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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:14 PM
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The ONCE and FUTURE President of the US Al Gore was Right on Iraq
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 03:33 PM by autorank
This is a great day for Al Gore – people are recognizing his prescience and wisdom about many things. Too bad Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush stole Florida in 2000. Gore won the national election and was only subject to the Supreme Courts Unconstitutional usurpation of power because they had Florida as an excuse. I digress. Tonight or whenever the Academy Awards occurs, Gore will win the award and get a huge ovation and the people will respond. Not Corporate Media, they’re beyond hope unless given specific instructions like the FoleyGate affair. But AL GORE IS REDEEMED, HE IS VINDICATED, HE IS OUR CANDIDATE IN 2008.
The ONCE and FUTURE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES


Gore's Other Global Warning: Iraq War


By Robert Parry LINK
February 25, 2007

As Al Gore steps into the national spotlight because of the Academy Awards and his global-warming documentary “An Inconvenient Truth,” it’s worth remembering that in fall 2002 Gore sought to warn the American people about another “inconvenient truth,” the folly of invading Iraq.

As Al Gore steps into the national spotlight because of the Academy Awards and his global-warming documentary “An Inconvenient Truth,” it’s worth remembering that in fall 2002 Gore sought to warn the American people about another “inconvenient truth,” the folly of invading Iraq.

I am deeply concerned that the course of action that we are presently embarking upon with respect to Iraq has the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and to weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century,” Gore said. “To put first things first, I believe that we ought to be focusing our efforts first and foremost against those who attacked us on Sept.” Al Gore, 23 Sept 2002, Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, Gore


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Rather than welcome a vigorous debate on the merits and shortcomings of the so-called “Bush Doctrine,” right-wing and mainstream commentators treated Gore as dishonest, unpatriotic and even unhinged. Gore was slapped around by Beltway political analysts, hit from all angles, variously portrayed as seeking cheap political gain and committing political suicide.

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Gore’s speech was one no decent politician could have delivered,” wrote Washington Post columnist Michael Kelly. “It was dishonest, cheap, low. It was hollow. It was bereft of policy, of solutions, of constructive ideas, very nearly of facts – bereft of anything other than taunts and jibes and embarrassingly obvious lies. It was breathtakingly hypocritical, a naked political assault delivered in tones of moral condescension from a man pretending to be superior to mere politics. It was wretched. It was vile. It was contemptible.”

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In an Op-Ed piece for The Wall Street Journal, entitled “Al Gore’s Political Suicide,” Bennett said Gore had “made himself irrelevant by his inconsistency” and had engaged in “an act of self-immolation” by daring to criticize Bush’s policy. “Now we have reason to be grateful once again that Al Gore is not the man in the White House, and never will be,” Bennett wrote.

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Gore's critics were ALL WRONG - every single one of the sniveling nitwits...

...they were wrong to criticize him for his environmental concerns...

...they were WRONG to criticize him for his concerns about global warming specifically...

...they were WRONG to criticize him for his concerns about tyranny... (VERY VERY WRONG!)

...they were WRONG to criticize him for his willingness to fight for Florida 2000...

...they were WRONG to criticize him for his concerns on a proper budget...

...they were WRONG to criticize him for his concerns about Iraq...


THEY ARE IDIOTS GORE WAS RIGHT. THEY WERE NOT. THEY SHOULD ALL JUST RETIRE.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:16 PM
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1. K&R for President Gore.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:27 PM
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3. You've got the spirit...he's the only one with ALL the credentials.
I'm not putting down any one candidate, they all (cough cough) have something to offer.

But Gore has it - environment, foreign policy, domestic policy, budget, maturity, dedication.

What more does it take.

Cheers to you:hi:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:26 PM
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2. Thank you, once again, autorank!!
GORE/FEINGOLD 2008
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:28 PM
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4. My pleasure whereismyparty - and I want that question answered properly.

GORE/FEINGOLD 2008

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:28 PM
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5. k&r
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:43 PM
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6. K & R
AND THANK YOU!!!!

