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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:03 PM
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Anyone else notice something different about R. Maddow?
How can I bring this up and not seem sexist or infantile...

I'm wondering if maybe she might be heading for her own show on MSNBC or something and here's why:

Anyone else notice how her "physical" appearance has changed while on MSNBC? She is growing out her hair and wearing more make up - i.e....sexing it up.

(I'm really not trying to be disgusting or out of line - I'm just wondering.)
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:04 PM
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1. she's dressing for tv instead of the radio
someone made a joke about it on her show
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:30 PM
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41. I don't think she's quite at the TV tart stage, either
She looks professional to me. And I think she's awfully smart and well-spoken.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:06 PM
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2. She's on TV........
and someone is dressing her and making her up. *Shrug* It's optics...I like her style, but she can look like a kindergartner!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:06 PM
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3. she would be very welcome. I like her thinking.
Good poise, well informed, educated, nice voice, and she does not cave with assholes interrupting her.

plus, she likes women, and so do I. We just don't compete for the same ones.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:07 PM
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4. "she might be heading for her own show"
she's got my vote...

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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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9. i would love that!
Hopefully she'd replace that slimeball Tucker.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:08 PM
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5. It is not sexist or infantile to see
that Rachel, a lesbian, may not have originally opted for what you may call a "hollywood polished look". She tended to minimize make up and had a short hair cut, but if she needs to adapt to the corporate look to get her incredibly brilliant and well thought arguments out...i don't care. She is one of the best out there...Go Rachel.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:12 PM
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7. Now I have to admit I posted in haste after reading
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:12 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
the first few lines of your post which make perfect sense after reading it in its entirety.

:blush: sorry.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:34 PM
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47. No worries at all
it can be a hot topic. Should women, a lesbian woman, in this case be forced to adopt a more "acceptabe" image? Personally, hell no. She is who she is and damn anyone to make her conform. On the other hand, would a small shift in self image work to a greater good, that being her message. I say sure. As long as she does not comprimise her core beliefs, I think it good practice to adapt to what works as opposed to remaining rigid in a way that works against us.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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8. Agreed!
As long as the makeup doesn't rot that amazing mind of hers, who cares!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:36 PM
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37. She also has very pretty features, just naturally.
Makeup enhances her looks of course, but she is quite classically beautiful in her own right. I think she comes across as an extremely intelligent and actually nice person, who just happens to be blessed with "good" looks!
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:31 PM
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46. no argument there
she has incredible spirit and that shines thru regardless of her makeup, but unfortunately much of America may expect a "corporate polished" look. Crap, but if she is able to reach more viewers with her powerful message, I support it.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:12 PM
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6. She is smart and appealing. Makeup does not change people
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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10. if a little makeup will bring her to the masses
than pile it on!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:31 PM
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11. Someone posted the other day that she has a PhD in Political Science -- is this true?
Love me some Rachel. :loveya:

I would be elated if they gave her a show.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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17. Rhodes Scholarship used to get PhD in Political Science Lincoln College, Oxford University - I like
her a lot for both personality and sharp mind (lives down the road with her mate in "central" Mass)

If I was younger and she wasn't gay .... sigh - but she is a very nice 36 year old lady.

I just wish she was not so harsh about Hillary - but she did have the guts to tell Tweety that part of the reason women came back to Hillary was his unfairness about Hillary - how can you not love her!

:-)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:55 PM
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23. Thanks for that. Much respect for RM here
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:11 PM
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27. Harrumph.. Little Miss Hoity Toity, that one..
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:11 PM by SoCalDem
Rhodes scholar..Schmodes Scholar..

Rush has an advanced degree from the EIB School of Broadcasting.. with emphasis on the E-for excellence

a *Phd..in fact






Puerile hateful diatribes


in case you missed it.. :sarcasm:... I realize this is Primary Season..habitat of many long-knives
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:45 PM
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18. Yup. She sure do.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:46 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
PhD in PolySci. I think she said she went to Georgetown on her show, many moons ago.

They do not hand out those degrees in the student union cafeteria line, either.

Have you caught the people hatin' on her around here lately? It's quite...sad, really.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:56 PM
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24. Fortunately, I missed that.
I love me some Rachel. Glad I didn't see the slams.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:48 PM
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31. really?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:50 PM by selador
wow. hatin on her?

rachel is (imo) the BEST out there.

smart, but not pretentious and "academic" sounding. wonkish, culturally tuned in, and a very broad encompassing thinker. she also articulates her ideas very well, without excess verbosity.

imo, she is just an outstanding voice for the left.

i like the fact that she can engage with all sorts- she was good on tucker, she's good with those on the left AND on the right.

i don't think there is anybody else in her league. to me, she is just a step above the others.

and of course, they are going to "gussy her up" a little. i have no problem with that whatsoever. it doesn't make her commentary any less insightful. she is not going to turn into (lord forbid) katie couric just because she's got a little rouge on or something.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:18 PM
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28. .
"A graduate of Castro Valley High School in Castro Valley, California, Maddow later obtained a degree in public policy from Stanford University in 1994. She then received a Rhodes Scholarship in 1995 and used it to obtain a Ph.D. in political science from Lincoln College, Oxford University. Maddow is believed to be the first openly gay American to be awarded a Rhodes Scholarship.<3><4>

"Her political activism has focused on AIDS and prisoners' rights, especially the prevention of the spread of HIV and AIDS in prisons. She is also an outspoken advocate for gay and lesbian issues, including same-sex marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:32 PM
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12. Oh yeah, they've "softened" up her for TV
for sure. But then again, if you've ever seen a tv "personality" off air, you wouldn't believe the makeup they shellac on the male anchors either.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:37 PM
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13. Glad to read...
people didn't take my OP as offensive...

