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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:14 PM
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Third undersea cable reportedly cut between Sri Lanka, Suez Iran Off The Map Completely
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 06:17 PM by EV_Ares
DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--A third undersea fibre optic cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka was cut Friday, said a Flag official.
Two other fiber optic cables owned by Flag Telecom and consortium SEA-ME-WE 4 located near Alexandria, Egypt, were damaged Wednesday leading to a slowdown in Internet and telephone services in the Middle East and South Asia.
"We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data, everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, told Zawya Dow Jones.
The cable, known as Falcon, delivers services to countries in the Mediterranean and Gulf region, he added.
"It may take sometime to fix the cut but we are rerouting the traffic to another cable in the U.K. and U.S., the bandwidth utilization will go down," the official said.
There are conflicting reports of how the two Alexandria cables were cut. Oman's largest telecom, Omantel, said a tropical storm caused the damage while du (DU.AI :DU.AI DU.AI, , ) , the United Arab Emirates' second largest telecom, said the cables were cut due to ships dragging their anchors.

Link to entire article:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/third-undersea-ca...

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Internet failure hits two continents

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CNN) -- High-technology services across large tracts of Asia, the Middle East and North Africa were crippled Thursday following a widespread Internet failure which brought many businesses to a standstill and left others struggling to cope.

entire articl @ link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/31/dubai.outage/...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:16 PM
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1. They'll fix it tout suite. The region can't do without their internet porn after all! NT
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:20 PM
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2. How much is this costing them?
They must be completely freaking out. Is Greece affected? There's a friend I wrote to check on and I haven't heard back.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:26 PM
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3.  I emailed
some friends in East Africa at the beginning of the week and have had no reply yet. But the stories I've read (on the BBC) only mentioned Egypt and India. Methinks there's more countries involved than they're admitting.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:34 PM
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4. So far only 1 country is totally isolated -- Iran
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:58 PM
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5. I'm sure it's just a "coincidence"...
My tinfoil hat isn't tingling. Really. :tinfoilhat:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:03 PM
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6. Here, use this shampoo... made from the best stuff Orwell could cobble
together.. it will be all right

;-)
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:09 PM
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7. 3 cables damaged in such a short period?
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.
.

I'm not sure why PNACers come to mind

But they do
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:36 PM
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8. I'm middle-aged, and I have NEVER heard of three undersea cables being
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 07:37 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
so completely cut in the space of a couple of days--in the same turbulent part of the world. Remember--these kinds of cables were used for telegraph and phone communications long before the Internet.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are ships with an unusual amount of radio equipment and satellite dishes and computers on board cruising in the vicinity of these "accidentally" cut cables.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:06 PM
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10. I hear ya. Weird shit these days, getting weirder.
After living all these years, it becomes more and more evident that the Cold War was just the opening salvo of the war of the few against the many.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:57 PM
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9. I'm not thinking "accident"
:tinfoilhat:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:12 PM
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11. I was made fun of yesterday for inferring that this was anything
other than a accidental severing of subsea cables.

Hmmmmmmfff.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:19 PM
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12. Must have taken a lot of planning to get the 3 exact cables that would cut off Iran
tinfoil hat buzzing alarmingly
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:28 PM
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14. Cutting Cables, Lighting Fuses
A third undersea cable has been cut, effectively eliminating the Internet in the Middle East. But according to CNN that cable outage does not extend to Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

Is it a coincidence that these three countries, who represent the next phase of the war on terrorism, were spared in the communications blackout that is affecting the rest of the Middle East? With the reemergence of the shadowy Fatah Al Islam organization, which has been linked to Saudi Prince Bandar, Saad Al-Hariri, the Mossad and neocon Elliot Abrams, it becomes clear that the pre-invasion of Lebanon scenario from last summer has nearly been reset. Bush laid claim to Lebanon with his recent executive order criminalizing criticism of US/Israeli actions in Lebanon, just as he did with the previous one on Iraq. These two orders claimed that the entire war of terror hinged on these sideshows, declaring that failure in either represents an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.

It is obvious to the casual observer that things are really starting to heat-up in Lebanon, with the recent attack upon a US Embassy vehicle, the car-bombing of the Hariri investigator, even another fake Osama bin Laden video about Lebanon. The assassination of Lebanese investigator Capt. Wissam Eid, who reportedly suspected Israeli involvement in recent assassinations blamed on Syria, such as Rafik Hariri, is very likely another Mossad false flag attack, carried-out to entertain the gullible sheep of the United States.

The news of the multiple acts of cable sabotage are clear proof that a hostile force is doing its best to isolate the greater Middle East region (all the way to India) from the rest of the world. With the Internet down, it will be impossible for anyone to transmit video evidence out of the visually-embargoed zone, except for those who have satellite uplinks, like the major news networks, who are already under Zionist control. The depth of these cables means that they can only be reached by submarine or deep submersibles, means that it could not have been done by al Qaida the toilet, which doesnt have a navy, or a submarine. The cable cutting had to have been the work of state terrorists.

This sabotage Friday followed on the heels of another attack on two other submarine cables, which took place Wednesday, 5 miles off the Mediterranean coast of Alexandria, Egypt. The cable cut at 05:59 GMT Friday, 34.8 miles off the coast of Dubai, belonged to the same British FLAG network (FALCON), whose main line connecting Europe to Asia was severed Wednesday along with SEA-ME-WE 4, a competitors cable which served as systems back-up. Both went through the Suez Canal on their way to India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, as well as across Egypt (land segment), where it cut across North Africa to Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. The FALCON circuit that was taken down Friday, circled around the Persian Gulf, picking-up the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and the other Gulf States. Here is an interactive map from the FLAG home site, detailing the route of the FALCON line. Here is the map provided by the 16 nation SEA-ME-WE 4 consortium.

Saudi Arabia claims to have had another separate cut, which it says it has already repaired, using a submarine, accounting for Internet rumors of a fourth cut cable and the otherwise unexplainable restoration of their service and no one else, except for their Gulf State buddies. The Saudi newspaper article is obvious disinformation. Once again the Saudis are trying to distance themselves from the results of their collusion with the Israeli and US designs upon their Muslim brothers. The FLAG site explains that the Saudi service was restored by FLAG, using terrestrial routes.

FLAG has arranged part of the Restoration capacity via terrestrial route between the landing stations in Al Khobar and Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. This was executed with excellent cooperation by Integrated Telecom Company which is the Landing Party of FALCON system in Saudi Arabia.

Some of the circuits of Qatar Telecom (Q-Tel), Ministry of Communications Kuwait and Du, UAE that were severely affected have been restored.

Since Israel still has Internet, wouldn't the editors of the major newspapers there normally do their best to get such a news scoop? Neither the Jerusalem Post nor Haaretz has anything at all to say about the sabotaged cables on their sites. A search for undersea cables on both sites reveals nothing. Something very bad is in the air. Normally the Israeli press is the favored medium for taunting the Arabs misfortune. Both papers, which were used to disseminate the disinformation about the recent air attack upon Syria, are eerily silent about what is now going down.

In addition to the escalating psyops operation that is being directed at Lebanon and Syria, Israeli leaders have stepped-up their unending war of words being directed at Iran. PM Olmert used the celebration of Holocaust Day to announce to the world (in an off-hand manner) that Israel was ready to act against Iran on its own (forcing the US to honor Bushs commitments to defend Israel, no matter what).

Israel could not afford to stand by while other nations called for its annihilation... the Jewish state must defend itself against calls premised on zealous, murderous ideology, a tyrannical terror-supporting regime that recklessly aspires for regional hegemony, and a malicious program for developing weapons of mass destruction." - Jerusalem Post


According to a Washington Post interview with Defense Minister Barak, Iran has already gone beyond the Manhattan Project,

"We suspect they are probably already working on warheads for ground-to-ground missiles," - PressTV


As if Baraks charges (if they were true) of Iran attempting to fit existing nuclear warheads to its long-range missiles wasnt sufficient grounds for a pre-emptive strike, Israel has recently opened another line of attempted justification for its coming aggression, by announcing that they have evidence that Iranian rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel.

The campaign to pump-up war fever on the home front started building to a crescendo in the Jerusalem Post, on Jan 29, when they ran this article, IDF beefs up forces to thwart terror cells which left Gaza. The article brought into the cold light of day the ancient Zionist plan to violently colonize all of Greater Israel, intending to justify an assault into the Sinai, where, it is claimed:

as many as 20 cells may be trying to organize in the Sinai to use it as what one officer in the security services described as a platform to launch significant attacks on targets in Israel...In recent days the IDF has reinforced its troops along the Egyptian border. Last Thursday, Route 10, which runs along the border from Ovda to Kerem Shalom, was closed to civilian traffic and Israelis were warned to return immediately from resorts in the Sinai Peninsula. One day later the IDF decided to temporarily close tourist areas near the border.