:yourock:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:45 PM
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7. Gore/Clark 08 K & R!
:kick:
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:01 PM
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8. Gore/AnyoneButLieberman 08
Gore/Clark
Gore/Feingold
Gore/Obama
Gore/Edwards
Hell, I'd even go with Gore/Clinton (Hillary).

Run, Al, Run! We NEED you!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:02 PM
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9. Gore is a global citizen. Time for a global governance structure.
He's the one to lead the way to creating it.

Recommended.


Peace.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:27 PM
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12. That's a very good description of him. "Global Citizen"
...good thing too, because we're in a world of trouble.

:hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:06 PM
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10. K&R. I'm a Gore man.
auto, is there anything we disagree on? I mean besides "South Park"? :shrug:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:26 PM
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11. The very best kind of man, without a doubt...
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 04:34 PM by autorank
Aqua Teen Hunger Force? I'm a believer;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:32 PM
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14. What in the hell kind of word is "Acqua"?
Are you testing me?

Don't make me get all "Karl" on yer arse. :D
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:35 PM
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16. I have no idea of what you speak, Sir...
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 04:36 PM by autorank
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:48 PM
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21. Karl? He's the cranky, crude neighbor in AQUA Teen Hunger Force.
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 04:49 PM by Kurovski
You weren't passing me code for...you know..."Project X" with that extra "c", were you? Did I blow the cover on yet another operation?

Move along, Agent Mike. Nothing to see here...

GORE WOULD BE GREAT IN 2008!

Edit: you BEAST! you went and EDITED your post. Now I look NUTS! Or, rather, more-so nuts.:spank: :D






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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:03 PM
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26. Speaking about Project "X"
Here's the hidden message;)

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:36 PM
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30. Sargent Madame X?
She's got it down and goin' on.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:06 PM
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35. Isn't that the truth;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:42 PM
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31. Say, wasn't one of your many Hollywood girlfriends in the movie
Madame X?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:52 PM
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33. Lana Turner or Constance Bennett?
Auto... you dog you.

K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:06 PM
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36. Actually...Frances Farmer... but that was another time, another life;)
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:23 PM
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39. LOL. Well she was a political activist.
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 06:35 PM by btmlndfrmr
...at least before the the lobotomy.

Cheers:toast:
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:41 PM
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49. Phyllis Diller? n/t
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:52 AM
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52. Oi! (kick) ...a rim-shot from downunder.
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 12:53 AM by btmlndfrmr
:thumbsup: Thecat jumped after I let out a guffaw on that one.

Anybody catch the not so sublimanl "W" devil reference that Pilobolus did on the Oscars tonight?


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:28 PM
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13. Gore was RIGHT about TYRANNY too...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:33 PM
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15. Gore's been our
shadow Prez but he needs to rightfully reside in White House and lead the way to healing our Nation and the Planet.

I'm going to enjoy watching the Oscars even more tonight.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:35 PM
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17. Run Al, run! K and R
:kick:
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:35 PM
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18. Gore is a statesman and the only one worthy of the job
on the playing field right now. The man has OUR interests at heart and would do right by this country.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:36 PM
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19. Great job Autorank, More links
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:49 PM
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22. GREAT LINKS kster!!! 'The Fat Man' supports Gore too;) n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 04:49 PM by autorank
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:44 PM
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20. He said Saddam had WMD
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

For those who keep insisting they "knew". Al Gore didn't even know. NOBODY "KNEW".
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:52 PM
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23. "eliminate HIS ACCESS to" WMD - "access" - Thanks for raising the point.
"Nevertheless, Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival. I believe, however, that such a choice is not presented in the case of Iraq. Indeed, should we decide to proceed, that action can be justified within the framework of international law rather than outside it. In fact, though a new UN resolution may be helpful in building international consensus, the existing resolutions from 1991 are sufficient from a legal standpoint. "

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

Thanks for raising the point. Gore DOES NOT say Saddam "has" WMD, he refers to "access to" WMD and that's entirely different.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:55 PM
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24. I just posted the fucking quote
What the hell is it with DU that they refuse to read what people SAID in 2002. jeebus
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:34 PM
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41. Gore claimed Saddam did have wmd's :
(Does not mean I don't like Gore - just pointing out a lot of people were fooled, does not make him a bad guy IMHO at all!)

