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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:12 PM
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Patrick Fitzgerald Ties Obama to Rezko Indictments
Sun-Times Exclusive: Obama surfaces in Rekzo's federal corruption case
Source confirmed Obama is the unnamed "political candidate" referred to in document which outlines case against Rezko

January 19, 2008

...................

The allegations against Rezko that involve Obama are contained in one paragraph of a 78-page document filed last month in which prosecutors outline their corruption and fraud case against Rezko, who was also a key money man for Gov. Blagojevich and other politicians.

Rezko is set to go to trial Feb. 25. The revelation that Obama’s name could come up in court is a political headache he doesn’t need as he heads into a round of primaries that are likely to determine his party’s nomination for president.

Rezko, who was part of Obama’s senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing “at least one other individual” to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual — in possible violation of federal election law.

A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declined to comment.


more at:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20web.article

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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:14 PM
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1. Oh Fuck
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 02:20 PM by sunonmars

If they so much as tie him in , in any way, Obama is fucked.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:10 PM
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99. Oh fer cryin' OUT LOUD!!! This is precisely the kind of RW-attack shit that MUST BE REJECTED!
"tie him in"

Yup,...that would be the operative activity, huh!!!!!

Here we sit on PUBLIC EVIDENCE of war crimes, crimes against humanity, fraud, crimes committed against our Constitution and our laws and our people against those who STILL COMMIT THOSE CRIMES,...and, lo' and behold,...an individual who MAY THREATEN THE ELITIST STATUS QUO IS PERSECUTED,...by empty fucking implication.

Boy O',...the shit is flying all over and there's plenty of players.

incredible

i don't wonder why this nation is so dysfunctional
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #99
104. Go to the ocean. There is plenty of sand to stick your head in there.
This stinks of Chicago corruption to the hilt. It isn't going to go away.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:18 PM
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2. Oh shit!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:18 PM
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3. Well, that's not good. I don't see how this can be spun, but we'll see...
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:22 PM
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9. How about with the second paragraph of the article?
which I notice the original poster left out ---

For the first time, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama has surfaced in the federal corrupton case against his longtime campaign fund-raiser, Tony Rezko, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #9
22. Thats why I didn't even post this hit piece after reading it in my morning Sun-Times
All headline. No story.

Don
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
78. Let me add one word to that to change it a wee bit....
......yet.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #78
86. I'm not interested in hypotheticals
or pre-conceived guilt by association.
& I'm not an Obama supporter either.
I'm an Edwards supporter.
This doesn't change that the article is a hit piece at least the way it is being spun by the original post.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #9
87. Imagine the same story was about Bush.
Would that "no evidence he knew" line matter to you?
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #87
91. give me a break
Is your comment what passes for intelligent discourse around these parts these days?

In general, there is an obvious pattern with Bush so my knee-jerk reaction would be to not do so.

On the specific charge, I'd give Bush the benefit of the doubt without evidence to the contrary though.
Just because I think Bush is a slime it wouldn't change the principle.

You know, rule of law, innocent until proven guilty -- that sort of old school stuff.

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #91
92. You're a fairer person than me then.
But fuck you for calling me stupid.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #91
94. Well, your "name" is dorkulon
so it shouldn't be a surprise:evilgrin:

I didn't call you stupid though.
My comment was regarding your discourse.

Smart people can make stupid remarks too.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. I'm not the one responding to my own posts...
Besides, the point I was making is that most people--or at least cynics such as myself--are unlikely to believe that a fundraising scandal involving any politician could happen without that politician's consent, let alone knowledge. I am pretty much in the Obama camp at this point, but I still think this can hurt him--and just because I like the guy doesn't mean he can do no wrong.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #97
98. busted
I guess I proved my own point, assuming I'm smart that is.
I should claim I did it on purpose, but I won't.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #87
106. Imagine the same story was about Clinton.
God, this web site would be burning up in smoke. The silence is somehow deafening. Maybe this will end up putting John Edwards back on the radar.
One never knows...do one? :shrug:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #3
89. We don't need any more "spin". Let the truth come out.
:grr:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. rugh ro.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:21 PM
Response to Original message
5. Conviction by innuendo and rumor ... could be Hillary or Edwards
:crazy: Seems the only people not talking are the people that would know the answer.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
101. Hillary should know. She has been the target of innuendo and rumor
all her political life.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:21 PM
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6. Oopsie daisy.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
54. William Thacker? Is that you?
:rofl:

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #54
83. The Notting Hill guy?
:silly:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #83
85. Yup ...
William: Whoopsidaisies!
Anna Scott: What did you say?
William: Nothing.
Anna Scott: Yes you did.
William: No I didn't.
Anna Scott: You said "whoopsidaisies".
William: I don't think so. No one says "whoopsidaisies" do they? Unless they're...
Anna Scott: There *is* no "unless." No one has said "whoopsidaisies" for fifty years and even then it was only little girls with blonde ringlets.
William: Exactly. Here we go again. (He falls off the fence again)
William: Whoopsidaisies. It's a disease I've got. It's a clinical thing. I'm taking pills and having injections. It won't last long.

