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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:06 PM
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January 11, 2008


While Chucklenutz is stumbling around the mideast and the media outlets are all focused on the various primary races, there have been some developments in the case of the CIA's destruction of videotaped torture.

An editorial in today's New York Times put it this way: "Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. was head of the Central Intelligence Agency’s clandestine operations in November 2005 when he ordered the destruction of videotapes of the harsh interrogation of prisoners — including, it is believed, the technique of simulated drowning — at one of the secret foreign jails that President Bush had the C.I.A. set up after Sept. 11, 2001. He has now been summoned to Congress to testify about his decision at a closed hearing on Wednesday. John A. Rizzo, the C.I.A.’s acting general counsel, has agreed to testify, but The Times reported that Mr. Rodriguez’s attorney informed the House Intelligence Committee that his client would not testify unless he was granted immunity."

So, another Bush Crime Family member is attempting to avoid responsibility for his crimes. I am shocked . . . not. Intelligence sources believe Rodriguez is quite determined not to become the fall guy, and has said he 'can take the White House down' if granted immunity. Now it’s up to the House to decide if his testimony is worth his freedom from future prosecution.

The White House has asked Congress to skip the hearings and just let their Justice Department handle it. Why not? While we're at it why don't we let Diebold investigate its own crooked voting machines?

We'll discuss this and a weekly news wrap-up on the program tonight!


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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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1. Way'at TruthSeekers!
:hi:





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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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6. Way'at Swamp Rat! Great new Graphic!! & you're 1st!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:08 PM
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8. alright, ralps!
:hi: thanks! :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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14. Hi Swamp Rat!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:11 PM
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22. Hey smokey nj!
:hi: :hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:12 PM
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24. Pat never looked prouder!
Your Swampness :)

:hi: :pals: :hug: :yourock:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:13 PM
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25. Way'at SCE!
:hi: :hug: :pals:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:42 PM
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160. Hi Swampy!!!!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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28. Hey Swamp Rat!
Love the graphic :TGIF: :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:16 PM
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35. Happy TGIF tnlefty
:hi: :hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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2. TGIM
Thank God It's Malloy!!

Hi ralps. :hi: Hello Everyone. :hi:

:grouphug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:08 PM
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7. Hi Liberal_Dog
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:09 PM
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11. Whew! I thought it was Monday!
:D :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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15. Hi Liberal_Dog!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:11 PM
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21. Hi smokey nj
:hi:

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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32. Hey Liberal_Dog!
Hope all is well with you! :hi: :hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:21 PM
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50. Hi tnlefty
:hi:

We might get some snow in the next few days -- so I'm doing just fine!
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PghTiny Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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3. It's Friday!
It's Malloy time!!! Greetings to all the truthseekers out there.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:08 PM
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9. Hi PghTiny!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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18. Hi PghTiny!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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4. Malloy time!! WOOT!!
:bounce:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:09 PM
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10. Hi Gentle Giant!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:11 PM
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Hi Gentle Giant!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:07 PM
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5. Hi ralps and my fellow truthseekers!!!!!
:hi: :grouphug:
I really need you guys tonight, I had a lousy day. :(
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:09 PM
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13. Hi smokey nj, Crook & I are doing good, how are you all doing? Oh Dear! What
happened?? :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grouphug: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:14 PM
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27. Hey ralps!!!!
:hi: :hug:
It's a long, long story - too long to post about. Spending this time with you and my fellow truthseekers will help a lot though. Big :hug:s to you and my fuzzy pal Crook!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:14 PM
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130. smokey if you need us we are here.
feel free to contact us by PM if need be. We do not like it when you are feeling low.:hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:19 PM
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137. Thanks alyce
I know and that means so much to me. :hug:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:14 PM
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26.  what's up Smokey , what happened ?
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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29. Hey blues90!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
It's a long story. I'm just glad I have you guys to make me feel better.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:18 PM
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40. Hey smokey nj!!!
So sorry that you had a lousy day and if I could help, I would! :hi: :hug: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:19 PM
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44. Hey tnlefty!!!!
:hi: :hug:
Just being here helps! :pals:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:37 PM
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74. smokey nj !!! I'm so sorry.



Have a margarita, tnlefty is mixing them up.

:hug:s
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:38 PM
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76. Thanks Ms. November!!
:hug: :pals: :loveya:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:09 PM
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12. Here's a link to the video Mike just mentioned.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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16. Thanks for the link smokey nj!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:17 PM
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37. Anything for you, ralps!
:hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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17. hi ralps!! hi truthseekers!! happy friday!!
:hi: :loveya: :bounce: :grouphug: :party: :pals :beer: :patriot: :toast: :hug: :kick: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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31. Hi SCE!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:17 PM
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38. hi smokey!! :)
:hi: :hug: :loveya: :pals:

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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:16 PM
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34. Hi SCE!!! Enchiladas for this evening.

:hi: :hug: :loveya:


:saucy:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:19 PM
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43. Hi MsNovember!!! Tengo mucho hambre :D
And I could use the fewd too ;)

:hi: :hug: :loveya:

:spiced:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:22 PM
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52. Glad to hear you got your hambre back.

:-)

These are awesome organic chicken encheeeeladddas!

:olay:

:hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:26 PM
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62. A man aint no hombre iffn he aint got hambre, ma'am
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 09:29 PM by SalmonChantedEvening
Good grief that was so Andy Devine I'm scared.

They sound scrumptious m'luv thank you :)

Pele!:

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:31 PM
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68. Or sumthin right out of Blazing Saddles.

:rofl:

I'm rustlin' up yer tin plate now cowboy,

:yippytieA:

:silly:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:42 PM
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82. Extra beans on the side please!!
:hide:

Thankya Ma'am *mosey*

:tumblintumbleweed:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:18 PM
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41. Hi SalmonChantedEvening! Hugs! How are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:21 PM
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48. hi ralps!! whooped but happy lol
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 09:50 PM by SalmonChantedEvening
been a long week and I just wanna sleep til monday

:hi: :hug: :loveya: :pals:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:10 PM
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19. Good evening ralps and Fellow Truthseekers!!!
TGIF! Hope that everyone is well. :hi: :hug: I'm in the last 3 paragraphs of Brent Budowsky's piece on Edwards, but I'll be baaack (in my best Gropenator voice). :bounce: :toast:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:16 PM
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33. Hi tnlefty!!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
I liked the piece a lot.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:21 PM
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51. So did I!
I have my fingers crossed! :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:19 PM
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45. Hi tnlefty, We're doing good, How are you all doing? Could you post a link
please? :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:33 PM
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70. TGIF ralps! Glad to see that you and Crook are doing good!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:42 PM
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83. Thanks for the link tnlefty!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:50 PM
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93. You mean it worked?!!?
it's a big day for me, lol!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:54 PM
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97. I think so, although it's taking a long time to load!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:10 PM
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123. Dang it! I just tried it and got to it very quickly, although
I originated the link. I hope that it works for you.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:44 PM
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162. It might be my browser/computer.
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :shrug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:48 PM
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164. It was my browser! I had to restart it!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:59 PM
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176. Whew!
But on a brighter note - it's still a big day for me the computer illiterate :dunce: Yay! :bounce:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:20 PM
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46. Hi tnlefty !!!!! Congrats to TN for their appreciation of Pres. Gore!!

:hi: :hug:

That's really cool.

:bounce:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:36 PM
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72. Hey Ms. November!!
Yes, it is and about time, but I did notice that some numbnut repuke now wants a resolution to honor Uncle Ronnie Raygun. :puke: Damned :puke:s have to shit in the middle of everything, eh?

TGIF! Hope that all is well with you! :bounce: :toast: :hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:40 PM
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78. I know. I saw that too. What a joke.

:puke:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:11 PM
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20. Thank you Mike! We should challenge ALL elections that use electronic voting machines.
HAND RECOUNT!!!


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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:12 PM
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23. Hi truthseekers
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:16 PM
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36. Hi blues90!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:20 PM
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47. Hi blues90
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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30. Hi ralps and Truthseekers!!!

:hi: :hug:

It's enchilada night! Tell SCE if you see him.



:bounce:

Hope all is well.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:17 PM
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39. Hi Ms. November!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and the CA fuzz crew doing? Big :hug:s to everyone!!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:19 PM
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42. We're all fine here thanks!!!

:hug:s to all NJ gang!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:21 PM
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49. Hi Ms. November, how are you all doing? Crook & I are doing good! Yummy!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:23 PM
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57. Hi ralps!!! We're doing OK!

Hi Crook!!!

:hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:22 PM
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54. YO! SCE!! MsNovember has
Oh. D'oh.

:blush:


:yaknowyergigglinsmooch: :)

:loveya:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:24 PM
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58. Hey SCE!!
:TGIF: Hope you're feeling better. :hi: :hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:27 PM
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63. hi tnlefty!! I am thank you :)
Exhausted is all :hi: :hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:23 PM
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56. Hey Ms. November!!
Enchiladas, yum! May have to think about a margarita, too! TGIF! :bounce: :hi: :hug: :toast:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. Good idea tnlefty !!! You're in charge!! Line 'em up :)

:bounce:

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #61
90. Frozen or on the rocks, salted rim or not? Ah hell...
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Just remember to tip your bartenders and waiters! :toast:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #90
94. I spent 2 years as a bartender in another life, so I really like to

tip as much as possible !!!! Not to worry kiddo.

I like frozen, but I'll take anything you make.

Please send one over to smokey nj, on me!! :hug: and have one for yourself please. :hug:

and oh yeah, everyone else too. :bounce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:53 PM
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96. ......
:hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #94
121. I spent some time moonlighting and making and serving drinks
and Mr. lefty has learned to just hush about my tipping practices, lol!

Frozen - :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

On the rocks - :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Oops, I just swiped one of the one the rocks. :toast:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #121
128. Nistrovia !!!! Thanks tnlefty!!

:hug:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
53. hey folks! checkin in. anyone know the song mike played into the
first break?

i really like it--can't place it
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. Hi orleans!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
I don't know. If you e-mail Kathy, I'm sure she could tell you.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #53
65. Hi orleans
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #65
136. love those eyes, ralps. n/t
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:23 PM
Response to Original message
55. Hi ralps & Truthseekers!!
Ready for some Friday fun and frivolity. :D

:hi: :hippie: :grouphug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. Hi Graybeard!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #55
66. Hi Graybeard! We're doing ok, How are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #55
79. Hey Graybeard!
TGIF! Hope all is well with you.:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:27 PM
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64. Hi truthseekers!! TGIF
IMG]




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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. Hi Ichingcarpenter!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:36 PM
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73. Hi ralps!!!
IMG]
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. Hey Ichingcarpenter!!
TGIF! Love the pic. :hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. Hi tnlefty!!
TGIF to you too!