Gore, In 2002: “We Know That Has Stored Away Secret Supplies Of Biological
Weapons And Chemical Weapons Throughout His Country.”
(Al Gore, Remarks To The Commonwealth club

FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE
Vice President Al Gore Claimed “Saddam’s Ability To Produce And Deliver Weapons Of
Mass Destruction Poses A Grave Threat … To The Security Of The World.” GORE: “There
should be no doubt, Saddam’s ability to produce and deliver weapons of mass destruction poses a
grave threat to the peace of that region and the security of the world. His defiance of the will of the
international community to allow UNSCOM to do its job cannot and will not be tolerated.”
(Al Gore,
Remarks At The Pentagon, 2/17/98)

Gore: “If You Allow Someone Like Saddam Hussein To Get Nuclear Weapons, Ballistic
Missiles, Chemical Weapons, Biological Weapons, How Many People Is He Going To
Kill…?” GORE: “f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic
missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such
weapons? He’s already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons; he poison gassed his own
people. He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors. This man
has no compunctions about killing lots and lots of people.”
(CNN’s “Larry King Live,” 12/16/98)

When Discussing Saddam’s Iraq, Gore Invoked The Specter Of “Ballistic Missiles, Nuclear
Weapons, Chemical And Biological Weapons.” “Remember, Peter, this is a man who has used
poison gas on his own people and on his neighbors repeatedly. He’s trying to get ballistic missiles,
nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons. He could be a mass murderer of the first order
of magnitude. We are not going to allow that to happen.”
(ABC News’ “Special Report,” 12/16/98)
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:43 AM
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63. I have a couple of problems with your post

First, biological and chemical weapons stored away in 1998 have a limited shelf-life, as Scott Ritter so ably pointed out in 2002. You give us a one-liner from a Gore speech in 2002. It would be useful to see more of the speech before anyone judges the remark you chose to cut&paste. Hate to ask, but do you have a link?

Second, concerning the remarks of 1998: Well, yes, that's why we had been executing the then 6th year of the Democratic policy of Containment, as in Deterence and Containment, including a robust anti-proliferation program. Saddam was pushed back into his borders and rendered harmless. Colin Powell and Condi Rice admitted as much in 2001 prior to 9-11. The decision to conflate Iraq with 9-11 and go after Saddam was madness and folly, the madness and folly of the Bush administration. An Al Gore administration would not have made the same error.

I might add, the very effective Containment policy of the Clinton-Gore administration only cost $4 billion per year and zero American lives.

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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:45 AM
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64. Impeach Bush! Draft Gore!!
n/t
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:21 PM
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68. Here's a link to the speech (And Gore kicked bush's ass about Iraq in it)
Snippet:

DANGERS OF ABANDONING IRAQ

Moreover, if we quickly succeed in a war against the weakened and depleted fourth rate military of Iraq and then quickly abandon that nation as President Bush has abandoned Afghanistan after quickly defeating a fifth rate military there, the resulting chaos could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from Saddam. We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html

Again, I ain't bashing Gore, I love the guy. And he kicks ass here.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:54 PM
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71. Thanks for the link
I remember that speech. Gore came out swinging, against the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war, and against the coming illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. The Rovian media Wurlitzer hit full-tilt in response, trying to paint Gore as an isolated loon (proving, of course, how correct and therefore threatening to Bush this speech was).

But he did say, about half way through: "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." So, yes, even Gore believed Hussein had some "WMD". Good thing he and so many others were just plain wrong, as Gore goes on to say, "We have no evidence ... that he has shared any of those weapons with terrorist group. However, if Iraq came to resemble Afghanistan – with no central authority but instead local and regional warlords with porous borders and infiltrating members of Al Qaeda than these widely dispersed supplies of weapons of mass destruction might well come into the hands of terrorist groups."