:rofl:

I really enjoy that movie.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #85
93. Bwahahahaha. I must be channeling him.
:rofl:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:21 PM
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7. But Bill Clinton is the reason for all our troubles, I refuse to believe this
Patrick Fitzgerald, is a republican hack.

sarcasm people
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. With all of the Clinton fundraising scandals??
You don't seriously believe you have any credibility to wage this attack, do you?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #13
46. My thought exactly,
'You live in a glass house, be careful how you throw stones/pebbles'

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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. More like a premonition of comments to come!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. I'm omniscient, I guess. nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:21 PM
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8. There's a reason for Obama's media and big money support
Its called setting him up for a fall.

If you don't want another GOP'er in the WH, start thinking clearly. There's no way a young guy like him rises that quickly in the IL Dem party machine without getting dirty.

Obama is a flawed candidate.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
24. they're all flawed candidates - eom
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #24
31. Broad brush?
Some are more flawed than others. Obama's connections to this Rezko guy are bad. He's closely linked to and accepts money from someone who retained it illegally.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
10. i knew it!
big trouble ahead!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
11. Rezko is ONE
When you get the list the Clintons have accumulated, let me know. Obama has already renounced Rezko.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. this has nothing to do with the clintonsss get over it!
:rofl::rofl::rofl:NO-bama!...NO-bama!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:30 PM
Original message
As a Dem voter, I prefer ZERO
connections to illegal activity.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:34 PM
Response to Original message
27. Edwards has had to return money too
It happens. This is ONE. If it were a long list, I'd be concerned. This is the name that keeps coming up, over and over. The only name. I don't think there's anything else and no real accusations of bribes or kick backs have been claimed.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #27
84. Yeah, but watch the M$M pick up on this and repeat it over and over...

that's what they do.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:24 PM
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12. Probably bullshit.

But better to get it out of the way now.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. This almost always happens once
Every candidate ends up with some kind of scum, somewhere along the line. Other candidates make a habit of it and that's the difference.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Yes because I for one

will be mega unhappy, if he gets the nomination and a shit storm happens with this.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
71. Sadly, we in Illinois know this isn't bullshit.
The Rezko thing is a real mess, and we'd be better off with a candidate with no connections to this.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #12
111. You are clearly not from Illinois or the Chicagoland parts of Wisconsin.
Corruption in Illinois has gotten to be more regular than cold winters up here.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:26 PM
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17. Someone using people to give more than allowed to a campaign? It's done every day by people
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 02:26 PM by RGBolen
for every candidate. I've done it.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:29 PM
Original message
You have done it ? Is it illegal? Is this your confession?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
25. Oh yes, indict me and my two year old cousin for it. Every campaign does this.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #25
34. Rezko was indicted, you weren't
your two year old cousin probably couldn't be held legally accountable. I'm not aware of anyone being sent to juvie for an FEC violation.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. With the way some here idolize ethics I'm sure there will be calls for her to rot in prison.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #38
64. I wish you WOULD be indicted.
I idolize ethics and think that the world would be a better place if more people had them, including you.

The Democratic party doesn't need people like you, and I wish you would not associate yourself with it.

You should be ashamed.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
72. Idolize ethics?!!
As opposed to ignoring or eschewing them?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #38
88. Your attitude is what's wrong with America. Hence my user name.
Disgusting. :puke:
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. Maybe you can get a high paying position with a voting machine company. nt
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
20. Shocking, I tell you!
The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.

