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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:09 AM
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Bush Vetoes Bill Banning Torture - CBS news
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 AM by SpiralHawk
Reposted from LBN - original post by Scurillous

Source: CBS News

Says CIA May Need To Use Harsh Interrogation Techniques That Critics Call Black Mark On America

<snip>

"President George W. Bush said Saturday he vetoed legislation that would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods such as waterboarding to break suspected terrorists because it would end practices that have prevented attacks.

"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror," Mr. Bush said in his weekly radio address taped for broadcast Saturday. "So today I vetoed it."

The bill he rejected provides guidelines for intelligence activities for the year and has the interrogation requirement as one provision. It cleared the House of Representatives in December and the Senate last month.

"This is no time for Congress to abandon practices that have a proven track record of keeping America safe," the president lied.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/08/national/main...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:10 AM
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1.  "How perfectly evil. Mars is opposite Pluto today." - Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:17 AM by SpiralHawk
"The perfect OCCULT Celestial Signature for an unmitigated anti-American, antiChristian Act of Evil, by a republicon Skull & Boner occultist!"

- Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*


* Courageously channeled by Spiral Hawk, who took the PPP (Proper Prophylactic Precaution) of consuming 1/2 dozen cream-filled doughnuts beforehand to protect the purity of his Precious Bodily Fluids before entering the darkest recesses of the occult republicon netherworld.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:11 AM
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2. just when you thought
his "legacy" couldn't get any worse.

History will excoriate as well as ridicule him.

:nuke:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 AM
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3. I'm convinced that he's evil.
I don't think that of many people, but this guys fits the description.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:17 AM
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4. the democratic nominee should assure the people they will overturn this as soon as elected
he shits on the constitution daily
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:19 AM
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5. All Americans should rise up and DEMAND that Congress override this evil act
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:21 AM by SpiralHawk
No torture in our names.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:21 AM
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6. President POS .......
This is the so-called "Leader of the Free World." A torture advocate. ....... This country is under the rule of absolute sociopaths.


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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:27 AM
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7. Thumbing his nose (again) at the international court?
Proclaiming that the US is above the Geneva Conventions...
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:28 AM
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8. I'm so proud.
:sarcasm:
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:51 AM
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9. I wonder if the Eurpoean Court of Human Rights is catching this?
Perhaps this hemisphere may need one. War Criminal in Chief doesn't that make you feel proud to be an American?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:17 AM
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10. Every moral American needs to demand that this Veto be overridden
Or be complicit in torture done in our names.
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:02 PM
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11. Awful
We must demand that congress override this veto.

One of the most valuable tools in the war on terror? No sir -- torture. It is torture.

"President Bush's veto will be one of the most shameful acts of his presidency. ... It will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a serious stain on the good name of America in the eyes of the world." Senator Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.

horseshoecrab
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:06 PM
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12. As the twig is bent...
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 12:07 PM by SpiralHawk
So many generations of occult Skull & Boner Bush boyOs...leading to this...the shame of our nation...

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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:00 PM
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13. So the tree inclines. ~Virgil

3 generations? (and now, partnered with Moon?)

Virgil also said: "Come what may, all bad fortune is to be conquered by endurance."

We need to endure until we win. Tell them: Override the veto! No torture in our names. None.


horseshoecrab
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:44 PM
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14. kick, on account of No US Citizen should be able to say they did not know
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 07:44 PM by SpiralHawk
That the occult repulicon homelander hate-and-fear freaks were inflicting horrible inhumane and illegal torture in their name.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:47 AM
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15. Sunday kick, on account of No US Citizen should be able to say they did not know
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 08:53 AM by SpiralHawk
I ask that we not turn our back on this travesty of morality and justice, this violation of all decency by the corrupt republicon Imperial Administration of Commander AWOL Bush.

We must mobilize and demand the Congress repudiate this heinous Veto, or we are all complicit by our silence.

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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 AM
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16. Sunday kick with toll free number for Congress

To call your U.S. Representative in Congress or your two US Senators, you can call the call the U.S. Capitol switchboard at (1-202)224-3121 or toll free at 1-800-962-3524 and ask for your congressperson or Senator(s). The switchboard operator will put you through. You can also ask the Capitol switchboard operator for the fax numbers for your reps/senators.


This is the time and this is the issue. No torture in our names!

horseshoecrab
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:43 AM
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17. Thank you Horsehoecrab. That helps make it easy for us to kick Congress into gear
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:44 AM by SpiralHawk
I hope many will raise their voices.
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:37 PM
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20. I hope so too
Glad to help, SpiralHawk.

Imagine someday any of us being called a "good American" who went along with the torture policy of the US.


If anyone has never called a congressperson's office:
Tell them your name and that you're a constituent and that you vote.
Ask what the rep's/senator's position is on overturning the veto and how they intend to get involved in doing that.
Tell them in your own words why torture as a US policy is so completely unacceptable to you and why this is where you are drawing the line.
Thank them for listening.

Three phone calls. Add Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and that's 5 phone calls. Maybe twenty minutes out of our lives.

No torture!

horseshoecrab
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:54 AM
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18. K&R
sorta of. I didn't see this yesterday. Once again Bush has shown how immoral he is. Congress must over ride his veto. If they can muster the courage to do it once, maybe they can get some other things over turned. Torture doesn't work.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:56 AM
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19. whether we torture or not--IT CAN'T BE US POLICY
He is making criminals of us all in order to escape responsibility himself. Who will stand up and say NO! THAT IS YOUR CRIME, NOT OURS!!

I'm looking at you, Harry Reid, sigh.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:26 AM
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21. Monday morning kick - because torture is EVIL
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 06:31 AM by SpiralHawk
Every American needs to know about the Bush-republicon veto, and TAKE A STAND on this. Make Congress overturn this evil republicon scab on the soul of our nation.

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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:44 PM
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22. Monday afternoon kick
Because torture is most definitely still evil.

horseshoecrab
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:50 PM
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24. McSame, the Hypocrite, agreed with Busholini.
Busholini & his Torture advocates keep claiming that Torture has prevented
terrorist attacks. Where is the proof of that claim?
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:49 PM
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23. Because if torture was banned he wouldn't be allowed to speak in public
hearing his idiotspeak is the worst torment anyone can experience
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:30 PM
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25. Email from Ted Kennedy about the veto
Dear ,

On Saturday, President Bush vetoed legislation that would have banned the U.S. government from using waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation techniques."

This veto is one of the most shameful acts of his presidency.

Unless Congress overrides the veto, this will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a serious stain on the good name of America in the eyes of the world.

There's never been a more important time to take a stand again torture.

You've already signed my petition - now ask your friends, family members and colleagues to sign it too:

http://www.democraticmajority.com/notorture

Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,

Senator Edward M. Kennedy
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