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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:30 PM
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Hello President Gore: Clinton adviser says neither Obama or Clinton may clinch nom on first ballot
http://www.newsweek.com/id/119851/page/1

What happens if the superdelegates are just like the rest of the votersi.e., they can't definitively decide between these two candidates? "What happens if they split the superdelegates?" asks an adviser to the Clinton campaign. The roughly 350 superdelegates who have not yet endorsed are all free agents. There's nothing that says they have to act in concert, and they'll work to avoid anything that fuels conspiracy theories. "My real worry is there is no back room," says this adviser. Clinton says she'll go all the way to the convention in August. If there's a stalemate, the superdelegates could decide to pass on the first ballot to test the candidates' strength at that juncture. We could then be way back to the future, the first time in the modern reform age that a candidate is not chosen on the first ballot.

If that happens, the convention could turn to a compromise candidate. Al Gore is the most obvious and perhaps the only contender who could head off a complete meltdown in the party. After all, he already won the popular vote for the presidency. It was only because of a fluke at the Supreme Court that he was denied his turn at the wheel. No one could deny that he's ready on day one to assume the presidency. "It's the rational choice if this turns into a goddamn mess, which it could," says the Clinton adviser, who doesn't want to be quoted seeming to waver about Clinton's chances of securing the nomination.

Gore has kept his silence throughout the Democratic nominating season. But his name will surely surface as his party ponders the possibility that they will not have a nominee by the time the convention rolls aroundespecially since John McCain enjoys a huge head start in launching his general-election campaign. We have the Ted Kennedy forces to thank for the freedom of choice that all delegates enjoy, not just the supers. In 1980, Kennedy argued for an open convention, while President Carter was determined to keep convention delegates bound. With a 600-delegate margin over Kennedy, Carter prevailed. As a result, any delegate voting against the candidate he or she was elected to represent could be replaced by an alternate and thrown off the convention floor. The rule was strict and enforceable. Kennedy couldn't dislodge any of the Carter delegates. Two years later, after Carter lost the election, the phrase "in all good conscience" was inserted into the rule, belatedly giving delegates the latitude Kennedy had sought.

What does that phrase mean? In the eyes of the Clintonites, it holds the promise of some room to maneuver en route to the nomination. By the time August rolls around, if public opinion polls show John McCain beating Obama by 15 points, then what does a delegate or a superdelegate "in all good conscience" do? This week's general-election matchups with John McCain have Obama up by 12 points and Clinton up by 6, but that could change with Clinton pounding away at Obama's inexperience on national security. She's shameless, telling a military audience this week that she and McCain bring a lifetime of experience to the job of commander in chief, while all Obama brings is a speech. An unbloodied Obama fares better against McCain, but where will he be after Clinton is through with him?

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:33 PM
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1. Hillary is behind in states, votes, delegates and money. She needs to stop trying to kneecap him.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:34 PM
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2. obama is weak
if he was the real deal, why didn't he win Ohio and Texas?

Cry baby whining about Hillary being mean won't work.

There's not cry baby whining when he loses in Novemeber. Just recriminations.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:36 PM
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5. If Hillary is the real deal...
Why didn't she win the thirty states she has already lost?
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:39 PM
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6. she's winning the states democrats need to win in the general election
most of the states obama won are not important.

If Hillary wins Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, she's the president. How hard is that to understand?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:44 PM
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7. He did win in Texas
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:34 PM
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3. Chigaco 1968, but call me a reality based person
by the way, that will be a damn gift to the Republicans who should NOT win even a dog catcher election

Moreover Al has repeatedly said, NYET... why is this so hard for folks to get I just don't understand.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:34 PM
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4. I still think it's a joke that Hillary thinks she has as much experience
as McCain in foreign affairs. I think Hillary Clinton is in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's or something.

She has to be to make a statement that stupid.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:45 PM
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8. GD-Primaries or bust, por favor....
Adieu!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:51 PM
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9. Please post discussion about Democratic primary topics in
the General Discussion - Primaries forum.

Thanks!
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