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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. yes and look at whitewater and how that all blew up


Its guilt by association and you need to face that pretty damn quick.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #23
32. Tell me again the story of how Whitewater robbed Bill Clinton of the nomination
Too bad, he was such a promising young man. I would have loved to have seen him in office. :sarcasm:

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
21. So Obama's house fell off a truck?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #21
90. Yeah, just like all the other criminals in Washington DC.
But hey, Oprah's been wrong before. Remember James Frey?
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #21
112. LOL! Pretty much. n/t
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:31 PM
Response to Original message
26. Info
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. when politicians start going

"to the best of my recollection" and "as i recall" dont your ears just pricking up like bullshit detectors.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
36. No, but the idea of a bullshit detector makes me wonder.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. Is Obama still linked to Rezko?
How else would a young guy with no experience manage to raise so much money?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. How did John Edwards do it? n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Heh, check again
Edwards has raised far, far less than Obama. That's how it is when you do it legally and ethically. Sorry, but I don't like candidates who want to win at all costs and engage in illegal activity to do so.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #33
44. FEC Formal Complaint Against Edwards Campaign
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #44
53. maybe you need a new accuser
David A. Keene, Chairman American Conservative Union
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. Edwards returns $44,000 in donations
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E2D8143DF935A15754C0A9629C8B63

There were several of these stories in 2003, I could keep going.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. In 2004, FEC ruled no violation of law
a non-issue.

OTOH, FEC is still reviewing the activities of Obama's supporter. When the FEC finds Obama's friends activities are ok, then you should post that.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #61
69. This is a California case n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #44
56. FEC dismissed the complaint
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2006/20060919mur.html

"The complaint alleged that six law firms reimbursed individuals for their contributions to John Edward’s presidential campaign. In MUR 5366, the Commission found no reason to believe that respondents associated with four of the six law firms violated the Act and closed the file as it pertained to them. Because the complaint in this matter provides no new information as to these respondents, the Commission dismissed the complaint as it pertains to respondents associated with Howarth & Smith, Robinson, Calcagnie & Robinson, Shernoff, Bidart & Darras LLP, and Wilkes & McHugh. This dismissal encompassed two spouses of law firm employees who were not specifically named as respondents in MUR 5366 but who have submitted sworn statements denying that they were reimbursed for their contributions to Edwards for President. See Press Release for MUR 5366 dated June 22, 2006."


Your candidate has ties to crooked people. If you're really a Democrat who wants to see this country get back on track try supporting good, electable candidates who are free of corruption and financial obligations to mysterious donors.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. And all the OP has is the same kind of complaint
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #58
67. FEC still investigating Obama's friend
as is the federal prosecutor. Get back to us when they exonerate him.

FEC dismissed the trumped up allegations against Edwards, no surprise, they were brought by a right wing group.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. There are no charges against Obama at all
When there are, you get back to me on your slanderous attacks.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #70
73. Nor were there any against the GOP'ers in Ohio
who all lost their races after accepting campaign contributions from Tom Noe in the Coingate scandal.

Voters don't like it when candidates benefit from money stolen out of taxpayers pockets and they really don't respond well in the voting booth.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. And Pierce O'Donnell plead no contest
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #70
81. Yet
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 04:00 PM by OzarkDem
the investigation is ongoing.

Let me reiterate, voters respond much differently when a candidate is linked to donors who have been stealing money from taxpayers to fund campaigns. You can take that to the bank.

If you think this isn't going to be used against Obama in the GE, should he win the Dem nomination, think again. He's tainted goods for a problem that voters really don't like.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:47 AM
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116. You are right. We have to be careful with this development.
I want to know what the actual issues are before there is a crime attack...
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:41 PM
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37. It's the message.
People listen and send money. Lots of people, lots of money.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:44 PM
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41. I'm just curious, though
Does this Rezko guy still work for Obama or his campaign? How far has he distanced himself from him, if at all.
It certainly makes you begin to wonder where Obama's money for the presidential race comes from.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:55 PM
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51. I think you can look it up...........and donate.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:05 PM
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57. To whom?
My donations go to Edwards and breast cancer causes.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:12 PM
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60. Here's conflicting info that bugs me....
In your link, there's this:

Q:. Have you or your wife participated in any other transactions of any kind with Rezko or companies he owns? Have you or your wife ever done any legal work ever for Rezko or his companies?

A: No

But in this link ( http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article ) you'll find this:

But Obama's ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm -- Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland -- that helped Rezmar get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor.

Just what legal work -- and how much -- Obama did on those deals is unknown. His campaign staff acknowledges he worked on some of them. But the Rezmar-related work amounted to just five hours over the six years it said Obama was affiliated with the law firm, the staff said in an e-mail in February.

Obama, however, was associated with the firm for more than nine years, his staff acknowledged Sunday in an e-mail response to questions submitted March 14 by the Sun-Times. They didn't say what deals he worked on -- or how much work he did.