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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #64
69. Hi Ichingcarpenter!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #69
77. Hi smokey nj
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #64
71. Hi Ichingcarpenter!
Great Last Supper Tea Party. We have fallen down a rabbit hole nightmare for sure.

:hi: :hippie:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #71
84. I think we are the cake they are about to cut up

but hopefully one day the house of cards will fall




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BillORightsMan Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
81. Git yer STARBUCKS here, Truthseekers!
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 09:42 PM by BillORightsMan
Here's something you won't find on US Corporate Media

@ Independent UK
Emails reveal Starbucks spied on staff looking to establish union

By Stephen Foley in New York
Published: 11 January 2008


Starbucks managers monitored internet chatrooms and eavesdropped on party conversations in a covert campaign to identify employees agitating for union representation at the coffee chain, internal emails reveal.

The correspondence has come to light after a long-running legal battle between the company and a union angry at being prevented from organising among Starbucks' 150,000-strong army of "baristas" and other employees.

The revelations come at a sensitive time, threatening to tarnish the chain's public image just as its pioneering chief executive, Howard Schultz, is trying to re-energise the company and attract customers back to its coffee shops.

In one email exchange, managers sought information about a Halloween party attended by employees, and reported how two people at the party had a discussion about union organisation. The conversation ended, one manager noted, because the two employees "were attracted to each other and this became the focus of their evening".

... more at link


Have a wabbit!


:patriot:

STARBUCKS: The Wal-Mart of Coffee
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #81
85. Hey BillORightsMan!
I'm so glad that I've never set foot in a Starbucks.

Hope that you and the wabbits are well. TGIF! :hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #81
86. Hi BillORightsMan, & Hi Dot, Dash, & Deejay. thanks for the link!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #81
87. Hi BillORightsMan!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
Sucky coffee, sucky company. I hate Starfucks!!! :grr:
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #81
89. Hugs to DeeJay, Dot & Dash!!
Hi BillORightsMan!

:hi: :hippie:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #81
124. The wabbits are here, the wabbits are here!

:hi: :hug:

Hi BillORightsMan!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
88. IT'S TRUE IT'S TRUE
SHE SAID IT WAS TRUE
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #88
92. Hi seemslikeadream!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #88
95. Wag The Dog, Wag The Dog, Wag The Dog, Wag The Dog.....
Will somebody please tell Cheney that we have seen the movie!!

Hi!:hi: :hippie:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #88
99. Hi seemslikeadream!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:48 PM
Response to Original message
91. ralps, can you help me do a "Cats for Edwards" graphic.

No offense, but I would like to take Mz. Sesame and Mr. Simon off anything relating to NED LAMONT !! I am so so heartbroken. He is endorsing Obama. :-(

Cats for Edwards!!! YAY!!!!


MEOW

:bounce:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #91
104. You'll have to post photos of Sesame & Simon. Since my old laptop crashed
& burned I just have the Cats for Lamont graphic. I would love to do it! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #104
117. Oh thanks ralps. Here they are:






feel free to use other kitties' pix instead too!!!

Thanks again!! :hug: :pals:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #117
171. Ok Thanks, I copied them
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #117
194. Awe, Ms. November!
Such beauties! :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #194
198. Thanks tnlefty !!!

There's more where they came from. :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:54 PM
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98. Edwards is NOT anti-business. He's anti- massive, corrupt corporate GREED.

I wrote to his campaign and asked them to add that to his speeches. :-)


KERRY sucks.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:55 PM
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100. He's pro-real people and anti-Corporate "person"!!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #100
107. He doesn't have any more money than the rest of them!

They think we're really stoooopid. What a bunch of
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #107
110. Poop, indeed.
:grr:
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:56 PM
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101. Cut Kerry a break Mike, he was busy two weeks ago threatening "hearings" if a football game wasn't .
on tv.

Too bad he didn't care soo much about the 2004 election results...

Priorities, priorities...
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #101
105. Hi Postman!!!!
:hi: :hug:
Kerry is a walking disappointment! :grr:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #101
112. Hi Postman!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:56 PM
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102. Hi Guys...
I'm still at work and can't hear Mike.:banghead:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #102
106. Hi catnapper!!!!!
:hi: and extra :hug:s
Sounds like your day is going about as well as mine did. :pals:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #106
115. I'm sorry you had a bad day.
I scrolled up to read what you had to say earlier. Bummer of a start to the weekend.:hug::pals:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #115
116. Thanks catnapper
:hug:
That's what I get for leaving the house. Please remind me never to do that again.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #102
109. Hey catnapper!!
That stinks. Ms. November has enchiladas and I have a margarita to go with. Tell the boss you've got to go to 'The Office', then hurry home. :hi: :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #109
177. Honey - I'm ho-ome!!!
With a nice chilled glass of chard.:hi::hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #102
113. Hi catnapper!, We're doing good, How are you all doing? Hugs!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grouphug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #113
182. I'm good too, ralps, thanks to wine and a flannel nightie.
We enjoys our creature comforts!:hi::hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:56 PM
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103. John Kerry sucks. And he wants to be VP. His head is so far up

BO's butt, his eyes are brown. :grr: :grr: :banghead:


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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #103
108. The man has no pride. He should be ashamed of himself.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #108
111. He's LAZY !!!

edwards wanted him to fight. Now Kerry is just grabbing someone else's coattails.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #111
150. oh my, I guess you guys don't care for Kerry!! Now Now,
maybe it's Obama who is grabbing someone else's coattails. And don't you guys realize that Kerry has all his supporters e-mails and Kerry will gladly pitch hit for Obama. And if you remember during the democratic convention Obama spoke for Kerry.

