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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:22 AM
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Should we be calling for the impeachment of the Senate majority leader and the Speaker of the House
for dereliction of duty?

I know I mentioned this earlier but seriously don't we need to take the bull by the horns and do something about this wanta be tyrant almost dictator decider.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:25 AM
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1. I'm pretty sure
that there is no such ability to impeach a Senator or Congressman.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:26 AM
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3. huh
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:30 AM
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5. There is no mechanism
for impeaching a Senator or Congressman.

Is that clearer?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:32 AM
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7. Sure there is
It's called running against them, causing them to lose their seat.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:33 AM
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8. heh
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:38 AM
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13. Well, the problem with that is
No matter who runs against a sitting Congresscritter, that person will be declared "unelectable" and "party traitor" and "divider." Should such a candiate win in the primary, the incumbent will declare him/herself an independent and both major parties will rally around, ignoring both of the designated candidates in a desperate effort to keep cronyism in place; the incumbent will win in an astonishingly suspicious landslide and life will go on as usual. It is called "the reality of American politics" and it makes me :cry:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:58 AM
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17. That's debatable.
Only one senator has ever been impeached, but the impeachment was stalled for lack of jurisdiction. It was never ruled if that lack of jurisdiction was because he was a senator, or because he'd already been dismissed from his seat by the time the impeachment was charged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_...

OTOH, maladministration is not deemed a cause for impeachment - the fact that they are incompetant can't be held against them. They can only be impeached if there are criminatl charges that can be brought against them.

They can, of course, be removed from office by (I think it is) 2/3 majority vote, but that's also not something to be done except in extreme circumstances, otherwise if one party or the other gets too strong a majority they can just remove anyone they don't like - bad precedent.

Have to do it the hard way. Vote the bums out.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:04 AM
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19. I'm all for that too, Vote the bums out.
you know in the climate that is the washington dc of today anything is possible. Personally I think the majority of the 535 in both houses are guilty of wrongdoings and with many rising to the level of criminal, but thats just me
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:25 AM
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2. nothing else has gotten their attention til now.
Oh wait.

They threatened to send a letter to the president. a STRONG letter.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:27 AM
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4. jumping up and down screaming just ain't getting it any more
these two and especially Nancy is impeding the rule of law, plain and simple
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:31 AM
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6. Yes
and yes.

:)
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:34 AM
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9. Should we be worried about Fall 2008, the future of Roe v. Wade, world peace, etc.
Or, should we have a divisive moment and destroy Dem unity during the election cycle. Let me think ..... :rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:37 AM
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12. Upholding the constitution. Not allowing the president to
break the law. Holding him accountable for MURDER. Bringing our troops home. Cutting defense spending. Repealing the Patriot Act and FISA.

Those are the things our elected reps SHOULD BE working on.

We are not lemmings. Dem unity is not going to save us from this administration.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:43 AM
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16. couldn't be put any plainer ;-)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:02 AM
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18. Sometimes we have to think beyond the next election cycle.
It's shortsighted thinking that got us here in the first place.

For what does it gain a nation to win an election and lose democracy?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:09 AM
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20. yes it sure was shortsighted thinking
and that thinking was feeding on greed. We sure have a mess to clean up is all I know for sure. Are we up for it, I think we are. I'm certain that America is stronger than the bush/cheney duo. It's no longer an if, it is now, when
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:36 AM
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10. No.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:37 AM
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11. Sorry, but neither can be impeached from their leadership positions.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:41 AM
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15. Well you know what, I'm just now realizing that thanks to DU'ers
Hell I thought I knew that fore shore but :shrug:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:39 AM
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14. Both the House and Senate control the status of their members. n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:11 AM
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21. No.
1. You can't impeach them.

2. They are not in dereliction of duty.

3. Though they aren't perfect, I'm proud of them both.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:12 AM
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22. Only if we want to look foolish
Senators and Representatives are not subject to impeachment.
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