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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:53 PM
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McCain "will not surrender to al-Qaida." Oh beautiful, for spacious motherf**king skies.




Does McCain really know better?
By: Steve Benen on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 at 4:00 PM - PST

During his dust-up with Barack Obama yesterday over Iraq, John McCain said:

y friends, if we left, they (al-Qaida) wouldnt be establishing a base, McCain said Wednesday. Theyd be taking a country, and Im not going to allow that to happen, my friends. I will not surrender. I will not surrender to al-Qaida.

Now, McCain fancies himself something of an expert on matters regarding the military, national security, and foreign policy, which makes it all the more interesting when he says dumb things that dont make any sense.

AQI cant take a country, and certainly cant take Iraq. McCain hasnt shown up for work in a while, so perhaps hes missed some briefings, but the reality is AQI has no real allies in Iraq. The Kurds have no use for them, the Shiite majority has no use for murderous Sunni jihadists running around their country, and Sunnis have been rising up against AQI since before the surge even began. If we left, al Qaeda would take Iraq? Not in this reality, it wont.

Times Joe Klein notes how wrong McCain is, and adds, The sadness here is that McCain knows better. But does he really?

Klein argued:

The sadness here is that McCain knows better. He knows the complexities of the world, and the region. But I suspect hes overplaying his Iraq hand in order to win favor with the wingnuts in his party. That is extremely unfortunate: As McCain should know better than anyone, it is extremely dishonorable for politicians to play bloody-shirt games when the nation is at war.

There may be some truth to this. McCain is going out of his way to act like an uniformed hack on purpose because the Republican Partys far-right base is just confused enough to think AQI really could somehow take over Iraq. McCain doesnt want to educate them; he wants to exploit their confusion and ignorance for electoral gain. Its easier, in McCains case, for voters to be wrong an informed voter is less likely to support him.

But Im not at all sure why we should assume that McCain really does know what hes talking about. Hes offered precious little evidence of it. McCain was wrong before the invasion (he said the conflict would be short and easy); he was wrong at the start of the occupation (he supported the Rumsfeld strategy and said we simply needed to stay the course); and hes been wrong about the surge (he predicted widespread political reconciliation, none of which has happened).

As recently as November 2006, McCain couldnt even talk about his own opinions on the war without reading prepared notes on the subject. As recently as March 2007, McCain was embarrassing himself by insisting that Gen. Petraeus travels around Baghdad in a non-armed Humvee (a comment that military leaders literally laughed at, and which CNNs Michael Ware responded to by saying McCains credibility has now been left out hanging to dry.)

So, how do we know McCain really knows better? Is it unreasonable to at least entertain the possibility that the senator simply doesnt know what hes talking about, and that his reputation for expertise is a media-hyped mirage? At this point, the difference between a politician who gets Iraq wrong on purpose to make right-wing activists happy, and a politician who gets Iraq wrong accidentally is fairly small.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/28/does-mccain-re... /
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:56 PM
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1. So in November You'll Have McCain vs Obama ???
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 06:57 PM by BeatleBoot
Mmmmm.....I wonder how the Nazi scum will portray this one?


Let's see....Kerry the War Hero was turned into a Traitor in 2004.



Mmmmm......


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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:57 PM
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2. "Wah Wah Wah Wah my friends" thats what i hear.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:59 PM
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3. He'll just support wars that create new opportunities for them
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:03 PM
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4. This nincompoop has hidden behind his 'hero' status ride
for too long. He is one of the biggest flip foppin' flounding flunkies around.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:08 PM
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6. that is spelled "neoconpoop"
I know, my spelling sucks too. :)
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:03 PM
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5. I was once a fan of McCain until he started saying a lot of dumb
things. I know that every politician has to lie to get elected but you have to be clever about it. McCain is talking to the dumbest sector of the Republican party. Maybe this is his strategy.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:19 PM
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8. He got the endorsement of the Military/Industrial Complex
that means "Al-Qaeda" will be with us for awhile.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:11 PM
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7. ... for amber motherf$#@ing waves of NAPALM F$#@ING DEATH YOU HEATHEN SCUM!
Why is it that every time I see McCain, I half expect him to crack and go off on a xenophobic ("... F$#@ING COMMIE ISLAMOFASCIST HEATHEN BASTARDS!!!") rant?
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:23 PM
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9. Hey you kids
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 07:23 PM by Johnny Noshoes
get th @^R%UIY off my lawn. :evilgrin:
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