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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:06 PM
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2-9-2008: It's time for an updated BFEE/NAZI thread
I know that real NAZIS found a political home in the RW of The Republican Party after they were clandestinely "recruited" following WWII and given identities as Americans working behind the shield of national security.

"George HW Bush and Pro-Fascist Republican Heritage Groups" (posted on ce399 6-9-2005)
http://ce399.typepad.com/weblog/2005/06/george_hw_bush_...

"A Fresh Look: Nazis and the Republican Party" by Carla Binion (via BartCop 1-28-2000)
http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm

I've read Russ Bellant, Chip Bertlet, John Loftus, Edwin Black, Heather Pringle, Max Weinreich, John Cornwell and many others that have written about the interconnections of the Third Reich and their American cousins.

I know a bit of the history of who funded and profited with the Nazis as they grew from a small group of extremists.

The parallels of the BFEE and the Nazis are not "coincidental", they are historic facts.

It's not just the Bush family, of course. Yet the genealogy of the Bush, Walker, Robinson lines are intriguing.

"Bush Family Genealogy" (from Source Watch)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_Family_...

"The Bush Crime Family Tree" (from Project for an Old American Century)
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_fam...

It's also their social networks like Alfred Mendes outlined in the link below.
"Bush-Law in the Land of Mannon" (via Spectrezine)
http://www.spectrezine.org/resist/bush.htm

No, it's not just Prescott, Sheldon, John and Poppy, the Decider, Jeb, Neil and all the other sons of Bush's.

Today there are the New Order manifestations so prevalent in the BFEE's HOMELAND.

"The Far Right in West Michigan: Erik Prince" (via MediaMouse-check out those foundations and organizations linked on the right <no pun> of the page for some grasp of the BFEE's assets)
http://www.mediamouse.org/resources/right.php?personId=...

"Neo-Nazi Group Moves its headquarters to Detroit" (MediaMouse 1-2-2008)
http://www.mediamouse.org/features/010208neon.php

I'm beyond disgusted that an administration of criminals and traitors still occupies offices that they were never elected, nor reelected to.

I despise their universal fascist allies, the global corporates, the rainbow coalition of racists, and, most of all the hateful religious groups found in congregations and churches that believe that God has blessed what is left of The United States of America with the BFEE- people that continually lie and do evil while calling it good in HOMELAND (tm).

Yep, it's time for an updated BFEE/NAZI thread.

Add your links and comments DU.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:14 PM
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1. Waiting for Amis to "get it"
since 2001.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:34 PM
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3. Oh, we "got it" alright. Just as planned. Btw, have you given up your citizenship my friend?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:03 PM by bobthedrummer
I hope not, I hope that you're just using the vernacular from wherever you are.

Otoh, a lot of citizens that saw what was installed into office in January of 2001 have left.

Kind of like the Weimar period-only sneakier. The enabling acts here are in the form preferred by NAZIS everywhere, authoritarian legalists love those Executive orders, signing statements, pResidential Directives and ambiguous fine print that may end up in the form of private "deputized" and HOMELAND SECURITY directed round-ups of people on "lists" while entire communities are isolated.

That reminds me of another fact about the NAZIS. As the politicization of various professions in the Weimar increased the two leading professional groups that joined the National Socialists were the medical (so they could "cure" and "cleanse" with race hygiene eugenics) and the legal.

We are beyond fascism, beyond universal fascism-it could go totalitarian. The madness of possible nuclear war is here big time, so are domestic PSY-OPS and torture in various forms.

There hasn't been any money (M3) since the end of 2004-that's why people are literally dying due to witholding of services.

There's a lot going on.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:13 PM
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25. bttt with this!
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:39 PM
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26. And another k for those of us that will never forget...
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:18 PM
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2. dare you to post this in freeper land
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:38 PM
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7. I only post here. I know that a lot of other political sites have discussed what I post.
Besides, I know a bit about information warfare-freeperland has always been right here.

Why don't you post it elsewhere-it's no big deal, spread it around if you like.

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:44 PM
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8. definatly will got it bookmarked already
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:35 PM
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4. Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection
The Reich's ideological roots are very American -- the same types who brought us the Trail of Tears.



Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

by Edwin Black

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the pseudoscience aimed at "improving" the human race. In its extreme, racist form, this meant wiping away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in 27 states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the 20th century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little-known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles Goethe, as well as members of the California state Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

Stanford President David Starr Jordan originated the notion of "race and blood" in his 1902 racial epistle "Blood of a Nation," in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.

In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation's social service agencies and associations.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, confinement or forced sterilization.

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

CONTINUED...

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfg...



The NAZIs have brought a curse upon America. It's call is Bush.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:55 PM
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11. Yep, we are on that kind of slippery slope too my friend. Not by choice.
"January 1, 1934: 'The Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring' took effect" (archived thread started 1-1-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:35 PM
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5. .
Michael Ledeen: "Universal Fascism" => there's something positive about the fascist ideal. http://www.amconmag.com/06_30_03/feature.html

Donald Rumsfeld: "To the extent that nations are well-knitted together at the top ... those kinds of things get worked out," => this is really an elitist movement. http://www.avpress.com/n/sp/attack/sty157.hts

Benjamin Netanyahu: Birth of "International Terrorism" => Muslims are the new Jews http://www.911blogger.com/node/10264
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:49 PM
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9. Michael Ledeen and his lovely wife Barbara and their adult kids
yep-you know your BFEE, and what is meant by "universal fascism".

Fwiw, I'm 58 and have been fighting fascism since I was 15. I was born and raised in Milwaukee, I live in Wisconsin and I know what real NAZIS are.

"Escape to Wisconsin-like Nazis, neocons, organized crime and black ops did" (active thread started 7-27-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:36 PM
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6. K&R for those not informed on this issue. n/t
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:55 PM
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10. lol
those fib's

Love and kisses
Wisconsinite
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:59 PM
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12. "Heir to the Holocaust" by Toby Rogers
http://clamormagazine.org/issues/14/feature3.php

So glad those underdog New York Giants won the Big Game. Aren't you?

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:09 PM
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13. How General Motors and Exxon (Standard Oil) made Blitzkrieg possible for Germany

http://hnn.us/articles/38255.html


To conceal American ownership and reinforce the masquerade that Opel stood as a purely Aryan enterprise, Sloan and Mooney, beginning in 1934, concocted the concept of a Directorate, comprised of prominent German personalities, including several with Nazi Party membership. This created what GM officials variously termed a camouflage or a false facade of local management. But the decisions were made in America. GM as the sole stockholder controlled Opels board and the corporate votes.

Among the decisions made in America beginning in about 1935 was the one transferring to Germany the technology to produce the modern gasoline additive tetraethyl lead, commonly called ethyl, or leaded gasoline. This allowed the Reich to boost octane that provided better automotive performance by eliminating disruptive engine pings and jolts. Better performance meant a faster and more mobile fighting force just what the Reich would ultimately need for its swift and mobile Blitzkrieg.

As early as 1934, however, Americas War Department was apprehensive about the transfer of such proprietary chemical processes. In late December 1934, as GM was considering building leaded gasoline plants for Hitler, DuPont Company board director Irenee du Pont wrote to Sloan: Of course, we in the DuPont Company have always recognized the propriety and desirability of closely cooperating with the War Department of the United States. In any case, I know that word has gone to the War Department and have the impression that they would be adverse to disclosure of knowledge which would aid Germany in preparing that chemical. The profits were simply not worth it, argued du Pont.

Sloan had already bluntly told du Pont, I do not agree with your reasoning to this question. Days later, Sloan appended that GMs commercial rights were far more fundamental than the question of making a little money out of lead in Germany.

GM moved quickly in conjunction with its close ally Standard Oil. Each company took a one-quarter share of the Reich ethyl operation, while I.G. Farben, the giant German chemical conglomerate, controlled the remaining 50 percent.

The plants were built. The Americans supplied the technical know-how. Captured German records reviewed decades later by a U.S. Senate investigating committee found this wartime admission by the Nazis: Without lead-tetraethyl, the present method of warfare would be unthinkable.

Years after the war, Nazi armaments chief Albert Speer told a congressional investigator that Germany could not have attempted its September 1939 Blitzkrieg of Poland without the performance-boosting additive.

Dwarfing the competition

Within a few years of partnering with the Hitler regime, Opel began to dwarf all competition. By 1937, GMs subsidiary had grown to triple the size of Daimler-Benz and quadruple that of Fords fledgling German operation, known as Ford-Werke. By the end of the 1930s, Opel was valued at $86.7 million, which in 21st-century dollars, translates into roughly $1.1 billion.

In the meantime, GM was responsible for stunning growth in Germanys economy. As most economists of the day knew, and as Sloan himself bragged, automobile manufacturing created thousands of factory jobs, hundreds of suppliers, numerous dealerships, widespread motorization and an attached oil industry.

Moreover, the growth of the highway network, from local roads to the Autobahn, spurred a construction boom that spawned thousands of additional jobs and necessitated hundreds of additional suppliers. Even GMs own sponsored expert historian, who decades later examined Hitler-era documentation, concluded: The auto industry spearheaded the remarkable recovery of the German economy that boosted the popularity of the Nazi regime by virtually eliminating within a few years the mass unemployment that had idled a quarter of the workforce and contributed so importantly to Hitlers rise.

But Reich currency restrictions obstructed the outflow of cash for profits or even the purchase of raw materials to build trucks. GM in America circumvented those regulations through the overseas sales of German pencils, sewing machines, Christmas tree ornaments and virtually any other exports that would earn foreign currency internationally. Those sales proceeds were then exchanged for profits or raw materials through complicated bank transfers.

On the homefront

Ironically, while GMs Opel was a deferential corporate citizen in Nazi Germany, going the extra mile to comply with Reich requirements and making no waves, Sloan helped foment unrest at home as part of the companys efforts to undermine the Roosevelt administration.

For example, the GM president was one of the central behind-the-scenes founders of the American Liberty League, a racist, anti-Semitic, pro-big business group bent on rallying Southern votes against Roosevelt to defeat him in the 1936 election. The American Liberty League arose out of a series of private gatherings organized in July 1934 by Sloan, du Pont and other businessmen. Some of those meetings were even held at GMs office in New York.

The businessmen sought to create a well-financed, seemingly grass-roots coalition that du Pont declared should include all property owners the American Legion and even the Ku Klux Klan. Sloan served on the American Liberty Leagues national advisory board and was one of a number of wealthy businessmen who each quietly donated $10,000 to its activities. The American Liberty League, which raised more money in 1935 than the National Democratic Party, in turn, funded an array of even more fanatical, racist and anti-Jewish groups.

One such group funded by the American Liberty League was the Southern Committee to Uphold the Constitution. With help from the du Pont family fortune, the Southern Committee circulated what it called nigger pictures of Eleanor Roosevelt with African-Americans. Sloan sent a $1,000 check directly to the Southern Committee after those pictures were distributed, according to congressional testimony.

Racist diatribes found in Southern Committee literature included an anti-union screed that complained: White women and white men will be forced into organizations with black African apes whom they will have to call brother or lose their jobs. The Southern Committee also jointly organized protest marches with the American Nazi Silver Shirts.

The American Liberty League also financed the Sentinels of the Republic. The Sentinels of the Republic, in turn, orchestrated incendiary, anti-Semitic letter-writing campaigns, and otherwise provoked a backlash against Roosevelt and what was sometimes derisively labeled his Jew Deal.

True, the Sentinels of the Republic bore all the earmarks of a rabble-rousing extremist group. But behind it were some of the nations most affluent and well-heeled, supplying the operating cash and direction. Among them: Sun Oil President Howard Pew, investment banker Alexander Lincoln who served as the groups president, and the president of Pittsburgh Plate Glass, John Pitcairn. Sloan himself wrote a $1,000 check directly to the Sentinels of the Republic.

Only after an April 1936 congressional investigation was Sloans financial involvement in the Sentinels outed. Just days after the disclosure, Sloan issued a statement to an inquiring Jewish newspaper in Louisville, promising, Under no circumstances will I further knowingly support the Sentinels of the Republic. He added, ambiguously: I have no desire to enter into any questions involving religious or political questions.

Although Sloan backed away from further financing of the Sentinels, the GM chief continued to fund and fund raise for another anti-Roosevelt-agitation group, the National Association of Manufacturers. Founded in 1895 as a pro-business organization and still prominent more than 100 years later, NAM sowed anti-union and anti-New Deal discord among Americans in the 1930s through clandestinely owned and operated opinion-molding arms.

