

[BlueStorm]

68. Alot of those bile-filled, hateful messages have got to come from Certifiable Underground...

But other than that I hope you have good luck in fighting these fascist pigs Raging, no one should have to go through that.

Blue

[anitar1]

69. Thanks, I've been wondering about you.

Hope it goes well for you.

[autorank]

70. That's some very nice writing Raging...thank you!!! K/R

I hope you're feeling better and that themedical stuff is OK.

Who the Hell do they think that they are?

But, as I read your article at Category 305 I thought, I bet that there's a provision in some Patriot Act that says cops can beat the Hell out of reporters. Gotta be.

You're a brave individual and a mench. My highest respect and regards to you.

[EFerrari]

71. Take them to the cleaners, my friend.

We don't need criminals in uniform posing as public servants.

[Wednesdays]

73. But...but...but you said you were 60 feet away...

and the in the article it says "about 20 yards." So your whole story is a LIE!!!

The charge against Cruz was based on a new law, allegedly prohibiting people from taking pictures of police officers with cell phones. Cruz is quoted as saying, "They threatened to charge me with conspiracy, impeding an investigation, obstruction of a investigation..." Larry Frankel of the local ACLU chapter, reportedly said, "There is no law that prevents people from taking pictures of what anybody can see on the street," adding that, "it's rather scary that in this country you could actually be taken down to police headquarters for taking a picture on your cell phone of activities that are clearly visible on the street."

Let me get this straight...the government and corporations can put cameras on every traffic light and building, watching our every move, but we ordinary citizens can't photograph jack shit?

[The Doctor.]

74. The answer is remote-feed video.

All people need to do is walk around with those all day.

They can take the camera, but unless you tell them where the receiver is, they can't take the footage away and it can be used as evidence later.

I am all for civilians performing surveillance activities. The cops hate the idea because they might have to stop acting like assholes.

Why are these assholes so conditioned to treat everyone like criminals?

"The police used to watch over the people, now they're watching the people."

[EFerrari]

77. Could you explain that a little for us geekness-challenged people?

[The Doctor.]

84. Sure...

(But I'm SO not computer savvy)

I don't know what the name of the equipment is, I just know that we should have some sort of hand-held video device that feeds a transmission to a remote recorder.

Sure, the technology is already in use, but the application of an AV feed when asshole cops are about to fuck with you is priceless.

So you've got your little camera, they walk up and ask what you're doing. You say, "Just taking pictures of the skyline". They say 'give us the camera'. You say, "Well, no. Besides... it's on remote feed so it's actually recording all this somewhere else."

"What the $#^&? Give me the camera!"

"Sir, I'm just taking a video of a public street, and the footage is being sent somewhere very safe. Thank you for your concern, I can assure you I'll be done in a few minutes."

-Get the idea?

If the cops know that what they are doing is on a video they can't get a hold of, they are much more likely not to be assholes.

They could beat me to death before I told them where the storage device was, then my wife and my attorney would make a fortune and the assholes could go spend time in jail with the convicts they fucked with.
At least that way the police would have to become more and more conscious of their behavior.

It's a win for Civil Liberties.

[EFerrari]

87. That's brilliant, Dr _e.

Because the authoritarians HATE that we have the tools to record their misbehavior.

Sending it remote (even *I* get it, lol!) deprives them of the opportunity to confiscate our witnessing!

[uppityperson]

88. That is very good.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

96. I wonder if a GPRS link has bandwidth enough for that? -nt

[EFerrari]

76. kick

[ptvet]

78. SportsShooter is on this as well....

http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=2...

Thanks for the update Raging

[wicket]

79. Oh boy

[Disturbed]

80. "Resisting Arrest" is such a bogus charge.

The Police don't say what a person is being arrested for when they start their physical abuse. When a person asks questions about what is going on that is declared "Resisting Arrest". The Cops in this case need to be charged with Abuse and fired.

[EFerrari]

81. What an idiot. I hope he doesn't drive.

lol

[ptvet]

82. My Driving skills?

Not bad

[wicket]

85. Is sportsshooter your site?

n/t

[ptvet]

91. Nope

Just passing along that some of the photogs over there were talking about Rage. There are quite a few photojournalists there...

[EFerrari]

92. I certainly didn't mean to call your skill into question. n/t

[ptvet]

93. De Nada n/t

[wicket]

94. No worries - just curious

Thanks!

[mainer]

89. Did you see the Freeper comment about DU?

It was in the comments section of the Miami Herald site. I didn't know we were all a bunch of treasonous weirdos investigated by the Secret Service!


"This article is about a known traitor who is from Democrat Underground, a treasonous site that has been investigated by the Secret Service and the FBI for threats against the national leaders. The Miami Herald has been notified that they are attempting to make false charges against the Miami Police.

Obviously the cops felt that they needed to control the small area around them while they were doing their investigation. They had no idea who this traitor really was and therefore could not determine if he was a threat to them or not. Better safe than sorry.

These same traitors will call a cop at the first sight of any political confrontation in the street too.

Posted by: Jose Narof | February 28, 2007 at 12:33 AM"

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90. The real traitor is the man who does not believe in the First Amendment