$#^&!*)^+$# Top Dems stall Miers, Bolten contempt vote

[babylonsister]

Top Dems stall Miers, Bolten contempt vote

By: John Bresnahan
Jan 22, 2008 10:40 PM EST


House Democrats will postpone votes on criminal contempt citations against White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers, while congressional leaders work with President Bush on a bipartisan stimulus package to fend off an economic downturn, according to party leaders and leadership aides.

Senior Democrats have decided that holding a controversial vote on the contempt citations, which have already been approved by the House Judiciary Committee as part of its investigation into the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, would “step on their message” of bipartisan unity in the midst of the stimulus package talks.

Bush, citing executive privilege, has refused to allow Bolten or Miers to testify before the House Judiciary panel about the prosecutor purge. And former deputy White House chief of staff Karl Rove was barred by the administration from appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on the same issue.

“Right now, we’re focused on working in a bipartisan fashion on stimulus,” said House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.), indicating that the contempt vote is not expected for weeks, depending on how quickly the stimulus package moves.

Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), said “no decision has been made” as to when a criminal contempt vote would be held by the House.

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[EV_Ares]

1. Pelosi and Reid find every excuse possible to do nothing. eom.

[madokie]

3. I sure hope those who voted them in office has a change of heart this next time they go to vote

by doing nothing makes them very complicit in war crimes if nothing else.

[EV_Ares]

6. Yeah & see in another post where they have taken the Miers and Bolton

contempt vote off as well or stalled it, whatever. They are hopeless and yes, aiding and abetting these criminals.

[madokie]

11. they think giving in gives them something

ask any whore, male or female what they get out of being easy and neither will tell you they find what they are looking for

metaphor

[EV_Ares]

12. Nope, you just flat-out get screwed, eom.

[madokie]

13. I clicked on your profile because I liked what you sig lines says

and damn if I don't like your comment too. The world could use a hell of a lot more people like yourself
Peace and have a great day

[EV_Ares]

14. Hey, thanks madokie, appreciate it and it is always nice meeting people such

as yourselves.

[Supersedeas]

38. when will we get the justice that was demanded in the 06 elections that swept these two into

leadership roles

[jimshoes]

2. Continuing to work with this law breaking

administration is helping us how?

[zanne]

4. Okay--That does it.

I've been giving these Dems chance after chance, and I've been providing excuse after excuse for them. Now, I've finally come to the conclusion that we brought a Trojan horse into the Senate, and out came more Republicans.

[lyonn]

44. Excuses are not working so swell are they?

Nancy and Harry and many others need replaced. That too will probably never happen. Now I remember why I voted for repubs long ago, the dems appeared weak and willing to go along to get along. Damn

No, I'm not voting repub again, but, can't we get some half a** truly democratic people in office?

Watched Hoyer this a.m. for a short period of time on the FISA situation (wire taps) and had to change channels, he is a weak willy suck up.

[KharmaTrain]

5. Now We're "Weak" On The Economy?

Welcome to the election year...and a spineless Democratic majority knee-jerks itself into a bigger hole.

It'd take a 15 minute vote to pass this puppy out, but the fear of the right wing hate machine and the corporate media rules the day. While most of us have known this economy has been in the shitter for months (even years), all of a sudden it's the big story on CNN and the endless "whos going to do something about it" game begins. Boooshie throws out his "stimulus" and now the corporate media demands the same of the Democrats or, obviously, we're weak on the economy and causing the problem. We have 200 plus House Democrats scared of mailers and emails and winning individual elections than for defending the place they work for.

Shameless...

[femrap]

23. But now the BankBoys are in

financial trouble...and they give big political donations so we must make sure that they don't lose one cent. And eventually the public (our money) will bail them out.

I don't think there is anyway to stop this financial collapse....and if these dumb f*cks decide to throw more money at it, we'll get runaway inflation which hurts and working people even more.

And another thing, while I am ranting....why the hell are they going after Harriet Miers? I even felt sorry for her when W put her up for Supreme Court. The repugnants will trash the dems in the media over picking on an older woman. Didn't Rove get a subpoena? And why aren't they going after him? Why? They're too scared of big bad karl??? I am sick of these dems....spineless, ball-less, ova-less scum.

[KharmaTrain]

43. It's Called Squeezing Up

Meiers knows where the bodies are burried. Seems like she was in all the DOJ meetings and has been directly implicated...the game here is to get her to testify. Feeling sorry for her? I'd love to see her get grilled by the House Judiciary committee and made to shiver and shake and compelled to tell the truth about what she knows. You want the goods on boooosh, rove, cheney and the rest of the regime? This is how it's done. Force her to testify about who know what and where and if there's a conflict, we now have criminal perjury charges...if she obstructs, she gets contempt and if she tells the truth, we're one step closer to restoring the Constitution.

[Le Taz Hot]

7. Postpone, my foot.

They're hoping this will all just go away. My guess is that NOTHING will be done with this. Ever.

[C_U_L8R]

8. What a lame excuse

quite pathetic actually

[hisownpetard]

9. There's no other way for me to say this - they make me sick!

And whenever I see a picture of Pelosi in the same room with Bush, you'd never know (from the way
she looks at him) that she holds him in anything but the highest regard.

What is it, exactly, that we don't know? Because it sure as hell makes no sense to me.

[Le Taz Hot]

18. What is it?

They're all sucking off the same corporate teet.

[lyonn]

45. "corporate teet", bottom line

Money talks and the rest of us walk.

[Toots]

10. "holding a controversial vote on the contempt citations,"

What could possibly be controversial about this. Subpoenas were issued and ignored. That is "Contempt of Congress" It is in fact the definition of Contempt. What could possibly be controversial about that? IMO what is Controversial is Democrats behavior in not holding those in contempt accountable.

[catmandu57]

15. These people don't work for us anymore

In fact they're openly contemptuous if us peons, they don't fear us at all. They laugh at any noise that they may not get reelected, something has got to break. Either we get them back under our control, or, we hang on as best we can and hope we live through the take over.
The way it looks we better learn how to bow and scrape, curtsy and genuflect to our betters.

[Le Taz Hot]

20. We need to take over the STATE

party organizations. It's a HUGE part of the Machine and the Machine ensures that these corporate lackeys are given significant advantages over the other candidates.

[lyonn]

46. Red States have an excuse for electing right leaning Dems

What excuse do States like Calif. have for voting for the right leaning Democrats?

In Okla. we Dems vote for anyone that claims to be a democrat and hope for the best.

Nancy has a problem hearing the ordinary people. Did she ever represent her people? When she was running for speaker I thought she was too left leaning, wouldn't get things done in a repub. controlled House. How wrong could I have been. She wants to "get along" and make nice. Sucking up to george's tax breaks for corps is disgusting.

[VP505]

16. OMG not again, I would

send them another FAX explaining how utterly useless I think they have become still are, in their so called leadership roles but why bother, its unlikely it would go anywhere besides the trash..

[acmavm]

17. Calling all Pelosi and Reid defenders. Please come to the

white courtesy phone and defend these fucks.

[babylonsister]

19. I've noticed their absence, too. nt

[LSK]

29. ok....

Its raining outside

The car wouldnt start

I have a cold

The dog ate my homework

The alarm clock didn't go off

The power went out

[burythehatchet]

42. They're hooked up to their mind regulators for some extra brainwashing

when news like this comes out. They'll be back later vigorously defending these traitors. HEY! you know we raised the minimum wage!! Just ignore the criminal enterprise we're allowing to go unchecked.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

21. give 'em a break

they just got back from their month long vacation. and a 4 day weekend honoring MLK. they have to

plan for the presidents day break. and then easter vacation and then memorial day break and the 4th

of july break and then the very difficult august recess. and then they have to get reelected.

[lyonn]

47. With a scheldule like that

it's hard to find time to have hearings. Besides, they must rush through a tax break to corps to keep our fake economy going.

Your comment reminded me of hearing Hoyer this a.m. when he was bumbling along trying to explain the FISA issue and the scheduling problem and how he "might extend the present law" for another month to give everyone time to get their stories straight - no, he didn't say that - rather, work things out. In other words no one wants to punish AT&T or others for breaking our laws.

[debbierlus]

22. Both parties are part of the same two headed beast

If we can't provide any oversight into the fixing of our entire judicial systme, the dems are pretty much useless.

If they can't even use the remaining tools available to them because of fear the PERCEPTION, we are totally, utterly, & completely screwed.

[OneBlueSky]

24. the Democratic Congress is largely useless . . . and by not holding BushCo accountable . . .

for their countless crimes, they are equally responsible for the decline of the United States that is worsening every day . . . these people are either corrupt or stupid -- probably a little of both . . .

[lyonn]

49. Hope someone tries to deny your comment

It should be interesting now that most the cards are now on the table. Hard to find excuses.

[formercia]

25. Bipartisanship

Corporate Democrat=Corporate Republican.

Running interference for the boys.

[RufusTFirefly]

26. Nooo! Brothers and sisters! Please!!!

We must strive to be bipartisan!!!

(Not!)

"Some people argue that we’re going to sit at a table with these people and they’re going to voluntarily give their power away. I think it is a complete fantasy; it will never happen." -- John Edwards


"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way!" -- Jim Malone (Sean Connery)

"Those urging bipartisanship aren't just in the wrong ballpark. They're in the wrong f**kin' sport!" -- RufusT

[leftyladyfrommo]

27. Why even waste time with this. Bush people never pay any

attention to the contempt orders anyway.

[The Stranger]

28. Criminal complicity.

Ralph Nader was right.

[JackDragna]

30. The Democratic party is useless as a national body.

It no longer represents the interests of the political left. I still support it at the local level with some politicians, but we cannot abide this among our leaders in Washington. It's time to tear our leadership down by its foundations.

[sakabatou]

31. Time to bring out the cluebat...

[Az_lefty]

32. I'm so fucking tired of Dem's who think they have to get along with publicans.

[ArkySue]

57. Gee...who else does that remind me of? n/t

[Vinca]

33. I'm so disgusted with Pelosi. What is wrong with her?

She's got this foolish notion that if you smile and sing Kumbayah the Republicans will decide to be agreeable.

[karlrschneider]

34. Cahoots.

Funny word, dead-on description,

[leftofthedial]

35. fucking accomplices

so if you're a bank robber, murder someone on the way out of the bank and the cops will stop looking for you.

[Tesha]

36. Do you think that they'll ever figure out that *WE DON'T WANT "BIPARTISAN UNITY"*??? (NT)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

37. CYA with a phony stimulus package trumps doing the right thing.

CYA trumps everything for politicians.

[Javaman]

39. Here's a secret about peloci and reid: they never had any powder to keep dry. nt

[bvar22]

40. Boy! I'm sure glad we voted the Democrats into the MAJORITY in 2006.

Think how peachy efverything will be when we have a DLC president in 2009.

[lovuian]

41. its frickin scary

it makes one wonder are we one party
and this is a dictatorship allowing King bush to do whatever he wants

[cureautismnow]

48. They must get awfully sore...

from bending over every time when it might make Repukes feel uncomfortable.

[wiggs]

50. kick so everyone knows. nt

[fascisthunter]

51. Said Before, I'll Say It Again: Nancy and Reid are Protecting Bush

and his accomplices.

[donkeyotay]

52. Unity is a one-way street. The dems compromise and the repos walk over them.

Fuck Hoyer. There has never been a time for the truth, accountability or fighting for the people the dem party supposedly represents. It's never been more obvious that NADER WAS RIGHT.

[Individualist]

53. Complicity!

I don't see how anyone can doubt that the "leadership" is taking their marching orders from DLC. Yet people will keep rewarding these assholes with votes out of a misguided sense of party loyalty.

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-...

[truebrit71]

54. Reid, Pelosi, Hoyer cowards all...This is completely outrageous...

..and will be the straw that breaks this particular camels' back...

If they allow this type of horseshit to go unchallenged then they are NO BETTER THAN THE REPUBLICANS THEY SUPPOSEDLY REPLACED.

They were hired to stop the war. Not done. They were hired to hold the cabal accountable. Not done. They were hired to restore our rights. Not done.

They have been completely FUCKING useless and I for one have had enough.

[Individualist]

55. K&R

[quiet.american]

56. ....