"The senator, relatively inexperienced in this kind of work, was assigned to tasks appropriate for a junior lawyer,'' according to an e-mail from Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. "These tasks would have included reviewing documents, collecting corporate organizational documents, and drafting corporate resolutions.''
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:39 PM
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74. Obama is up to his neck in this mess
Someone needs to get Obama under oath and ask him those questions.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:38 PM
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35. recommend
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:42 PM
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39. actually--lots of details in this story:
A longstanding relationship

Rezko is one of Obama’s earliest political patrons. Long known as a prolific fund-raiser, the Syrian-born businessman helped raise money for Obama’s political campaigns beginning in 1995, when Obama was running for the Illinois Senate.

In 13 years in politics, Obama has gotten at least $168,000 in campaign donations from Rezko, his family and business associates. The Sun-Times reported that figure last June. Obama’s “best estimate” seven months earlier had been that Rezko had raised no more than $60,000 for him.

When Obama ran for the U.S. Senate, Rezko held a June 27, 2003, cocktail party in Rezko’s Wilmette mansion, picking up the tab for the lavish event. Obama’s campaign staff has said it has no records to show who attended that party, or how much it cost.

Obama’s relationship with Rezko dates to 1990, when Obama, then a Harvard law student, interviewed for a job with Rezko’s development company, Rezmar Corp. Obama turned down the job, instead going to work for a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill. That firm did work on more than a dozen low-income housing projects Rezmar rehabbed with government funds.

Eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004. Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions, the Sun-Times reported last year. In one instance, Rezko’s company left tenants without heat for five weeks. Obama said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he’d done. .....
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:23 PM
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65. Man! These details do not sound good for Obama. If Obama was not
corrupt himself, how could he have been so oblivious of the shady dealings and the terrible treatment of the people in his own district at the hands of his long-time friend and benefactor? Does not sound good for Mr. Obama...
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #39
77. and
Rezko and Obama's Rev Wright went to Syria together...I will find article and post! Judgment huh??
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:43 PM
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40. This sounds like the Tom Noe "Coingate" scandal in Ohio
taking money from state funds under the guise of "investing" it for the state, then churning it illegally and skimming off cash to supply a political money laundering scheme.

Only this time, its Dems doing it. Disgraceful.

Keep in mind, every GOP candidate in Ohio who received money from the Noe Workers Comp/GOP money laundering scam LOST in the next election. Their careers will be tainted by dirty money for a long time.

We can't have a double standard for our own candidates. Ohio Dems drove GOP crooks out of office over the Noe Coingate scandal.

Sorry, but Dem voters don't deserve the tainted sewage of an Illinois Dem political scam backing up into our presidential election.

Buh, bye, Obama. Enough is enough.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:46 PM
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:47 PM
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43. Why are people blaming Dems for stuff MSM reports?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:53 PM
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79. Because if the MSM reports something on someone we don't like then they are an acceptable source
if they report something about someone we do like, then it's all rightwing spin.

I've even seen people use very rightwing sources to attack a Dem they don't like, saying even a clock is right twice a day. Amazingly, it's right twice a day at the EXACT same spot that these people agree with it.

Imagine that.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:48 PM
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45. Your title is misleading.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 02:49 PM by kevsand
Fitzgerald hasn't said anything about Obama one way or the other.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:52 PM
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48. you can run but you can't hide....
...
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:54 PM
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49. The treatment of the people in housing projects is most damning
From the article:

Eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004. Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions, the Sun-Times reported last year. In one instance, Rezko’s company left tenants without heat for five weeks. Obama said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he’d done.

Obama promotes an image of himself as a hardworking advocate for the poor. Its very hard to believe Obama didn't know about the problems in the housing projects.



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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #49
95. Well, mistakes were made
and there is HOPE for CHANGE.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:55 PM
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50. Rezko/Rezmar has its fingers in the Iraq rebuilding pie
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 02:58 PM by IDemo
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:57 PM
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52. More unsourced cr@p. n/t
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:01 PM
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55. This is bullshit.
All you have to do is google "Clinton return donations" or "Edwards return donations" to find this happens to all candidates. No one gets all their donations from nuns and kindergarten teachers, and no candidate is immune from this. The best they can do is return money from 'shady' contributors when they learn of it, which he's done.

The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.



We have no way of knowing he is the politician named here but we returned this money months ago for other reasons.