Hey Ms. November!! :hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #150
153. I put him in the Traitor column, under Liebertraitor.

:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #103
114. Them bones, them bones, them
Skull and Bones

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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #114
119. grrrrrrrrrr Hi Ichingcarpenter !!

:hi: :hug: Happy Friday Night!

:toast:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #119
139. Yeah, I go grrrrrr too since I worked hard on election week for him
and even wrote to my kids
that he was gonna fight for the election
and had 100 lawyers ready to go.





Published on Thursday, January 22, 2004 by Pacifica Radio's Democracy Now!

Skull & Bones: The Secret Society That Unites John Kerry and President Bush


A little-known fact unites Democratic frontrunner John Kerry and President Bush: they are both members of Yale's secret society Skull and Bones. We speak with the author of "Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power" that reveals details about the secret society and its members.

The New Hampshire primary is just a few days away and Howard Dean's status as the frontrunner has almost totally dissipated. The latest Boston Herald poll now shows that John Kerry holds a 10 point lead - a major surge for the Massachusetts Senator. Still reeling from his victory in Iowa, Kerry is starting to act like the frontrunner, shifting his focus from comparing himself to the other Democrats to putting his record up against President George W. Bush, saying he is the only candidate who can beat Bush and who represents a real difference from the current occupant of the White House.

But there is a fact about Kerry's past that brings him closer to Bush than any of the other candidates. Both Bush and Kerry are members of a secretive society dating back to their respective days at Yale University - Skull and Bones. This fact has not been widely reported but when Kerry's campaign spokesperson was asked about it, she said, "John Kerry has absolutely nothing to say on that subject. Sorry."

* Alexandra Robbins, is the New York Times bestselling author of Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power who was formerly on the Washington, DC staff of The New Yorker magazine. She is a 1998 graduate of Yale and was the first reporter to publish George W Bush's transcript from Yale when he was a student there........


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm



How are you my friend? My local state mandated medical center got closed down by the feds last week but I'm enjoying a good beer right now.




Happy Friday Night!


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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #139
144. Is it Kerry who is a cousin of Pissypants, xRemoved?

or was that somebody else?

One of the worst previous Presidents, if not THE worst, until W, was Franklin Pierce. Guess who is on that family tree?? You guessed it. Old lady Barbara Bush's ancestors are named Pierce. And she's a direct descendant of former Prez F. Pierce. :rofl:

Bad presidents really run in THAT family !!!

:toast:

I worked my butt off for Lamont. Thanks Ned. Your business must be much much larger than we thought. :-(

Sorry about your med center. That really sucks.
This week has been subliminally depressing, so I try to stay as absolutely silly as possible.

:bounce:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #144
156. 9th cousins removed you are right.
My relative was Martin Van Buren, a tenth uncle or something.

The only american president that had english as a second language which is
why I'm drinking Heineken tonight.

I'm also part French but Kerry pissed me off so no merlot tonight......LOL

I have an excuse for whatever drink which is the closest and fullest.


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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #156
161. Martin van Buren!

was he the pres who got stuck in the bathtub?

So what's on tap for us Germans?

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #161
173. Hopefully, a Marxist dialectic realist ..........LOL
that appreciates good german beer.



another relative,


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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #173
203. cool.

one of mine :)

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #103
118. My eyes used to be very dark brown, but they're getting
increasing lighter as I get older. My oldest has my old eyes and I want them back. (Pay no attention to any sounds of screaming from the SE).
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #118
120. Well tnlefty....

are you trying to tell us you had your head up someone's butt???? I'M JUST KIDDING !!! :rofl:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #120
132. No dammit!
I just want my eyes and my waistline back, and that boy had better watch out, 'cause he has my eyes AND my hair from a few years ago and I'm feeling feisty after the enchiladas and margarita.

I'll sneak up on him if I don't trip first!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #132
135. LOL


:hug:

Have another margarita. Tomorrow is another day. -Scarlett O'Hara
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #135
142. Well now I'll be ripping the 'window treatments' down, making
a dress and still pursuing the kid. Gonna be a busy night!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #132
138. Thank you for a much needed laugh!
:rofl:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #103
141.  As far as I'm concerned they should take a fire hose and
Blast all the hopefuls left off the stage other than Edwards and Kucinich , the repugs should be forced to walk the plank .
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #141
147. Hey blues90!
I couldn't agree more and TGIF! :hi: :hug: Fred Thompson first.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #141
149. Yep. Edwards and Kucinich. The only true Democrats.

:hi:

:patriot:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #149
152.  That's exactly why they are left out and why it is obvious to me that
Obama and Hillary are cut from the same corporate cloth .
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #152
158. Did you happen to hear the Prof. and Dr. on Thom Hartmann today?
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 10:40 PM by Ms. November
I forget his name, it is of India origin, and he's a professor of economics in Texas. He's written many books on the destruction of the country by W and Greenspan, etc. He said that Obama and Clinton would have to answer to the corporate powers that give them so much money, even if they wanted to make changes in this country! He did say that if Obama wins, he would have to have Edwards with him.

It was very interesting and the guy was very knowledgeable. I rarely listen to economic discussions, but I am tempted to buy his latest book.

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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #158
167.  No I missed Hartmann today , I had nova M on and miller came on
and she has really been pissing me off with ehr constant Obama pushing so i shut it off and forgot Hartmann .
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #158
175. The Economics Prof was Dr. Ravi Batra
http://www.ravibatra.com/

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #175
204. You are on it as usual ralps. Thank you!!

He was very good!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:09 PM
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122. hey hey ralps and truthseekers!!!
how is everyone tonite??? I still feel lousy, loosing my voice too, thank goodness nothing is wrong with my fingers!!!! :hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #122
126. Hi alyce douglas!!!!
:hi: and extra get well :hug:s. I hope you feel better soon. Tell my fuzzy pal, Chloe that Auntie smokey said to keep you warm and comfy!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #126
154. thanks smokey!! I tell Chloe.
:hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #122
129. Hi alyce douglas !!!!

:hi: :hug:

Hope you are on the mend!! Nasty stuff going around. Take good care of yourself.

:pals:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #129
159. thanks ms november, thank goodness no work tomorrow!!
I will be able to sleep a little bit.:hi:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #122
145. Hey alyce douglas!
I hope that you get better soon! :hi: :hug: :hug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #145
163. hi tnlefty!!!!
thanks, just need some rest, easy to say but difficult with 3 kids! I will put my "do not disturb" sign on me!!:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #122
165. Hi alyce douglas, We're doing good, I hope you get better soon!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grouphug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:11 PM
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125. Hey there's # 5 rec for tonight .... Hi everyone TGIF
:bounce: :woohoo: :grouphug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #125
131. TGIF proud patriot !!

and Happy New Year too.

:hi: :hug:

:bounce:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #131
146. Hi Ms. November
Happy New Yew !
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #125
133. Hi proud patriot!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #133
148. Hi smokey nj
TGIF :hug: :toast:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #125
166. Hi proud patriot
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM
Original message
Hi Ralps
:loveya:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:11 PM
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127. LISTEN TO THESE LECTURES
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 10:12 PM by seemslikeadream
Especially The Myths of the Founding Fathers


http://www.archive.org/details/MichaelParentiMichaelParentiTerrorismGlobalismConspiracywwwgeocitiescomariainvictus












IMPEACH CHENEY




They Thought They Were Free - Read by Dave Emory

The Germans, 1933-45

Excerpt from pages 166-73 of "They Thought They Were Free" First published in 1955

By Milton Mayer

But Then It Was Too Late

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

....

"Yes," I said.

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, THE SHOCK DOCTRINE will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’



Michael Parenti - Terrorism, Globalism & Conspiracy



"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."

- Michael Parenti
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BillORightsMan Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:16 PM
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134. ON MALLOY: "I AM GOING TO YOU!" Truthseeker!
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 10:20 PM by BillORightsMan
"I AM GOING TO YOU!" said the one alleged Iranian "speedboat" captain. HAHA!

This gets less believable as the hours pass...

Official Version of Naval Incident Starts to Unravel

By Gareth Porter
Inter Press Service via TRUTHOUT


The new information that appears to contradict the original version of the incident includes the revelation that U.S. officials spliced the audio recording of an alleged Iranian threat onto to a videotape of the incident. That suggests that the threatening message may not have come in immediately after the initial warning to Iranian boats from a U.S. warship, as appears to do on the video.

Also unraveling the story is testimony from a former U.S. naval officer that non-official chatter is common on the channel used to communicate with the Iranian boats and testimony from the commander of the U.S. 5th fleet that the commanding officers of the U.S. warships involved in the incident never felt the need to warn the Iranians of a possible use of force against them......



GLENN GREENWALD @ Salon
Thursday January 10, 2008 14:49 EST

The U.S. military inflicts more damage on its own credibility

(updated below - Update II)

It seems increasingly clear that the U.S. military's initial claims about its interaction with those five Iranian speed boats in the Strait of Hormuz was exaggerated in significant ways, approaching Jessica Lynch/Pat Tillman/Iraq-is-going-great territory. It's impossible to resolve all of the conflicting details of each side's self-serving version, but the most inflammatory facts which the Navy originally asserted, and which the American news media uncritically regurgitated, are quite dubious, if not demonstrably false.

Here, for instance, was the first paragraph of Tuesday's Washington Post story by Robin Wright and Ann Scott Tyson, highlighting the most dramatic and scariest part of the U.S. military's narrative:

"We're coming at you", the Iranian radio transmission warned. Your ships will explode in a couple of minutes.
(uh, the audio making the rounds and was on US media played repeatedly sez "I AM GOING TO YOU!". The Can't-Shoot-Straight Crowd catch one in the foot, no? -Ed.)




MUCH MORE at link plus check the comments...

www.StopIranWar.com
:patriot:
www.BillORightsMan.com

Have more Wabbits!



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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #134
143. It doesn't really matter if it is false the damage is done.
you will never see the media focus story on this where the network/cable news will spend the same amount of time they did on the original story, they will only give it a 10 second soundbite vs the day long coverage they coverage which was use effectively to plant it in the public's mind.

The point is that they got the propaganda out there with the original bullshit story and that's the one that is stuck in the masses mind, which is why the "Saddam had weapons of Mass Destruction story stuck" to people that don't follow up on a news story.


