This may sound like a defense of Drudge but. . .UPDATED: Drudge got it right re: Obama/Clinton

[wndycty]

. . .I think its funny that so many people are quick to dismiss things posted on Drudge, even when they are sourced to legitimate news outlets. I think Drudge is a right wing shill, however many of us visit him regularly and find many of his items to be legit.

The current controversy is over Obama's comments re: taking on Bill Clinton. In less than 24 hours the interview with Good Morning America will probably air and we will know whether or not Barack said what Drudge is claiming.

If this is true will those dismissing the story finally address the substance of what Barack is alleged to have said?

ON EDIT:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/exclusive-obama.html

EXCLUSIVE: Obama Rips Bill Clinton Slams as 'Troubling' and Inaccurate

January 20, 2008 4:03 PM

ABC News' Michael James and Tahman Bradley Report: Sen. Barack Obama says he's ready to confront former President Bill Clinton, calling his advocacy on behalf of his wife's presidential campaign, "troubling."

In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Robin Roberts to air Monday on "Good Morning America," Obama, D-Ill., directly engages Bill Clinton on a series of issues.

"You know the former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling,” Obama said. “He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts -- whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas. This has become a habit, and one of the things that we're gonna have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he's making statements that are not factually accurate."

Obama apparently refers to Clinton’s comment that it was a “fairy tale” that Obama has consistently opposed to the Iraq war from the start, and that Nevada union officials backing Obama were strong-arming members into caucusing for Obama.
-snip-

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

1. Because Drudge has the unfortunate history of putting non vetted speculation on his website which he

has had to pull eventually, because that speculation is untrue. He may have reformed his ways, but he proved himself to be unreliable and fraudulent in the past. The two worst crimes a supposed "journalist" could commit.

MKJ

[CatWoman]

3. remember Kerry's 'love triangle"?

:eyes:

[wndycty]

8. Unlike the love triangle this is an interview that is in the can. . .

. . .I bet we start seeing it soon, maybe even before it airs tomorrow, like on World News Tonight.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

12. Well, he is FED little bits and pieces, I'm sure. But, he would be easily duped.

He's the true definition of a TOOL. MKJ

[wndycty]

15. Like I said I'm not defending him but its not necessarily right to automatically dismiss his . .

. . .scoops. In this case I doubt he will have something like that without it being fed to him by ABC NEWS.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

18. If dismissing his scoops is wrong, I don't want to be right. If being right means trusting Drudge...

you know the rest. :-) MKJ

[wndycty]

23. No but how hard is it to follow his track record and know the difference between. . .

. . .the types of items he posts that are BS and the types of items he posts that might have some legitimacy.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

32. You just answered your own question. THAT is why, because you KNOW going in that he posts pure BS.

Rather than him making the effort to insure, to the best of his knowledge, his information is accurate, it's up to his readers to do the research. It's up to me to try figure it out, so I'm actually going to go places for information with the bar set quite a bit higher.

That guy has the best of all worlds. No work, lots of money. He's happy to be a TOOL. MKJ

[old guy]

20. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

[wndycty]

5. FOr it to be as detailed as it is someone at ABC leaked it to him. . .

. . .with the hopes of creating a buzz for tomorrow. I would not be surprised to see this on the Good Morning America page soon.

[robbedvoter]

26. Exactly, Occasionaly he has first edition stories to appear in newspapers

It's very possibly the case. Still not legitimizing Drudge/
However, hypothetically - if this were true, it would be a terrible idea to attack our last elected president. Worse than praising Raygun.
Whatever happened to attacking Bush?

[wndycty]

29. So Obama should just let Clinton lie about him?

:kick:

[dkf]

25. Hillary uses Drudge nowadays.

You are right! Drudge prints unreliable drivel from the Clinton campaign!

[robbedvoter]

27. That's really funny - do you know how "drudge" was born?

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. What the hell are you talking about? Your hatred of Hillary is showing again:

THIS is about Obama. NOT Hillary.


Drudge ...'developing'

Sorry guys.