Sheesh.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:16 PM
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62. Your bullshit is bullshit....
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article

Obama's Rezko ties deeper than land deal

December 23, 2006
BY FRANK MAIN Staff Reporter
In addition to a land deal, Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to indicted dealmaker Antoin “Tony” Rezko include an internship the senator provided the son of a contributor at the request of Rezko, an Obama spokesman confirmed today.



John Aramanda served as an intern for Obama for about a month in 2005, said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. His father is Joseph Aramanda, a Rezko business associate who was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal corruption case against Rezko. Aramanda has contributed $11,500 to Obama since 2000, Gibbs said.


“Mr. Rezko did provide a recommendation for John Aramanda,” Gibbs said. “I think that it’s fairly obvious that a few-week internship is not of anything of benefit to Mr. Rezko or any of his businesses.”


The revelation of the internship comes after Obama acknowledged a mistake in buying property from Rezko in January 2006 — a deal that enlarged the senator’s yard in the Kenwood neighborhood on the South Side. The transaction occurred at a time when it was widely known Rezko was under investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office
(more) http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/184540,122306obama.article


Obama knew damn well.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:23 PM
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66. His office gave some kid a one month internship
Worth $800 for living expenses? Oh, my.
He gave 99 other kids the same opportunity.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:47 PM
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76. Did you even read it?
The kid's father is a known associate of Rezko who is an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Federal corruption case who has given Obama money.....and Obama and his supporters are pleading ignorance of him not knowing who was contributing to his campaign......bullshit.....he knew damn well Rezko and his associates were being investigate, still cut a deal on his house and only gave a few bucks to charity when it all started to come out.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #55
68. For Edwards there's a big difference
allegations against Edwards were:

1. brought by a right wing, nut job organization

2. were investigated and dismissed by the FEC

Obama's aren't some minor accusation of bundling, etc. He's linked to a guy involved in skimming money from the state and laundering it into campaign contributions.

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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:53 PM
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80. And it's a shame Edwards had to face those false claims.
The point is that Obama has not been accused of anything improper, and to say he's 'linked' is to suggest involvement. There is no basis for that, just some media fueled innuendo. Same kind of thing that has happened to the others.

All candidates have been given money by shady contributors. The best they can do is to give it back, as all three candidates have done in the past.





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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:19 PM
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63. "A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declined to comment. "
Wow, what a completely misleading OP title.

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:01 PM
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82. "Well, you know that folks know
that folks like me, you know, uh, would not have any bad dealings with folks like that."

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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:53 PM
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96. This is bs
I don't support any one of the Democratic candidates yet. But this is clearly a right-wing hit piece.

Some of the posters here sound like some of the lowlifes from freeperland.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:18 PM
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100. One paragraph out of a 78-page document and everybody goes nuts?
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 06:19 PM by Elspeth
This is just wrong.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:56 PM
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102. Whew! interesting...
Look at the emotion on this thread!

I prefer to wait and see if this goes anywhere.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:05 PM
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103. This was threaded in the midst of the emotional Nevada caucus results.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:30 PM
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105. Could be a problem if this story gets legs
but the article makes it clear that Obama is not directly implicated so far.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:29 PM
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107. Come on now, your all pretty!
Don't fight. Put all your focus and intention on the president you would like to have.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:50 PM
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108. a while back there was a story about the L.A. Times and the NYTIMES witholding a story about
a candidite..could this be it?

I heard mumblings in Iowa about a candidate,..but it was hearsay..and i won't repeat it..

but could this be it?

does anyone have a copy of that article saying LATIMES and NY TIMES are witholding a story about a candidate,,,

i don't hsve time to look i up..

thanks ..fly
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:13 AM
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109. What ever happened to Fitzmas anyway?
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:29 AM
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110. If one takes the time
to read the article, it explicitly states..."The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating." second paragraph.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 AM
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113. I expect the Clintons to make a Sierra Nevada out of this molehill
to no effect. Obama's got the teflon in this race and the Clintons and their media-MIC backers are simply going to appear the corrupt losers they are.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:27 AM
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114. don't forget, the Clintons have their share of this baggage ...
http://www.gregpalast.com/hillarys-mother-fing-tour-business/

The right wing was going to have a hey day no matter who gets the Dem nomination.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 AM
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115. Fitz "ties" Obama to some indictments, huh?

"Ties?"

Haven't we been through all of this before. "Tying" someone to something means absolutely nothing.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:20 PM
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117. Fitz is a good chap about such things. No doubt he'll delay the trial until after the election.
What? You're saying he wouldn't do such a thing? He did it for George W. Bush.
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