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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:57 PM
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Romney just brought this up again.. "If you don't have faith you typically still believe in
something greater than yourselves."

AA tries that shit and it doesn't work well there either.

Sorry, I was hoping on typing something more valid here but this just pisses the shit out of me.


Yes, Mitt. There are those of us who don't believe in Santa.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:03 PM
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1. I'm with you!
I wish I could remember where on the internets I saw it, maybe even here on DU, but this signature has always stuck in my mind:

I don't need to be threatened with Hell to be moral.
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:15 PM
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4. It's everywhere.
Those that are superstitious will apply their beliefs to those who are not in defense of their own beliefs.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:05 PM
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2. Many believers truly and sincerely cannot think any other way.
Everyone HAS to "believe in" or "worship" *something*, even atheists. Also referred to by some theologians as the "god-shaped hole" in the heart.

I liken it to fish trying to imagine life outside of water. They can't - it's all they know.
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:06 PM
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3. Point.
It's sad and insulting.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:29 PM
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6. I saw a Religion thread on d.u. once titled "How do atheists think of God?"
Ya gotta love it.

My favorite "believer" story comes from working with a Catholic lady who could not grasp the concept of agnosticism -- I once asked her how she could be so sure that God exists, and she answered pertly, "Because it says so in the Bible, and the Bible is the word of God."
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:30 PM
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7. Sad, isn't it.
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scorpiogirl Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:56 PM
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11. I knew a 50ish year old woman years ago....
Very catholic, went on a religious retreat and came back talking about how she had just learned that there are people who don't believe in god. I remember thinking that she was shocked by this. I was floored! How can anyone get that far in life (living in L.A. even) and not know about non-believers. Talk about living in la-la land.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:17 PM
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5. Romney confused me
because he spoke about the importance of God in America and then a few minutes later he said he was against jihadis who believe that God's law is greater than democracy. There just seems to be blurring of the line there somewhere and I'm not sure he's on the secular side of it.


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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:39 PM
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8. Atheism is less tolerated than most other "isms" (Gallup poll)
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:42 PM by LynzM
A recent Gallup poll reveals that Americans are much more likely to elect a black man or a woman president than a Mormon or an old man. More interestingly, they’d rather be governed by a homosexual than an atheist:



http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/02/black_president_more_likely_than_mormon_or_atheist_/

Gotta love it. :banghead:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:39 PM
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9. Mitt can spend the rest of his life with his faith now.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:53 PM
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10. But the BEST part is -- those strapping five sons who couldn't enlist in the military because,
Mitt said, they were "serving their country by helping get me elected President" -- those five fine boys are now freed up to sign on the line and go fight the terrists in person!

That's the best news, isn't it!

I'm sure some smiling recruiter will be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow with his arms around the broad shoulders of all five of those fine physical specimens of patriotic boys.
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