Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Testimony of a US ex-marine

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:51 AM
Original message
Testimony of a US ex-marine
Testimony of a US ex-marine
By Rosa Miriam Elizalde

31/01/08 "ACN" - "I'm 32 and I am a trained psychopathic murderer. The only things I can do are to sell youths the idea of joining the marines and kill. I am not able to keep a job. For me civilians are despicable people, mentally retarded and weak persons, a flock of sheep. I am their sheepdog. I am a predator. In the army they used to call me Jimmy, the Shark."

That was part of the second chapter of the book Jimmy wrote three years ago, with the assistance of journalist Natasha Saulnier, and which was launched at the 2007 Caracas Book Fair. Cowboys of Hell is the most violent testimony that has been written thus far based on the experience of a former member of the Marine Corps, one of the first to arrive in Iraq during the 2003 invasion. A is determined to tell, as many times as necessary, what having been a merciless marine for twelve years meant to him and why the Iraq war changed him.

Jimmy participated as a panelist at the fair's main workshop, which had a controversial title: "The United States, the Possible Revolution" and his testimony possibly had the strongest expected impact on the audience. He has his hair cut in the military style and wears sun glasses; he walks with martial air and he has his arms covered with tattoos. He looks just like what he used to be: a marine. But when he speaks he looks different: he is someone marked by a horrifying experience from which he tries to keep other unwary youths away. As he assures in his book, he has not been the only one to have killed people in Iraq; that was a permanent practice by his fellow men. Four years after having abandoned the war, he still feels he is being chased by his nightmares.

More:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19251.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
1. The uniform military backers here should read this interview
"The United States only has two ways of using the marines: to undertake humanitarian missions and to kill. Over the 12 years I was with them, I never took part in humanitarian missions."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
2. . .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:12 AM
Response to Original message
3. Before you prop this guy up as your personal hero:
allow me to debunk this lying piece of shit.

Link

Last Sunday, the Post-Dispatch published a story in which reporter Harris raised serious questions about Massey's credibility. And, because The Bee ran an article in Forum in May 2004 in which Massey said that he and other Marines committed atrocities in Iraq, that raises serious questions about The Bee's performance.

<snip>

That's when reporter Harris called. He told me he was working on a story about Massey and identified himself as having been embedded with Massey's unit in Iraq. He told me that neither he nor other embedded journalists had seen any evidence of the atrocities Massey alleged and that other members of Massey's unit had told him the incidents never occurred. He also told me the Marine Corps had investigated Massey's allegations and had concluded they were baseless.

<snip>

------------
The Associated Press, Modesto Bee, and other papers have since distanced themselves from Massey as he is the singular person attempting to describe these events. Ans what possible reason would he have to sensationalize events that never happened?

Hmmmm...what possible reason would he have?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. He sounds more credible than the embedded "journalists"
oops, I mean "Stenographer".

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/11/14/did_former_marine_jimmy_massey_lie


JIMMY MASSEY: You reported that we found laboratories where supposed chemical munitions were being manufactured at Salman Pak.

RON HARRIS: I can pull that story up, if you want, but—

JIMMY MASSEY: Yeah, I’ve got the story right here, Mr. Harris.

RON HARRIS: If that’s what the Marine Corps reported, then that’s what we reported.

JIMMY MASSEY: Oh, wait a minute. So you’re saying you report what the Marine Corps reports?

RON HARRIS: Let’s get clear on something, Jimmy.

JIMMY MASSEY: So you mean to tell me—no, no, no, explain to me, how does the briefing actually take place? When you sit down with Lieutenant Colonel Belcher and the major and the X.O. and the gunner of the battalion, what do they tell you prior to you going into an area? Because I’ll tell you what, you were never present at any of the times when the civilian casualties and the shootings took place. The only time you showed up, sir, was afterwards, and then you were briefed. And then you were briefed by other Marines.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Why such a hostile tone?
How am I "propping up this {"lying piece of shit"} guy as my personal hero?"

Am also unfamiliar with Ron Harris, but a cursory Google search on this incident produces the usual this side/that side debate, with either claiming the truth.
http://www.counterpunch.org/goff11082005.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
poisonivy Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Also this part
""I'm 32 and I am a trained psychopathic murderer. The only things I can do are to sell youths the idea of joining the marines and kill. I am not able to keep a job. For me civilians are despicable people, mentally retarded and weak persons, a flock of sheep. I am their sheepdog. I am a predator. In the army they used to call me Jimmy, the Shark."

The last part specifically "In the army they used to call me Jimmy, the Shark." Sorry, but, what branch was he in?
The Marine Corps or the Army???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 09:39 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC