***** FISA THREAD #2 *******

[annabanana]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

#1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2778440&mesg_id=2778440

[annabanana]

1. Specter no

[Muttocracy]

2. woo hoo!

[Beaverhausen]

3. wow- he makes up for our Nelson's aye

[Coexist]

4. does anyone have a count yet?

where, or where is rodeodance?

[iris5426]

5. Yeah Arlen!!

[annabanana]

6. Stabenow - NO

[Muttocracy]

7. wait Byrd no, then yes or did I mishear ???

[rodeodance]

37. i thought i head a AYE for byrd (i asked on last thread)

[VP505]

8. Looks like

most of the fence sitters have flipped, Carper, Inouye, Johnson, Landrieu,Feinstein
all voted NO!

[mikelgb]

9. Craig had a wide stance on this issue....

[lldu]

11. Pryor aye nt

[wtmusic]

19. lol

[Coexist]

10. lautenberg - no

[TwilightGardener]

12. Pryor aye. What a dick.

[annabanana]

13. The well is really crowded!

[lldu]

Do we have a count? nt

[Muttocracy]

16. so none of them have time to be in there for debates and then

they all hang out and chat?? :eyes:

[L. Coyote]

14. Kennedy NO

[annabanana]

15. Salazar - NO! yay!

[annabanana]

23. DAMN!! Landrieau CHANGED HER VOT (now aye)

[Coexist]

17. salazar - no,

[Coexist]

18. schumer - no, shelby - aye

[NJSecularist]

20. Salazar - NO!

Great news!

[rodeodance]

21. both collins and snowe say AYE--that is disappointing.

[rodeodance]

31. did Landreu just change to AYE--?? i thought she was a no already??

[TwilightGardener]

22. So far, I think cloture won't pass. Good.

[annabanana]

Landrieau changed her vote

[wtmusic]

36. Votes are almost even. Looking good. nt

[Coexist]

24. did landrieu just flip to aye????

[Muttocracy]

25. sounded like it!!!

[TwilightGardener]

30. Why yes, she did. I don't even care if she loses re-election, frankly. Sick of her.

[rodeodance]

41. i am with you that thought.

[MiniMe]

33. I thought I heard that too.

Never heard Byrd vote NO either, just heard him vote Aye.

[slipslidingaway]

34. I just heard Landrieu AYE n/t

[halobeam]

35. Dkos has flippers: Their numbers are included in this list

Landreau, McCaskill and Nelson Bayh have been flipped


Bayh [phone]
Carper [phone]
Inouye [phone]
Johnson [phone]
Landrieu [phone]
McCaskill [phone]
Mikulski [phone]
Nelson (FL) [phone]
Nelson (NE) [phone]
Pryor [phone]
Salazar [phone]

[VP505]

39. What a

no better not say it.:mad:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

26. Landrou sp? just changed her vote to Aye

[wtmusic]

27. Landrieu AYE now??? WTF? nt

[Coexist]

32. reid - no.

[KharmaTrain]

28. Landrieu Just Switched Her Vote

Doesn't look good for the home team...

[Mojorabbit]

29. I just had to reboot

Has nelson of Fl voted yet?

[TwilightGardener]

38. Lincoln aye--WTF is wrong with these people??

[rodeodance]

48. she has been voting with Repugs lots

[L. Coyote]

40. Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, NO

[Hutzpa]

42. McCaskill just went no n/t

[TwilightGardener]

43. Mikulski no. Good.

[The Stranger]

44. Mikulski NO!

[annabanana]

45. Asking for votes CLOTURE FAILS!!!!

[MiniMe]

46. mikulski just votes no

Hope that sticks

[TwilightGardener]

47. Yayyyy!

[wtmusic]

49. YAHoOOOOOOOOOO!

[VP505]

50. Didn't pass

:bounce: McChinless looks pissed, LOL!

[iris5426]

51. Whew.

I just emailed Specter thanking him too. Damn those vote-flippers though...bastards!

[blogslut]

52. so, they voted down cloture?

is that correct?

[Muttocracy]

53. yep, movnig on to more votes n/t

[blogslut]

55. cool

thnx :)

[rodeodance]

54. self delete

[L. Coyote]

56. Yeah 48, Nayes 45, lacking required votes the motion fails.

[L. Coyote]

61. "People are crying "Wolf" a little too often" Harry Reid = calling the roll

[Mojorabbit]

57. I am confused

did we lose?

[annabanana]

59. we won this little one. . . n/t

[Muttocracy]

60. this is good - repubs couldn't block hearing of amendments to improve FISA n/t

[jtrockville]

62. No, I think we won, but I'm confused too.

The vote that is over was for cloture. Since they didn't get enough votes for cloture, they can't vote on the bill.

I THINK the vote now is for a 30 day extension, so they can work through the amendments and try to vote on it again in 30 days.

[annabanana]

58. Now lets see if they can close the extention bill!!. . .n/t

[Muttocracy]

65. so on this we want no because we want to get to vote for 30 day extension? n/t

[annabanana]

67. It's not the extension that we want... we wanted the bill that we

just kept from getting voted on to fail in it's current state (with immunity).. Now we have the chance to get the immunity language stripped out of it.

[Muttocracy]

68. ok, so does the vote on the extension

buy time to improve the bill? I'm still a bit confused - or maybe just tell me which vote we want on this round?

[annabanana]

73. Yes it does... This time we want "aye" votes.

[Muttocracy]

69. ok - do get it - we want aye to keep things moving? n/t

[L. Coyote]

66. Make Bush veto extending his own ideas! Right on.

[NJSecularist]

63. YES!

Eat shit repukes!

This fight is not over, but we accomplished our goal for now

Let's extend our thanks to Senator Dodd.

[annabanana]

64. C'mon! MAKE him veto the extention!!

[annabanana]

70. So far 41 nays on the extention cloture

[TwilightGardener]

71. Guess that will fail. Oh well. McConnell promised a "short" extension

in his floor speech, so I guess FISA will just have a few more days.

[MiniMe]

74. They will wait until January 31st and then make a stink about it

You know, the usual.

[annabanana]

76. also we'll hear about it in the STFU address tonight!

[TwilightGardener]

77. Yep--a few more days of "Why do Democrats want Americans to die in terror attacks?"

[MiniMe]

72. Yup, they have successfully killed the extension, bastards

I hate the logic of "We shouldn't waste our time because he is just going to veto it anyway" from the repukes. So, make him veto it, then HE is the obstructionist.

[annabanana]

75. I keep on yelling that to Harry et al. . So far they don't hear me.

[wtmusic]

87. Try yelling a little louder. nt

[annabanana]

78. It got empty down there again.... I'm guessing no one thinks Harry

will make Georgie veto

[TwilightGardener]

81. I guess they only come in to vote, and then scurry off--apparently

they never listen to each other's speeches.

[annabanana]

79. Yay 48 no 45

[annabanana]

80. move to reconsider?

[gateley]

82. What does that mean? Thanks. nt

[L. Coyote]

83. Lacking 3/5ths, motion for cloture on extension failed, move to reconsider, lack of quorum noted

[Muttocracy]

84. which means in theory GOP would filibuster, but we're not making them? n/t

[wtmusic]

85. Good--let the bill expire

it wasn't necessary anyway.

[L. Coyote]

86. Senate in recess