Hi BillORightsMan!!! glad to meet you

:) :toast: :hi:
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
140. Help Truthseekers
Mike was just talking about all of things republicans opposed - anyone know where to find a list like this?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #140
151. Hi santamargarita !!


Welcome!! Sorry, I didn't hear the source of his list.

:hi:
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #140
155. Send Mike an e-mail tonight and ask him.
Hi santamargarita!

:hi: :hippie:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #140
157. Hi santamargarita!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #140
168. Hi santamargarita!, I'm not sure, maybe e-mail Mike or Kathy?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :shrug:
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:51 PM
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169. radio personality poll
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #169
183. Hi fenriswolf, thanks for the link!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:51 PM
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170.  Steve Winwood and one of my favorite songs
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #170
172. I love that song too!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:58 PM
Response to Original message
174. I'm on hold to talk to Mike
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #174
178. Go smokey, go smokey , get your call on, get your call on...
sorry that was the first thing that came to mind!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #178
179. Don't apologize, it made me smile!
I can't guarantee that it will be a lucid call, but I'll try my best.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #178
181. I can never get in to call his show
It must be because I have VOIP, and I never even get put on hold,
just a busy signal or a tape of the program.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #181
184. I heard the program for about a minute or so before Ian picked up to ask who I was and
what I was calling about.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #184
188. Great!!!! I can't wait!!!
Give a shout out if you can!!!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #184
191. Well, what are you calling about? Don't keep us in suspense!
:scared:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #191
193. I'm still trying to get my thoughts together
I'm going to try to connect the dots with some of the things Mike's been talking about. Don't get you're hopes up though, I don't think it's going to be one of my better calls.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #193
199. Give 'em hell, smokey. I can't wait.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #193
222. I thought that you did GREAT!!
:hug: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #222
229. Thanks tnlefty!
:hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #174
180. Go, smokey, go!!!
:bounce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #180
185. Thanks catnapper!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #180
187. Hey catnapper!!
Glad you arrived home okay! Have a margarita :beer: :toast:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #187
190. Mr. c already had 'em mixed!
He's almost as well-trained as the kitties...
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #190
192. How the hell did you do that?
I'm series!! Mr. lefty doesn't do drinks and neither does HAC! :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #192
196. Aw shucks, I don't wanna brag, but Mr. c is a HUGH support in time of need.
I take care of him - he takes care of me. We're not morans!!!!!11111111:rofl:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #196
207. That's it! I shall now go tell Mr. lefty and HAC that they're
morans!! and slackers! He never makes drinks and she won't clean her own litter box! Formal protest!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #207
209. Do they have any trade-in value? You might try eBay.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #174
186. Yay!! I hope you get on smokey nj!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #186
189. Thanks ralps!!!
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #189
195.  I always get nervous when on hold and lose track of what I wanted to say
I just wing it and hope for the best .
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #195
201. that's why I haven't called yet. Besides being at work and getting interrupted
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #189
197. WooHoo smokey !!

:bounce: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #197
200. Thanks Ms. November!!!!
I'm afraid it will be a lackluster call at best.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #200
206. Nah. Just tell him W is the 2nd worst president in his family.

:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:28 PM
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202. H. RES. 888
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.RES.888:

Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated... (Introduced in House)
HRES 888 IH

110th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 888

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `American Religious History Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

December 18, 2007

Mr. FORBES (for himself, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mr. AKIN, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. HAYES, Mr. HENSARLING, Mr. HERGER, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. MCHENRY, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mr. PEARCE, Mr. PENCE, Mr. PITTS, Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin, Mrs. SCHMIDT, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. WOLF, and Mr. YOUNG of Florida) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `American Religious History Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

Whereas religious faith was not only important in official American life during the periods of discovery, exploration, colonization, and growth but has also been acknowledged and incorporated into all 3 branches of American Federal government from their very beginning;

Whereas the Supreme Court of the United States affirmed this self-evident fact in a unanimous ruling declaring `This is a religious people ... From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation';

Whereas political scientists have documented that the most frequently-cited source in the political period known as The Founding Era was the Bible;

Whereas the first act of America's first Congress in 1774 was to ask a minister to open with prayer and to lead Congress in the reading of 4 chapters of the Bible;

Whereas Congress regularly attended church and Divine service together en masse;

Whereas throughout the American Founding, Congress frequently appropriated money for missionaries and for religious instruction, a practice that Congress repeated for decades after the passage of the Constitution and the First Amendment;

Whereas in 1776, Congress approved the Declaration of Independence with its 4 direct religious acknowledgments referring to God as the Creator (`All people are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'), the Lawgiver (`the laws of nature and nature's God'), the Judge (`appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world'), and the Protector (`with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence');

Whereas upon approving the Declaration of Independence, John Adams declared that the Fourth of July `ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty';

Whereas 4 days after approving the Declaration, the Liberty Bell was rung;

Whereas the Liberty Bell was named for the Biblical inscription from Leviticus 25:10 emblazoned around it: `Proclaim liberty throughout the land, to all the inhabitants thereof';

Whereas in 1777, Congress, facing a National shortage of `Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches,' announced that they `desired to have a Bible printed under their care & by their encouragement' and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported `into the different ports of the States of the Union';

Whereas in 1782, Congress pursued a plan to print a Bible that would be `a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools' and therefore approved the production of the first English language Bible printed in America that contained the congressional endorsement that `the United States in Congress assembled ... recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States';