Except for the WMD, Gore's prescience seems right on target.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:43 PM
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51. He said a heck of a lot more than that. He said it's stupid to invade, essentially.
It's funny. My buddy had a family member that severed early on in Iraq, and my friend swears his nephew told him they found a bunch of so-called WMDs and shipped them out of the country. They were all US manufactured shells. My friends nephew told him the military wanted them gone quick and quiet.



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:11 AM
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55. Excellent point....... bottom line, he opposed invasion.
The "even Gore didn't know" is a rhetorical ploy to justify the pro war votes of those who did know.

Gore knew it was BS at the time and he opposed it. WE knew from multiple sources that the key MD evidence, nukes, the metal rods, were bull shit. So there you go, John Q. Citizen knew too;)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 04:56 PM
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25. RE-ELECT Gore '08!
And of course the DLC refused to acknowledge his win and in fact, had the audacity to blame his "DEFEAT" on his move AWAY from the DLC and his adoption of populism:

"A key factor in that defeat was Gore's peculiar decision to discard the New Democrat formula that had worked so well in 1992 and 1996."

-snip
http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAr...

This was written by Will Marshall. Who is Will Marshall?

Will Marshall is one of the founders of the New Democrat movement, which aims to steer the US Democratic Party toward a more right-wing orientation. Since its founding in 1989, he has been president of the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank affiliated with the Democratic Leadership Council. He recently served on the board of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a committee chaired by Joe Lieberman and John McCain designed to build bipartisan support for the invasion of Iraq. Marshall also signed, at the outset of the war, a letter issued by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) expressing support for the invasion. Marshall signed a similar letter sent to President Bush put out by the Social Democrats USA on Feb. 25, 2003, just before the invasion. The SDUSA letter urged Bush to commit to "maintaining substantial U.S. military forces in Iraq for as long as may be required to ensure a stable, representative regime is in place and functioning." He writes frequently on political and public policy matters, especially the "Politics of Ideas" column in Blueprint, the DLC's magazine. Notably, he is one of the co-authors of Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy.

-snip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Marshall

THAT'S RIGHT, THE GUY WHO SAID GORE LOST BECAUSE OF HIS DECISION TO ABANDON THE NEW DEMOCRAT MOVEMENT (IE THE DLC) WAS A SIGNER OF PNAC!

DO YOU THINK PERHAPS THIS IS WHY THE DEMS IGNORED ELECTION FRAUD AND ALLOWED THE APPOINTMENT OF bu$h?

Al Gore had seen the light! This is just why our nation needs him to run for president!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:06 PM
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27. Very nice mod mom...Gore 'WON" 2000 by 500,000 votes...
Funny how people can't grasp that.

:hi:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:25 PM
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29. Yep, my man Greg Palast sure did some excellent reporting on FL.
I'm still asking myself, why the lack of preparation going into Ohio in '04? They knew the history, and Blackwell sure wasn't hiding his partisanship. Anyway, let's get Gore into office and take this democracy to the proverbial cleaners and rid this county of the scum that has infected it.

:hi:

ps working on some big plans! ;)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:14 PM
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38. Palast is the best reporter we've got. And, of course, he's based in England!
Makes no sense, unless you start making sense out of the Corporate Media by thinking of them as the Public Relations Division of "Great Lies and Damages Inc." otherwise known as the Powers that Be.

Well, they got their wish, tax cuts, absent regulators, etc. and now,surprise, what they owned of value is less valuable, by a fair amount, because their choice, "W" has so degraded everything...he touches.

I say it's time for a new "elite" - maybe this time based on a history of success and integrity.

What a concept!

PS. I suspect a bunch of people form your state will hop on the the Paraguay charter flight when President Gore is sworn in.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:44 PM
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42. I keep reminding folks on Blackwell's hometown political blog that all the investigative
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 06:44 PM by mod mom
work from the '04 election is safely in the hands of John Conyers and the House Judiciary legal staff and how I can't wait for SUBPOENA TIME!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:24 PM
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50. Hey auto. Hersh has been pretty good, too. His contention today that
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 11:46 PM by John Q. Citizen
bushco is looking away from the known funding and implementation of Al Queda operatives in Lebonon in support of the Sunnis is huge 420.

Everywhere is war!

Under the bush doctrine, I suppose we will have to attack ourselves now...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 02:09 PM
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72. Hersh is Lord! He retired the prize!
He's retired the prize. I've been reading him since 1982. What an amazing resource and YES
the latest about funding the 'evil doers' by those who use them as the enemy of convenience is
just MIND BLOWING!

Thanks to Hersh for his courage and intellingece.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:19 PM
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28. Good luck, Al. I hope for the earth's sake that you win tonight; I
hope for the world's sake that you win the Nobel Prize; I hope for the country's sake that you do what is the most relevant with your future...you are the man...you decide whether the presidency is the route or the stateman-personified is the proper course. Thank you for all your contributions; you are a brave man to stand up to the criticism of the "moranic" press and just keep steady to the course. I am grateful to be in a world with you in it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 05:44 PM
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32. THEY SHOULD ALL JUST RETIRE.
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 05:45 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Hilarious, Mike. Precisely because it epitomises unbelievably economically, the most logical and proper course of action they could take in even a half a sane, half decent, Western world.

While being just about the least likely course of action that they would be likely to take. Rather, I predict that you ensured the swiftest and loftiest promotion for each one of them that they could ever have dreamed of!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:10 PM
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37. We could put together a "relocation package" for them...

Let's see, they can move to a country without extradition or face trial, yep, that's it.

In Paraguay, they would fine like-minded expatriots, don't you think:evilgrin:

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:21 PM
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44. Yes, "relocation package" has a nice ring to it. "Paraguay", too.
Your bunker is ready, gentlemen!
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:03 PM
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34. Just think, Gore could be the only President who was elected three times...
even if he only was able to serve the last two terms due to the theft of the first one.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:24 PM
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40. He saw things as they were and not as he wished them to be.
And he continues to do so.

I want my President, and my country back.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:59 PM
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43. Yup, President GORE was right.
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silverstateD Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:24 PM
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45. Please Al, run....
your country needs you!
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:24 PM
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46. These fools who say that Dems were wrong to vote for the war
are the same idiots who smeared and slimed every Democrat that opposed it. These morons who criticized the Democrats then for giving Bush only conditional support and today for having given him even conditional support, are the same morons who threw their weight behind behind this invasion unconditionally.
Compared to the snivelling stupid cowards who smeared them, the very worst Democrat was a model of moderation, restraint and pragmatism. If one allows that they believed the Bush administration was acting in good faith one can only conclude that they were betrayed by their civility, fairness and bi-partisanship, all good qualities if misplaced in that instance.
Compared to all others (excepting Feingold, and some others) Gore is a positive hero. The people who smeared him over the last 6 years owe him an apology. It will never come of course, but they owe it and I for one will never forget that.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:22 AM
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56. The apologies should start with the Corporate Media in 2000
Their comments about his beard etc etc were beyond belief. That behavior on their part ended the last thread that connected them to the real world.

As for anyone who voted for the Bush war resolution, my only comment is that there were multiple sources updating intelligence (which Gore reviewed, no doubt) and they were all over the place. The vote for Bush was a vote to let him do what he wanted. He was eminently untrustworthy even then given his 911 behavior (failing to read the memo, linking Sadam to 911, etc.) and his background, which was well known. I liken those Yea votes to the Yea votes for the bill strippping habeas corpus protections. The Yea votes then were political as they were for the war resolution.

If that's they way you play the game you have to pay the price.

I want someone as president who has a record of honesty and courage in the face of a stampede to endorse someone's violence fantasies, i.e George W. Bush.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 07:30 PM
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47. Here's my 2 cents to the cause!
Right man for the job. Now if we can only get him to RUN!
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:38 PM
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48. "To put first things first...." Right-wing-freak-show members may disagree!
“To put first things first, I believe that we ought to be focusing our efforts first and foremost against those who attacked us on Sept.” Al Gore, 23 Sept 2002, Commonwealth Club, San Francisco.

