What if we DID build a wall?

[underpants]

would it stop this guy?

A pick-up truck carries heart shaped balloons on Valentine's Day in Cancun February 14, 2008.
REUTERS/Victor Ruiz (MEXICO)

Okay I was just JOKING but isn't it strange that a party that so cherishes "entrepeneurship" and "creativity" doesn't think anyone will find a way around or over a wall? escpecially when it is for their financial betterment???

:shrug:

I mean it's like they say one thing and yet do another.

[Ano Genitus]

1. I don't understand.

Is that truck affixed to the ground in some way? It should be floating. Those trucks are not much more than 3000 lbs.

[pitohui]

2. it ain't gonna float from cancun to the usa

the OP has a very weak understanding of geography, i guess he thinks mexico is some little country about the size of i dunno, belize or something

in any case, we should certainly not encourage fereign entrepreneurs until such time as it is possible for citizens to be business owners -- at this time, once you're over 40 or so, in most states, as a self-employed person, you can forget about being able to buy affordable health care unless you have a j-o-b, so telling people to "follow the dream" and be self-employed is a pretty irresponsible thing to do

i'm very angry that i went the path of the self-employed, it is the worst thing in the world for anyone to consider if they plan on living past age 40 because of our lack of affordable health care for people who can't get health insurance thru their job

bringing in people willing to work for nothing, so as to be sure that i and other citizens are pauperized forever, is anti-progressive to the core

why doesn't anyone remember jack london's bit about scabs, being the lowest form of human being? a scab doesn't suddenly become a moral human being just because the scab speaks another language

anyhoo the guy in cancun is actually working in mexico, so what the heck does this have to do with the price of rice? no one objects to mexicans working in mexico, in fact, that's what they SHOULD be doing

with unemployment and lack of opportunity what it is in the usa how can anyone promote the importation of yet more low wage workers and still pretend that they have an ounce of progressiveness in their body?

[Captain Angry]

5. Either that, or you completely missed their point.

The point is that the Republicans who value creativity and entrepreneurship thinks a wall will keep out creative entrepreneurs.

People will find a way around the wall. So, why do Republicans think a wall is the end all solution?



That, or *I* totally missed the point. :-)

[pitohui]

6. lack of health insurance kills citizen entrepreneurs

so you think it is ok then that citizens are punished so brutally for having dreams and being entrepreneurs

is having a cheap scab worker to mow your lawn that important to you that i must do without fair pay and without health insurance forever?

i got the point, all right, the poster is pro scrab and i'm anti scab

believe it or not, americans work hard and have dreams too and for that they are punished

[Virginia Dare]

13. No, the point is that a wall is not going to solve this problem..

unless you think it will?

[underpants]

12. No you hit it on the head Captain

:thumbsup:

[jus_the_facts]

3. Saying one thing and yet doing another.... s'called politics grasshopper....

:hurts:

[stellanoir]

4. The goon squad in charge couldn't even build functional levees in NOLA.

Good neighbors don't need fences.

American business should invest in Mexican businesses. Employees of illegals should face onerous fines. End of problem.

This immigration thingy is just a total wedge issue and the bigotry accompanying it so-o-o unbelievably regressive.

[Donnachaidh]

19. American business IS investing in Mexican business!

Didn't the automakers close shop in the US and move quite a bit of the industry to Mexico? And people here lost jobs, and Mexicans went to work for a fraction of what the autoworkers were paid here.

The ONLY winner -- American Automakers!

I'd personally like to see the wealthy families in Mexico invest in their OWN country, rather than expect US to invest in theirs. We always talk about what WE should be doing, when in fact the original problem is with a wealthy elite in MEXICO that wants it all.

[Tindalos]

7. Have you considered the real purpose of the wall may be

to keep people in? They've tried their best to stifle "entrepreneurship" and "creativity", maybe to prevent people thinking of ways to get OUT.

[Parche]

8. We Already Did

:hi:

[havocmom]

9. Tunnels are an old and reliable means of subverting borders

1990, Douglas, AZ



http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/hot-new/pressrel/2001/0612-01.htm

Fences, walls, hell even the ones with checkpoints and machine gun armed guards used to get breeched. The only thing a border wall will do is make some contractor a lot of money.

[electropop]

10. The wall is not intended for border protection.

Any Border Patrol Agent (and I work with many of them) will tell you the wall/fence has no operational function, except in urban ares (a tiny percentage of the border). The only purpose of the fence is to be a photo backdrop for politicians.

Functionally, the only infrastructure that will make any difference is the sensor system (SBInet).

As for that truck, I hope it's front-wheel drive. ;-)

[underpants]

16. Eagle Pass

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jE_bOUpQb6MxrxSQno3N6gEdY-MAD8UKB7C00

[electropop]

17. I'm not saying a wall would be popular in many urban areas,

but that it would have some security effect there - the 30 seconds it delays an illegal crosser can sometimes be enough time to let law enforcement catch them.

But to your point, yes there are other reasons a wall is not necessarily a good solution in most places.

[theboss]

11. There is an illegal alien in every one of those balloons

Oh...the lengths to which people will go...

[underpants]

14. LOl

:rofl:

[electropop]

18. When Border Patrol arrives, they pop the ballons and scatter.

But when they're hunted down, it'll be easy to identify them by their squeaky helium voices.

[radfringe]

15. if we build higher walls, they'll just build longer ladders...

:shrug:

[keith the dem]

20. I've worked on the design of prisons, I think the idea of a wall is funny

On one of the prison's, the contractor was corrupt and failed to reinforce the wall. Prisoners dug out the grout and escaped. They had to build a new wall around the walls.

I guess the Repugs will give billions of dollars to an honest contractor like Halliburton to see it built right. (satire) As usual it is about seeing the right pockets lined with a worthless project. (see missile defense system and iraq war)