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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:28 AM
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McCain Voted to Convict Bill Clinton and Remove Him From Office Over Lying About His Affair
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 12:32 AM by Dems Will Win


This really could turn out to be the miracle Huckabee said God was telling him to wait for, you know!

On the other hand, if McCain's carefully-worded denials of impropriety are attempts to deceive the American people about his wrongdoing -- not in his personal life but in his capacity as a senator who swore an oath to "well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office" -- then he is and should be finished politically.

Make no mistake, the shaping of public policies to satisfy a "friend" who is in the employ of an individual who will benefit from that manipulation is the classic example of a failure to "well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office."

And, make no further mistake, any violation of the oath ought to disqualify McCain from consideration for the presidency.

Who says?

John McCain.

When the Arizona senator voted in 1999 to convict Bill Clinton following the former president's impeachment, he said that he was doing so because he was "persuaded that the President has violated his oath of office."

"All of my life, I have been instructed never to swear an oath to my country in vain. In my former profession, those who violated their sworn oath were punished severely and considered outcasts from our society," McCain told the Senate in February, 1999. "I do not hold the President to the same standard that I hold military officers to. I hold him to a higher standard. Although I may admit to failures in my private life, I have at all times, and to the best of my ability, kept faith with every oath I have ever sworn to this country. I have known some men who kept that faith at the cost of their lives. I cannot -- not in deference to public opinion, or for political considerations, or for the sake of comity and friendship -- I cannot agree to expect less from the President."


McCain's statement on the Clinton impeachment provides an ideal standard for application in to the senator's current circumstance.

"But are these articles of impeachment of sufficient gravity to warrant removal or can we seek their redress by some other means short of removing the President from office?" McCain asked the Senate. "Some of those who argue for a lesser sanction, including the President's able counsel, contend that irrespective of the President's guilt or innocence, neither of the articles charge him with high crimes and misdemeanors. Nothing less than an assault on the integrity of our constitutional government rises to that level. The President's offenses were committed to cover up private not public misconduct. Therefore, if he thwarted justice he did so for the perfectly understandable and forgivable purpose of keeping hidden an embarrassing personal shortcoming that, were it discovered, would harm only his family and his reputation, but would not impair our system of government.

"This, too, is an appealing rationalization for acquittal," McCain continued. "But it is just that, a rationalization. Nowhere in the Constitution or in the expressed views of our founders are crimes intended to conceal the President's character flaws distinguished from crimes intended to subvert democracy."

That's tough talk, to be sure. But McCain made himself clear.

"I do not desire to sit in judgement of the President's private misconduct. It is truly a matter for him and his family to resolve," the senator said. "I sincerely wish circumstances had allowed the President to keep his personal life private. I have done things in my private life that I am not proud of. I suspect many of us have. But we are not asked to judge the President's character flaws. We are asked to judge whether the President, who swore an oath to faithfully execute his office, deliberately subverted -- for whatever purpose --the rule of law."

Using a senate seat to manipulate policies and the debate to favor the client of a "friend" who happens to be a telecommunications lobbyist is such a subversion. If McCain did what is alleged, he should apply to himself, as a candidate for the presidency, the same hard line that he applied to a president back in 1999.


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PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU THINK THIS IS COSMIC PAYBACK
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:33 AM
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1. HuckaBOO!
nt
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:33 AM
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2. All those old Repub farts
were screwing the help, the lobbyists, the secretaries, the whole time they were pronouncing doom on Bill Clinton. Ugh. But cosmic payback? I don't believe in it, not in politics.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:28 AM
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4. don't forget the poor page-boys
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:38 AM
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3. No fucking way she went from secretary to Partner that quickly without him. She bragged about it
to her clients. He's worse than Bush in my opinion. Burn him! rec'd
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:55 AM
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5. Has he said
"I did not have sex with that woman"? The dems should be calling for an independent prosecutor right now to find out if he is lying.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:08 AM
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6. Mccain is a warmonger. I don't give a damn about his sex life.
He is a bush clone.

He is not a maverick. He is old gray warmongering mare.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:15 AM
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7. I thought the Huckleberry's response yesterday was quite interesting..
it was almost mocking. John McCain is a man of INTEGRITY. If he says it isn't true, I take him at his WORD. What a brilliant set up. Maybe Huckleberry is not as dumb as we all think.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:35 PM
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8. Funny little aside.. A man I know said to me one day he couldn't stand the
man, McCain tried picking his wife up back in the day... and told them back then that he would be the President someday... (I'd say from the story and their ages, this would be about 20-30 yrs ago).
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:49 PM
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9. Don't you know different rules apply to
Rethugs.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:56 PM
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10. SWeeeeeet KARMA!!!!
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