Roosevelt openly acknowledged that Sloan, GM, the du Ponts and other corporate giants hated him for his reforms and his efforts to relieve Depression-era inequities. In his final 1936 campaign speech, the president threw down the gauntlet, shouting to an overflow Madison Square Garden crowd, They are unanimous in their hate for me and I welcome their hatred.

Roosevelt added that he wanted his first four years to be remembered as an administration where the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match.

Fearing Roosevelts possible re-election, several of Sloans top executives at GM actually considered deliberately extending the financial woes of the Depression, presumably in retaliation against the entire nation. In the final days of the 1936 election campaign, several GM officials met with W.H. Swartz, a Lehman Brothers investment banker, according to a historian who studied the incident.

The GM officials apparently planned to stop investing in and expanding their company in the event of Roosevelts expected victory. Swartzs Nov. 4, 1936, confidential memo about the GM meeting asserted, Certain General Motors people also felt further capital expenditures could not be expected now, in view of Roosevelts possible re-election. Based on their plans, Swartz predicted a break in general business next year ... mid-summer is the logical time to expect it, adding, I would suggest that the rather intense political emotions of certain of these men may have colored their thinking more than they themselves may have realized.

Despite the lush opposition funding by Sloan and other affluent anti-New Deal nemeses, Roosevelt was re-elected by a landslide.

While no capital slow-down was actually implemented by GM, Sloan did continue to battle the administration. The conflict was not subtle. Washington knew that Sloan and GM were powerful adversaries. For example, in 1937, when Sloan telephoned Secretary of Labor Francis Perkins to renege on a promise made to meet with labor strikers, Perkins lashed out bitterly at the GM chief.

Shocked at the reversal, Perkins shouted into the phone, You are a scoundrel and a skunk, Mr. Sloan. You dont deserve to be counted among decent menYoull go to hell when you die Are you a grown man, Mr. Sloan? Or are you a neurotic adolescent? Which are you? If youre a grown man, stand up, and be a man for once. A flabbergasted Sloan protested, You cant talk like that to me! You cant talk like that to me! Im worth 70 million dollars and I made it all myself! You cant talk like that to me! Im Alfred Sloan.



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:10 PM
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14. Allen Dulles, the NAZIs and the CIA
Considering his role in fermenting the Cold War, Vietnam, Guatemala, etc., this excellent report makes a particularly maddening read:



Allen Dulles, the NAZIs and the CIA

Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors." Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.

-- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing

Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift


The study of the past is beset by uncertainty. Experts on ancient inscriptions can easily get into arguments over whether or not two prominent people with the same name were actually a single individual. The student of modern history doesn't normally run into such problems because our lives today are so well documented. But suppose that most present-day records were to be lost in the course of time, leaving only a few semi-mythic narratives. In that case, future historians might well conclude that the only way to make sense of the twentieth century was by assuming that there were actually two Allen Dulleses.

One Allen Dulles, they would tell us, was the head of a powerful group of covert agents who served the great American Republic at mid-century. The other, who lived and worked slightly earlier, had been dedicated to promoting the interests of the Nazi Reich, which was the sworn enemy of the Americans. Despite the coincidence of names, there could obviously have been no connection between them.

We, with our documentation intact, have no choice but to accept that these two Allen Dulleses were one and the same. But the price of our superior knowledge is that for us the twentieth century threatens to make no sense at all.

How do we begin to untangle this puzzle? Perhaps it would help if we went back to the start.

Allen Welsh Dulles was born to privilege and a tradition of public service. He was the grandson of one secretary of state and the nephew of another. But by the time he graduated from Princeton in 1914, the robber baron era of American history was coming to an an end, ushered out by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act -- which had been used in 1911 to break up Standard Oil -- and by the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913. The ruling elite was starting to view government less as their own private preserve and more as an unwanted intrusion on their ability to conduct business as usual. That shift of loyalties in itself may account for many of the paradoxical aspects of Dulles's career.