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:37 AM
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53. K&R (n/t)
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:51 AM
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54. K&R Let it be so! nt
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HardRocker05 Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:38 AM
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57. Don't hold back... but yeah, Gore told the truth when the truth wasn't cool. He's gotta run. nt
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:02 AM
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58. Now if only he could find that stone with the sword in it...
:-)
Al Gore is really something, isn't he?

I don't care whether he decides to run for pres again or not, as he has a lifetime of work on his hands at this very moment, and he's doing it very well.

Go Al! A great statesman.

Hekate

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:31 AM
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59. Why are you using this as a campaign ad?
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 06:32 AM by RestoreGore
I don't think Al Gore would approve of that. What he said was absolutely correct but he didn't say it because he is running for anything. He said it because like the eleven million people who marched against it around the world before it started, we ALL knew where it would lead... and the PEOPLE are still allowing it to go on. So what is the point of this? Are you going to say anythingof substance about the lives lost, or will you use that too just to make the greatest page? REAL PEOPLE have died in this and are still dying. So again, what is your point? Using the dead for your own political agenda?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:05 AM
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66. Here's RestoreGore, Right On Cue With The Bucket Of Water....
Oh, sorry RG, were we talking about Al Gore running again.

Sorry to bother you like that.

I still can't believe you chose that name. Must have been some sort of a cruel joke to torment us.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:55 AM
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67. Look , why don't you just hit IGNORE if it bothers your sensibilities so much
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 11:57 AM by RestoreGore
Oh and gee, so sorry for intruding on your lovefest in the wake of the real horror, death, and destruction that this war has caused that you and others use so cavalierly for your "fun talk." But thanks for validating my point. You don't give two whits about this Constitution or how it has been abused, do you? You don't give two whits about Mr.Gore's sincerity about this, do you? It would seem all you give a shit about is USING his words to fulfill your own political agenda. He didn't give this speech to ENTERTAIN YOU, he gave this speech to in essence tell you and the rest of us in this country that we need to do OUR DUTY in restoring Democracy to this country. Of course, bitch at me for telling the truth. Perhaps you should actually READ his words through one time to understand their meaning. But then, you might have to admit I was right, and gee, we can't allow that now, can we? And enough about the name already. I have done more to support this man than you will ever know and the name is totally valid. So as I stated in my title, if you don't like it filter it out so you don't have to see it again, because it isn't going anywhere.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:27 PM
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69. LOL!!
I find your posts too amusing to block actually.

The fact you assume so much about me or my beliefs, shows that you have no idea what you're talking about anyways.

There is still freedom, so I have the same right to post as you do. It's somewhat comical that you enter each post having to do with Gore, and immediately go after people when they talk about Gore running for President.

You're not even worth the bother arguing with, since you're obviously passionate about making people believe that there is ZERO chance that he'll run, and those who bring up the idea, have no right to voice their opinions.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:34 PM
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70. Oh spare me your victimization rhetoric
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 12:35 PM by RestoreGore
Who is stopping you from doing anything here? You responded to ME first, remember that. And again you evade the real reason for this speech. It would then seem that SERIOUS discussion of his words was not really on the agenda for this thread, as usual.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:17 AM
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60. Washington Post columnist and Editor Micheal Kelly found out the hard way
that Al Gore was right- and paid the ultimate price for his AND his paper's lies, aspersions and propaganda.

From Fox "news"

American Journalist Michael Kelly Killed in Iraq

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83204,00.html
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:46 AM
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61. GORE OBAMA 2008
Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)

:kick:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:29 AM
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62. Even more proud to have Gore in my sig line
K&R.
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kimpossible Donating Member (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:52 AM
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65. Draft Gore!
Sign the petition. Join the club. Get the bumper sticker.



Re-elect President Gore!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 02:30 PM
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73. the DIXIE CHICKS and AL GORE both get their day in the sun after a long
national nightmare.

as Natalie Maines said accepting one of her/their FIVE grammys, "to quote the great Simpsons... 'heh HEH!'"
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:22 PM
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74. Yup. That does it for me!
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