I hope she does get a show on MSNBC. Hopefully sooner than later these damn networks will understand that there is a place for our views.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:39 PM
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14. She got a makeover?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:43 PM
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15. Eh.
:shrug:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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16. She's in the tank for the empty suit - same as everyone else on MSBHO.
So much for integrity.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:47 PM
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19. she has gotten unfairly harsh about Hillary in last 10 days - but I was hoping it was just stress
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:51 PM
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40. Hillary was the darling of the media the past two years. Now that she's
being more closely looked at with a serious eye, they scream unfair!
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cseper Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:02 PM
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44. Hillary has never been darling of the media! N/T
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:48 PM
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20. What?
:rofl:

Just quit it. You're killin' me here.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:51 PM
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21. Has she got pretty hair and makeup like Brian Williams?



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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:07 PM
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26. Brian Williams who listens to Rush every day wanted
to send her to Ted Haggart's school of Counseling but Rachel said Fuck you Brian.
That part isn't true, but he is a Rush Fan.





From the December 26, 2004, interview:

WILLIAMS: I do listen to Rush. I listen to it from a radio in my office, or depending on my day, if I'm in the car, I will listen to Rush. And he will tell you I've been listening for years. I think it's my duty to listen to Rush. I think Rush has actually yet to get the credit he is due, because his audience for so many years felt they were in the wilderness of this country. No one was talking to them.

<...>

Rush said to millions of Americans, you have a home. Come with me. For three hours a day you can listen and hear the like-minded calling in from across the country,
and I'll read to you things perhaps you didn't see that are out there. I think Rush gave birth to the FOX News Channel. I think Rush helped to give birth to a movement. I think he played his part in the Contract with America. So I hope he gets his due as a broadcaster.


http://mediamatters.org/items/200501240007



Brian Williams: Republicans' "go-to network anchor"? : http://mediamatters.org/items/200502070007


Brian Williams loaded Rush type questions to Democratic Candidates:

Here is a sample:

WILLIAMS: Senator Biden, a question for you. A friend of mine who's in the leadership of the Democratic Party says that if the party goes down a third straight time, what will happen is what he defined as modern-day extinction of the Democratic Party.

WILLIAMS: Senator Dodd, same question. How has this label been attached to the Democratic Party, that the Republicans will protect America best?
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh043007.shtml

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:52 PM
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22. She earning enough money to dress well.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:06 PM
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25. I like Rachel for what she has to say
I don't pay any attention to how she looks or what she wears.
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proudleftists Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:25 PM
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29. Rachal @ 36 is.......
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:35 PM by proudleftists
a little too young for this 60 year old lesbian, but she sure
has more on the ball than Matthews and those other jackasses
@ MSNBC. Olbermann is by far the best.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:32 PM
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30. When she is on TV with other talking heads
and she talks, it is as if suddenly there is enough oxygen in the room to support intelligent life.

I love her spicy brains.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:15 AM
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32. She's very attractive, which is a distinct advantage on TV. And those brains! She is far from being
... anybody's idea of a bimbo or spokesmodel reading the Teleprompter. I hope she does get her own show, but in the meantime I'm very glad she gets a lot of time with KO.

Hekate

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:46 AM
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33. If she has to wear a thong to get on TV then I hope she does it - Whatever it takes.
To have the truth told is the point and she is a wonderful messenger.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:50 AM
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34. I barely notice what she wears or puts on her face
She is the most intelligent person on GEM$NBC. She is that rare guest who actually knows what she's talking about.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:31 PM
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36. I think Keith Olbermann had a lot to do with her
getting a start since she started on his show.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:50 PM
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43. Actually, Tucker gave her the big break.
She spoke about it on her show, after he was a guest. Rachel is a totally class act.

--IMM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:25 PM
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45. 100% correct n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:09 AM
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35. I hope she gets her own show and they give Tucker the boot
Rachel is so much better.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:41 PM
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38. That would be great
I would like her to team up with Sam Seder to balance out
the right wing on political commentary, during the election coverage.
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dogpatch Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:46 PM
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39. from one semi lipstick lesbian...
My girlfriend and I think she's not only super smart, but hot too!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:34 PM
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42. I'm sure the word came down from Immelt and/or Zucker
to 'feminize' her....they probably did a focus group and discovered she was a tad too butch. I wish they would form a focus group of women to discuss the 'looks' of some of the guys on MSNBC. Give Tweety a damn paper bag, would you, Zucker?

I hate corporations...in particular GE and the people who run it.
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