Whereas in 1782, Congress adopted (and has reaffirmed on numerous subsequent occasions) the National Seal with its Latin motto `Annuit Coeptis,' meaning `God has favored our undertakings,' along with the eye of Providence in a triangle over a pyramid, the eye and the motto `allude to the many signal interpositions of Providence in favor of the American cause';

Whereas the 1783 Treaty of Paris that officially endied the Revolution and established America as an independent begins with the appellation `In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity';

Whereas in 1787 at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Benjamin Franklin declared, `God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? ... Without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel';

Whereas the delegates to the Constitutional Convention concluded their work by in effect placing a religious punctuation mark at the end of the Constitution in the Attestation Clause, noting not only that they had completed the work with `the unanimous consent of the States present' but they had done so `in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven';

Whereas James Madison declared that he saw the finished Constitution as a product of `the finger of that Almighty Hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the Revolution,' and George Washington viewed it as `little short of a miracle,' and Benjamin Franklin believed that its writing had been `influenced, guided, and governed by that omnipotent, omnipresent, and beneficent Ruler, in Whom all inferior spirits live, and move, and have their being';

Whereas from 1787 to 1788, State conventions to ratify the United States Constitution not only began with prayer but even met in church buildings;

Whereas in 1795 during construction of the Capitol, a practice was instituted whereby `public worship is now regularly administered at the Capitol, every Sunday morning, at 11 o'clock';

Whereas in 1789, the first Federal Congress, the Congress that framed the Bill of Rights, including the First Amendment, appropriated Federal funds to pay chaplains to pray at the opening of all sessions, a practice that has continued to this day, with Congress not only funding its congressional chaplains but also the salaries and operations of more than 4,500 military chaplains;

Whereas in 1789, Congress, in the midst of framing the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment, passed the first Federal law touching education, declaring that `Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged';

Whereas in 1789, on the same day that Congress finished drafting the First Amendment, it requested President Washington to declare a National day of prayer and thanksgiving, resulting in the first Federal official Thanksgiving proclamation that declared `it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor';

Whereas in 1800, Congress enacted naval regulations requiring that Divine service be performed twice every day aboard `all ships and vessels in the navy,' with a sermon preached each Sunday;

Whereas in 1800, Congress approved the use of the just-completed Capitol structure as a church building, with Divine services to be held each Sunday in the Hall of the House, alternately administered by the House and Senate chaplains;

Whereas in 1853 Congress declared that congressional chaplains have a `duty ... to conduct religious services weekly in the Hall of the House of Representatives';

Whereas by 1867, the church at the Capitol was the largest church in Washington, DC, with up to 2,000 people a week attending Sunday service in the Hall of the House;

Whereas by 1815, over 2,000 official governmental calls to prayer had been issued at both the State and the Federal levels, with thousands more issued since 1815;

Whereas in 1853 the United States Senate declared that the Founding Fathers `had no fear or jealousy of religion itself, nor did they wish to see us an irreligious people ... they did not intend to spread over all the public authorities and the whole public action of the nation the dead and revolting spectacle of atheistical apathy';

Whereas in 1854 the United States House of Representatives declared `It must be considered as the foundation on which the whole structure rests ... Christianity; in its general principles, is the great conservative element on which we must rely for the purity and permanence of free institutions';

Whereas, in 1864, by law Congress added `In God We Trust' to American coinage;

Whereas in 1864, Congress passed an act authorizing each State to display statues of 2 of its heroes in the United States Capitol, resulting in numerous statues of noted Christian clergymen and leaders at the Capitol, including Gospel ministers such as the Revs. James A. Garfield, John Peter Muhlenberg, Jonathan Trumbull, Roger Williams, Jason Lee, Marcus Whitman, and Martin Luther King Jr.; Gospel theologians such as Roger Sherman; Catholic priests such as Father Damien, Jacques Marquette, Eusebio Kino, and Junipero Serra; Catholic nuns such as Mother Joseph; and numerous other religious leaders;

Whereas in 1870, the Federal government made Christmas (a recognition of the birth of Christ, an event described by the U.S. Supreme Court as `acknowledged in the Western World for 20 centuries, and in this country by the people, the Executive Branch, Congress, and the courts for 2 centuries') and Thanksgiving as official holidays;

Whereas beginning in 1904 and continuing for the next half-century, the Federal government printed and distributed The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth for the use of Members of Congress because of the important teachings it contained;

Whereas in 1931, Congress by law adopted the Star-Spangled Banner as the official National Anthem, with its phrases such as `may the Heav'n-rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation,' and `this be our motto, `In God is our trust!';

Whereas in 1954, Congress by law added the phrase `one nation under God' to the Pledge of Allegiance;

Whereas in 1954 a special Congressional Prayer Room was added to the Capitol with a kneeling bench, an altar, an open Bible, an inspiring stained-glass window with George Washington kneeling in prayer, the declaration of Psalm 16:1: `Preserve me, O God, for in Thee do I put my trust,' and the phrase `This Nation Under God' displayed above the kneeling, prayerful Washington;

Whereas in 1956, Congress by law made `In God We Trust' the National Motto, and added the phrase to American currency;

Whereas the constitutions of each of the 50 states, either in the preamble or body, explicitly recognize or express gratitude to God;

Whereas America's first Presidential Inauguration incorporated 7 specific religious activities, including--

(1) the use of the Bible to administer the oath;