This article was an offhand admission that Israel has an immediate intention is to finish Gaza, under the continuing ruse of fighting terrorism, setting the stage for another messianic rabbi to speak-out, showing the world the only acceptable final solution to Israels Palestinian problem.

Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger has been quoted as calling for Gazans to be transferred to the Sinai Peninsula, to a Palestinian state which he said could be constructed for them in the desert. - Haaretz


The final solution here we go again.

Link to article: http://dailyscare.com/2955/cutting-cables-lighting-fuse...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:27 AM
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19. We had a sandstorm, not tropical storm... however
very high wind and wave action...
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:41 AM
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21. Could be right, thanks. I think that the proximity of all of this, the relations with those
countries involved and everything that is going on simply just and naturally highlights suspicions. Especially with the trust of some governments now. My stand is what has occurred should simply be noted and watched. I think it is all very interesting and coincidental. I am not knowledgeable enough but from other articles it seems really strange that all these cables could have been accidental cut. I don't know. Thanks for the reply and info, appreciated.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 09:49 PM
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13. how convenient.
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:31 PM
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15. Hmm....
This strikes me as pretty strange. Will be interesting to see if anything else happens in the next week.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:17 AM
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16. kick
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:38 AM
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17. Kick.
Recommended.

:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:03 AM
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18. Omantel, said a tropical storm caused the damage
Not unlikely - hurricane Ivan cut cables for Jamaica, Cayman, and the Turks and Caicos islands.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:28 AM
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20. I am still cautious that this isn't a new kind of terrorist attack
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:29 AM by JCMach1
and one that can hardly be defended against...

Locate cable and DRAG razor sharp anchor... simple as that
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:49 AM
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25. Internet outages seen across Middle East, Asia - Update on this:
Initial attempts to reach snapped cables stymied by poor weather

updated 10:16 a.m. CT, Wed., Jan. 30, 2008
NEW DELHI - At least for a while, the World Wide Web wasn't so worldwide.

Two cables that carry Internet traffic deep under the Mediterranean Sea snapped, disrupting service Thursday across a swath of Asia and the Middle East.

India took one of the biggest hits, and the damage from its slowdowns and outages rippled to some U.S. and European companies that rely on its lucrative outsourcing industry to handle customer service calls and other operations.

"There's definitely been a slowdown," said Anurag Kuthiala, a system engineer at the New Delhi office of Symantec Corp., a security software maker based in California. "We're able to work, but the system is very slow."

While the cause of the damage was not yet known, the scope was wide: Traffic slowed on the Dubai stock exchange, and there was concern that workers who labor for the well-off in the Mideast might not be able to send money home to poor relatives.

Although disruptions to larger U.S. firms were not widespread, the outage raised questions about the vulnerability of the infrastructure of the Internet. One analyst called it a "wake-up call," and another cautioned that no one was immune.

The cables, which lie undersea north of the Egyptian port of Alexandria, were snapped Wednesday just as the working day was ending in India, so the full impact was not apparent until Thursday.

There was speculation a ship's anchor might be to blame. The two cables, named FLAG Europe Asia and SEA-ME-WE 4, are in close proximity.

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22914651/
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:13 AM
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22. attempts to get Iran to retaliate
they did this before with the boats.

another reason for the cable cuts is that the cable traffic has re-routed to the US and UK. The whistler-blower guy at the telecoms noted that ALL phone calls, emails, etc. may be monitored. But I'm sure that the Bushies & friends wouldn't do anything like cut cables to reroute communications or to provoke a country it wants to attack, esp. before the elections.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:16 AM
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23. Georgie needs to isolate Iran before he attacks..don'tcha think??
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 08:16 AM by flyarm
nothing is coinisidence..don't you believe that for one split second...

go look up Dubai and see the pictures..and see the development from 1990 to now..and we are to believe the cables were cut by accident?

Have you see Dubai and the development? and technology?

oh please georgie porgie..and we are to believe cables were cut by accident..save it...

fly
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:24 AM
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24. Iran is not completely offline
Some of the conjecture is based on InternetTrafficReport.

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm

They list 1 router from Iran and shows it down. ITR has a history of leaving routers on their lists that are no longer in production. I looked up ITR the day the first report came out and the 24 hour history had the Iran router at zero. In other word, it's not a reliable indication of Iran's bandwidth or connectivity.

Also as pointed out at other forums, people have been pinging all sorts of IPs in Iran and they're up and responding.

Yes the timing and specificity is strange but not unusual. South Korea lost 8 lines in one accident a few years ago.
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