Dulles entered the diplomatic service after college and served as a State Department delegate to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which brought a formal end to World War I. The Versailles Treaty which came out of this conference included a provision making it illegal to sell arms to Germany. This displeased the powerful DuPont family, and they put pressure on the delegates to allow them to opt out. It was Allen Dulles who finally gave them the assurances they wanted that their transactions with Germany would be "winked at."

CONTINUED...

http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/secret/rightroots/...



His brother and brothers in Bones appreciated money and power, too.

His connections appreciated Allen Dulles right back, making him straw boss of the Warren Commission.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:57 PM
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19. Here is another important article about the evolution of the CIA...

starting with fascist Rome, the Vatican, and the "Golden Militia":

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1983/07/willbed...

...

The Holy Mafia

Under Casey, the CIA has continued its attack on progressive elements within the church. Casey is also a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:14 PM
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15. "Living Under Fascism" by Rev. Davidson Loehr (11-7-2004)
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:35 PM
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16. K&R n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:42 PM
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17. Kick. (nt)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:47 PM
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18. NAZIS used regional war at first, they used politicized intelligence and propaganda, they tortured
and trusted in technology as a force multiplier.

Some DUers have posted links and articles about the BFEE doing the same things.

Regional war

"Cheney+Pakistan=Iran by Jason Leopold (8-9-2005)" (archived-started 11-6-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

"BBC: Pakistan 'nuclear' kidnap foiled" (archived-started 1-15-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Politicized intelligence and propaganda

"The Office of Strategic Influence" (archived H20 Man thread started 2-13-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

"Reality vs. perception management: the tinfoil controversy" (archived-started 1-6-2006)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Torture

"CIA Detainee Torture, Memory Loss, and the Bush Administration's Falsification of History" (archived leveymg thread started 12-13-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

"In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom: CIA 'no touch' torture" (active thread started 1-24-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
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20.  Jah sent us here to catch vampire
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:35 AM by seemslikeadream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikDmb7Er0s


Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
We have the chalice to lite up jah fire
When I am nigh catch them vampire
i and i go set them on fire

i-man troddin' down the unity lane
See a deadlocks runnin' down a rasta man
Swear that if he catch him he will kill him dead
The deadlocks couldn't catch the rasta man

Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
We have the chalice to lite up jah fire
When I am nigh catch them vampire
i and i go set them on fire

A true rasta man
No go shop no bin shop
A true rastaman
Does not gamble
A true rastaman
Does not play card pack
A true rastaman
Always humble

Obediah Obediah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire
Obediah Obediah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire
We have the chalice to lite up jah fire
When i am nigh catch them vampire
i and i go set them on fire

A true rastaman
No firing they a gun
A true rastaman
No throwin they a bomb
A true rastaman
E no drink the rum
A true rastaman
Does not gamble

Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
Obediah Obediah
jah jah sent us here to catch vampire
We have the chalice to lite up jah fire
When I am nigh catch them vampire
i and i go set them on fire

Babylon a man they sing
And they blame it on the rastaman
Babylon a man they sing
They blame it on the rastaman
Obahiah Obadiah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire



Obediah Obediah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire
Obediah Obediah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire
We have the chalice to lite up jah fire
When i am nigh catch them vampire
i and i go set them on fire


Babylon a man they sing
And they blame it on the rastaman
Babylon a man they sing
They blame it on the rastaman
Obahiah Obadiah
Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:16 AM
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21. k & r - because Bush-Nazi connections are real, and the media will never tell the truth
because the media has turned it back on America, and become nothing more than a propaganda arm of the cabal of republicon homelanders.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 AM
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22. Yep, yet the truth sets us free. Why is it that those that speak the truth today are targeted for
"special handling"-just like the NAZIS did???
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:02 PM
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23. add to reading list: "The Beast Reawakes"- Martin Lee
another book on this subject. Excellent and scary. Hardcover published in 1997!

Good post. Will look up links later. Thanks.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:26 PM
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24. for starters Homeland
is a nazi term that replaced the term Fatherland.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:12 PM
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27. The money-changing corporacrats never did like 'democracy' much.
They are back in the power seat and determined to stay there, whatever it takes.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:18 PM
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28. Sinclair Lewis wrote "It Can't Happen Here" in 1935.
It's happening all around US now.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:31 PM
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29. k
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