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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:08 AM
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Are the corporatist and freeper infiltrators on this board wearing you down?
Well don't let 'em! Keep pushing for a REAL Democratic ticket for 2008. Go back and listen to some of the old folk songs. Go back and listen to Seeger, and The Weavers, and Joan Baez, and Woody........and

This land is your land, this land is my land
From the Redwood Forest to the New York Island
The Canadian mountain to the Gulf Stream waters
This land is made for you and me.

As I go walking this ribbon of highway
I see above me the endless skyway
And all around me the wind keeps saying:
This land is made for you and me.

I roam and I ramble and I follow my footsteps
Till I come to the sands of her mineral desert
The mist is lifting and the voice is saying:
This land is made for you and me.

Where the wind is blowing I go a strolling
The wheat field waving and the dust a rolling
The fog is lifting and the wind is saying:
This land is made for you and me.

Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway
Nobody living can make me turn back
This land is made for you and me.


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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:17 AM
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1. You left out the best part of the song...
Many people don't even know about the final verse of that song, but it is the most powerful one. Here are the lyrics in their entirety.

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
words and music by Woody Guthrie

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:42 AM
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4. It was deleted because it wasn't "feel good" and it was a criticism of the power structure.
That's my best guess, anyway.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:18 AM
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2. When my mom bought her first house
I got her a sign for the front door. It's wooden, and totally Americana, with red, white, and blue, and a farm scene. It says "This land is your land, this land is my land."

She looks like a total Patriot.

I doubt her FReeper neighbors are aware of all the lyrics to that song. :D
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:26 AM
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3. I need to update my files
Thanks.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:45 AM
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5. Thanks for the reminder.
Edited on Sat Feb-24-07 02:45 AM by Breeze54
;)

K & R'd
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 04:33 AM
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6. the real battle in this country is not between liberals and conservatives . . .
that's just a forced dichotomy created by the ruling class and their media stooges to keep us occupied and at each others' throats -- and away from the truth . . .

because the truth is that the REAL battle is between them and us -- between the corporations (and those who control them) and the people . . . and no real change is going to occur until we understand this and decide to do something about it (i.e. re-regulate and strictly control corporations, their excesses, and their illegalities) . . .

it is indeed a class struggle . . . and they're winning . . . big time . . .
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 08:35 AM
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7. as an owner of a small business (a.k.a a 'corporation') the blanket charges
make me sad.

Not EVERY corporation practices these excesses and illegalities you speak of. On the contrary, I don't spend excessively (because I'd go broke) and I pay a fair amount of money every year to an accountant to make sure that I'm in compliance.

I agree that there are companies out there that are far too powerful. The key lies in the definition of a 'citizen'. The constitution specifically forbade corporations being considered as individuals. What has happened is that through lobbying groups, these corps are effectively being considered citizens.

If you take that one item away, you fix the problem, without creating a slew of regulatory legislation that would cost more to enforce that it would produce, IMO.

Just my two cents.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 08:50 AM
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8. Two items; The word corporation has taken on the meaning of large
companies that, have no real competition and dominate their areas of influence. It is rather like, as I was reminded recently, the word internet when used by non-professionals (and many of them as well), really refers to the world wide web.

Much that is currently legal, is still wrong.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 09:28 AM
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11. point taken, however
my premise still stands: Deny 'corporations' citizenship, which they are currently achieving through power lobbying organizations, and much of the problems we're experiencing today will no longer be problems. That is not to say there everything would be perfect, but we would lose the corporatist influence on government, which would be beneficial, IMO.

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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 08:53 AM
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9. you are so right!
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 08:59 AM
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10. They don't wear me down.
When I read something by a disruptor, it's like drinking ten cups of coffee.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:19 AM
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12. Locking
like if you find a disruptor alert on them, don't disturb the flow of the board by posting threads about disrupting
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