EXCLUSIVE: OBAMA RIPS INTO BILL CLINTON MONDAY DURING ABC INTERVIEW WITH 'GOOD MORNING AMERICA' HOST ROBIN ROBERTS... SAYS HE FEELS LIKE HE RUNNING AGAINST BOTH CLINTONS... Bill 'has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling. He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts. Whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas. This has become a habit and one of the things that we're gonnna have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he's making statements that are not factually accurate'... DEVELOPING....
http://www.drudgereport.com /

[wndycty]

35. Hillary DOES use Drudge, didn't you see this from the NY Times?

Clinton Finds Way to Play Along With Drudge
By JIM RUTENBERG

WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 — As Senator Barack Obama prepared to give a major speech on Iraq one morning a few weeks ago, a flashing red-siren alert went up on the Drudge Report Web site. It read, “Queen of the Quarter: Hillary Crushes Obama in Surprise Fund-Raising Surge,” and, “$27 Million, Sources Tell Drudge Report.”

Within minutes, the Drudge site had injected Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s fund-raising success into the day’s political news on the Internet and cable television. It did not halt coverage of Mr. Obama’s speech or his criticism of her vote to authorize the war in 2002, but along the front lines of the campaign — the hourly, intensely fought effort to capture the news cycle or deny ownership of it to the other side — it was a telling assault.

Mrs. Clinton’s aides declined to discuss how the Drudge Report got access to her latest fund-raising figures nearly 20 minutes before the official announcement went to supporters. But it was a prime example of a development that has surprised much of the political world: Mrs. Clinton is learning to play nice with the Drudge Report and the powerful, elusive and conservative-leaning man behind it.
-snip-

Democrats have long known how the McCain campaign felt. And it is precisely why, a strategist close to the Clinton campaign said, her aides had decided to use the site more aggressively and capitalize on the line to him established by Ms. Sefl — now a vice president at the Glover Park Group, the former firm of Mr. Wolfson, Mrs. Clinton’s communications director, and an informal adviser to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe. Ms. Sefl had no comment.

At the same time, Democrats said they noticed an occasional Clinton-friendly tone from Mr. Drudge, whom New York magazine quoted as saying on his program: “I need Hillary Clinton. You don’t get it. I need to be part of her world. That’s my bank.”
-end-

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?pagewanted=print

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

37. You actually put words in my mouth, even though the words I posted are right there.

MKJ

[thunder rising]

2. Howcome druge would have this and nobody else?

How did it get to drudge. If it's linked to legitimate sources quote the sources.

[rodeodance]

4. I addressed the context---Obama is Whinning and he best toughen up.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

14. rd, you owe me a keyboard, big time.

:spray:

:rofl:

MKJ

[wndycty]

17. I think calling Bill Clinton out for his BS is not whinning. . .

:kick:

[dkf]

22. Bill Clinton can Whack Obama, but when Obama responds its Whining?

Typical hypocritical Clintonite.

And you are spelling the word whining wrong. Or maybe it should be "winning". haha.

[water]

6. It would be ridiculous of him to fabricate a quote like that.

[closeupready]

7. Drudge is a right-wing shill. During John Kerry's campaign, one of his female aides

went on vacation. Drudge's headline? Something like, "Kerry campaign manager flees the country!" or some garbage like that. And the site makes money if you visit it, so stop going there.

[gaiilonfong]

9. We don't need Drudge on this site n/t

[CatWoman]

24. yeah

we have you.

[gaiilonfong]

34. and we have you to post your PATRONESS Taylor Marsh's drivel

Taylor Marsh PAID Clinton DLC operative

[robbedvoter]

28. Agreed.

[Blarch]

10. He also posts total BS

Remember this example ? >>> http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a6f83eb4ab5.htm

[wndycty]

13. True but is it hard to tell the difference between total BS and legitimate stories. . .

. . .are you willing to bet its not legit?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. As a tool, I'll bet he's being told what to report and that's what he's doing, because he's a tool.

MKJ

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

16. Good one!

:toast: MKJ

[terisan]

11. He suckers people into eventually not checking on the reliability of his stories and then

they eventually become broadcasters of his false implications.

[NNN0LHI]

21. No Drudge is indefensible so it doesn't sound like that

Sounds more like an advertisement for that cesspool.

Don

[peacetalksforall]

31. The first and last thing we need to remember - Drudge was set up as an

operative to bring down Pres. Clinton. You may think that he breaks news because of his connections - yes, probably... a certain per cent. But he's there to operate as a propaganda and hate manipulator, if not also an originator.

[Fleshdancer]

33. the best rule to follow when reading Drudge: if there isn't a link to a credible news source....

then don't fall for it. We have no sense of context, we don't know what Obama was asked, and we don't know how his comments were delivered or even if he truly said this. This is what Drudge does best and people fall for it every time.

[wndycty]

36. Kick for edit of OP

:kick: