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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:25 AM
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OK Kiddies, today's Cape Cod Times LTTE
Who shows playbook to the other team?

I like the use of a football metaphor. :sarcasm: Joan awaits your thoughts. . .

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:27 AM
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1. Second day of bitching from the Cape ...
can't they just whine about "the gays" flocking to PTown every year and leave it at that?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:28 AM
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13. Wrong - it's becoming just about every day.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:54 AM
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17. Haven't been keeping up ...
but this is the second day I've seen some bonehead write an editorial to them.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM
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24. There's usually at least one a day, believe me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:35 AM
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2. If you want to play football metaphors here is one that applies to sport as well as life
You never ever ever EVER expect the other team not to try.

Anyone who has been in a football locker room or just watched what passes for commentary in the football world has heard every single cliche a thousand times and the #1 cliche (and it holds true) is that you NEVER take an opponent or a game for granted. It is a full shaped ball and it bounces in funny ways. If any of the chickenhawks had ever actually competed in sports they would have known that.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:37 AM
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3. Mentally challenged, willfully ignorant, or purposely misleading.
Gotta love the knuckledraggers -- they offer so many options in interpreting their screeds.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:37 AM
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4. I left a quick note
I said I didn't know of any football league that lets over three thousand of it's players get killed.

:puke:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:17 AM
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9. Good one! eom
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:19 AM
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21. saw that and applauded
yours was one of the great responses there!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:15 AM
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27. Thanks
They've all been outstanding.Never piss off a DUer :headbang:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:50 AM
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5. Since when did Bush's team have a playbook?
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:22 AM
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10. No kidding! they've been in two minute drill mode calling audibles
without Peyton or Brady at the helm.

Bring Our Players Home NOW!
And give them rooms at Disney World
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:50 AM
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6. Yes, it's all a game to these pin-heads.
Who is it again that wraps themselves in the flag, and spouts off support the troops propaganda while at the same time cutting their health benefits and sending them to war without the proper equipment? Oh yeah, the republic party!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:54 AM
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7. Joan, you ignorant slut
Its moron trash like you that fuels the right wing disinformation machine. The football team won the game 4 years ago, why are they still on the field? And as a veteran, I'd like to know if you have any skin in the game bitch.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:20 AM
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22. don't hold back, Boss
tell us how you really feel.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:15 AM
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8. This must be their 'highlighting morans week'
you are so funny UHC!

Maybe we should remind her of Geraldo
imbedded. ha-ha
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:23 AM
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11. "Refuse to give him the team he says he needs?"
Uh, actually, he had that team and rejected it for a smaller, lighter, transformed flexi-force model.

How's that working out, coach?
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:26 PM
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34. Has the coach figured out the Revolution in Football Affairs sucks?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:27 AM
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12. I added mine there - like every other time the CC Bushbots start whining.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:29 AM
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14. Typical RWer - thinks war is a game
A few years ago, I heard a story about former Bills coach Marv Levy who reamed a caller about that - somebody had called into a radio show with Levy as a guest and went on about how "football is war." Levy shot the guy down saying that he had been in a war and that football is nothing like it.

(I'm guessing the caller probably hung up thinking that was why Levy didn't win the super bowl!)

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:30 AM
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15. I think you should start submitting some LTTEs, camper
I'll put my comments in later, though.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:41 AM
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16. I'm working up a few as you read this.
No ETA yet, but I'll be sure to let ya'll know when I start firing some off.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:17 AM
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19. goodl uck
Just posted my very long response.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:59 AM
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18. my response
Although I detest the sports analogy, if we are to go with it, you have to look at the facts, and not just the rhetoric. You are correct that the “team” was not given adequate supplies, but you place the blame on the wrong people. The head coach himself refused to give them the shoulder pads and helmets they so desperately need, and also tried to start the game with only 5 players on the field, despite his assistant coaches telling him he needed more. To add insult to injury, the other head coach has several times not funded the team when he has had the opportunity and they have fired some of the assistant coaches who tried to tell them they were not playing by the rules. Finally, I find it funny that both head coaches have never played football themselves, but have no problem making the children of others go and die... I mean “play” for them.

Please keep in mind that soldiers are people, and that this is not a game at all. In my opinion, supporting the troops does not mean slashing the veterans’ benefits and sending people off to die for a lie. As for showing the other team the playbook, that is ridiculous. The press is (sometimes) doing it’s job of shedding light on the illegal actions of the administration, and we the public have a right to know. This has been decided by the Supreme Court decades ago over the NYT/Pentagon Papers case.

On the other hand, we can choose to ignore history and be doomed to repeat it.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:18 AM
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20. Liked the responses
Thanks for posting, even if the LTTE was ridiculous.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:11 AM
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26. Everyone here has made some awesome comments
poor Joan of Cape is getting lambasted :cry:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:29 AM
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23. Hi handsome!
I just left my comments.

Sorry dear, the coach has been drinking, the players don't have proper equipment, there are IEDs on the field and a riot in the stands. Time to take our ball and go home.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:47 AM
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25. here's a better metaphor...
The teams on the field and the coach burned the play book.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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28. The responses to Joan's childish nonsense are really heartening to read! Recommended!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:38 AM
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29. I left my response.
And then got busy responding to few other idiotic LTTE linked on the left hand side.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:50 PM
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30. You guys are really good.
GREAT replies!

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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:57 PM
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31. Liz Ferrari just handed Joan her ass
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:01 PM
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32. Here's my post.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:08 PM by PerfectSage
Let’s suppose our military is a football team. Then the coach for our team has poor leadership skills and is more interested in making money by selling the team overpriced equipment.

The team doesn't perform very well and the coach blames the team, the opposing team and the spectators; for the teams poor performance instead of being a good coach and accepting responsibility.

Half the spectators think the coach is a terrible leader who doesn't know anything about football and will never win until the team gets a new coach. The other spectators loudly proclaim that they support the team and think the coach is great and blame the teams performance on the spectators who think the coach sucks.

Just who is it we're supporting? The team or the coach?


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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:07 PM
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33. Looks like the kool-aide drinkers have woken up.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:34 PM by unhappycamper
Wow, Joan suggests that we're not supporting the troops and everyone piles on her like she's got the ball. Regardless of why we're in Iraq or how we got there, you have to remember three things:

1) The fact that we have politicians, including our own John Kerry, publicly speaking against the president here and abroad only serves to embolden our enemies. Like it or not, when they publicly question what we're doing in Iraq, it only reinforces the idea that with each soldier killed, we are that much closer to picking up and leaving. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy; the more we talk about being defeated, the closer we come to it.

2) Like it or not, soldiers are trained to fight and die. It is what they do for a living. The worst thing you can do for a soldier's morale is to question what they're doing. It doesn't matter that you are questioning the president or his policies, because the message is still getting to the troops that you don't like what they're doing. When they hear that, they can't help but question what they're doing, which only serves to demoralize them. Why did the troops in Vietnam question their mission? Becuase everyone back home did.

3) This is not Vietnam where there was nothing of value to the world. This is the Middle-East where the world - not just the US - gets most of its energy. Leave now and Iran will move to protect the Shiites, Saudi Arabia will move to protect the Sunnis and Turkey will move to keep the Kurds from having their own nation. While some may revel in seeing oil at triple digits per barrel, it would plunge the world into another depression and lead to environmental chaos as each army burns oil fields and nations like the US, China and India turn to more coal to alleviate energy demands.

I understand that there are those who hate Bush, but this is much bigger than Bush and has been since Saddam invaded Kuwait. That was what initially destabilized the region and what we've all been reacting to for decades. There's no easy answer to all of this, but those who continue to blame Bush for recent events either have their head in the proverbial sand or are just mining for votes. Either way, this is not the way to win this thing.

Posted by Vic | February 23, 2007 01:09 PM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:27 PM
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35. WOW
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:58 PM by nadinbrzezinski
And here is my post

WOW!

Free clue, this is NOT a football game, but if you insist on the analogy... the head coach has not given them the equipment they need, pre-game, or post game.

Who supports the troops... Joan how many pieces of legislation have you supported that require the troops to be equipped or for the troops to be taken care off at the VA? Or how many care packages have you sent to perfect strangers who are stuck in the sand box?

I am sure though you do have a support the troops ribbon at the back of your SUV, which was made in China and whose profits go to a private company.

Worst I doubt you have had any skin in this game at any moment... those of us who have are insulted by the sports analogies that those with no skin keep making as well.

So I will answer the question for you. I suspect you truly spout rethoric without any formal or real actions....

That is why you can use a sports analogy... and in sports usually people don't die.

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