(2) affirming the religious nature of the oath by the adding the prayer `So help me God!' to the oath;

(3) inaugural prayers offered by the President;

(4) religious content in the inaugural address;

(5) civil leaders calling the people to prayer or acknowledgement of God;

(6) inaugural worship services attended en masse by Congress as an official part of congressional activities; and

(7) clergy-led inaugural prayers, activities which have been replicated in whole or part by every subsequent President;

Whereas President George Washington declared `Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports';

Whereas President John Adams, one of only 2 signers of the Bill of Rights and First Amendment, declared `As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him';

Whereas President Jefferson not only attended Divine services at the Capitol throughout his presidency and had the Marine Band play at the services, but during his administration church services were also begun in the War Department and the Treasury Department, thus allowing worshippers on any given Sunday the choice to attend church at either the United States Capitol, the War Department, or the Treasury Department if they so desired;

Whereas Thomas Jefferson urged local governments to make land available specifically for Christian purposes, provided Federal funding for missionary work among Indian tribes, and declared that religious schools would receive `the patronage of the government';

Whereas President Andrew Jackson declared that the Bible `is the rock on which our Republic rests';

Whereas President Abraham Lincoln declared that the Bible `is the best gift God has given to men ... But for it, we could not know right from wrong'

Whereas President William McKinley declared that `Our faith teaches us that there is no safer reliance than upon the God of our fathers, Who has so singularly favored the American people in every national trial and Who will not forsake us so long as we obey His commandments and walk humbly in His footsteps';

Whereas President Teddy Roosevelt declared `The Decalogue and the Golden Rule must stand as the foundation of every successful effort to better either our social or our political life';

Whereas President Woodrow Wilson declared that `America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scripture';

Whereas President Herbert Hoover declared that `American life is builded, and can alone survive, upon ... fundamental philosophy announced by the Savior nineteen centuries ago';

Whereas President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only led the Nation in a 6 minute prayer during D-Day on June 6, 1944, but he also declared that `If we will not prepare to give all that we have and all that we are to preserve Christian civilization in our land, we shall go to destruction';

Whereas President Harry S. Truman declared that `The fundamental basis of this Nation's law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul';

Whereas President Harry S. Truman told a group touring Washington, DC, that `You will see, as you make your rounds, that this Nation was established by men who believed in God. ... You will see the evidence of this deep religious faith on every hand';

Whereas President Dwight D. Eisenhower declared that `Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first,the most basic, expression of Americanism. Thus, the founding fathers of America saw it, and thus with God's help, it will continue to be' in a declaration later repeated with approval by President Gerald Ford;

Whereas President John F. Kennedy declared that `The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God';

Whereas President Ronald Reagan, after noting `The Congress of the United States, in recognition of the unique contribution of the Bible in shaping the history and character of this Nation and so many of its citizens, has ... requested the President to designate the year 1983 as the `Year of the Bible',' officially declared 1983 as `The Year of the Bible';

Whereas every other President has similarly recognized the role of God and religious faith in the public life of America;

Whereas all sessions of the United States Supreme Court begin with the Court's Marshal announcing, `God save the United States and this honorable court';

Whereas a regular and integral part of official activities in the Federal courts, including the United States Supreme Court, was the inclusion of prayer by a minister of the Gospel;

Whereas the United States Supreme Court has declared throughout the course of our Nation's history that the United States is `a Christian country', `a Christian nation', `a Christian people', `a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being', and that `we cannot read into the Bill of Rights a philosophy of hostility to religion';

Whereas Justice John Jay, an author of the Federalist Papers and original Justice of the United States Supreme Court, urged `The most effectual means of securing the continuance of our civil and religious liberties is always to remember with reverence and gratitude the Source from which they flow';

Whereas Justice James Wilson, a signer of the Constitution, declared that `Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine ... Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants';

Whereas Justice William Paterson, a signer of the Constitution, declared that `Religion and morality ... necessary to good government, good order, and good laws';

Whereas President George Washington, who passed into law the first legal acts organizing the Federal judiciary, asked, `where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths in the courts of justice?';

Whereas some of the most important monuments, buildings, and landmarks in Washington, DC, include religious words, symbols, and imagery;

Whereas in the United States Capitol the declaration `In God We Trust' is prominently displayed in both the United States House and Senate Chambers;

Whereas around the top of the walls in the House Chamber appear images of 23 great lawgivers from across the centuries, but Moses (the lawgiver, who--according to the Bible--originally received the law from God,) is the only lawgiver honored with a full face view, looking down on the proceedings of the House;

Whereas religious artwork is found throughout the United States Capitol, including in the Rotunda where the prayer service of Christopher Columbus, the Baptism of Pocahontas, and the prayer and Bible study of the Pilgrims are all prominently displayed; in the Cox Corridor of the Capitol where the words `America! God shed His grace on thee' are inscribed; at the east Senate entrance with the words `Annuit Coeptis' which is Latin for `God has favored our undertakings'; and in numerous other locations;

Whereas images of the Ten Commandments are found in many Federal buildings across Washington, DC, including in bronze in the floor of the National Archives; in a bronze statue of Moses in the Main Reading Room of the Library of Congress; in numerous locations at the U.S. Supreme Court, including in the frieze above the Justices, the oak door at the rear of the Chamber, the gable apex, and in dozens of locations on the bronze latticework surrounding the Supreme Court Bar seating;

Whereas in the Washington Monument not only are numerous Bible verses and religious acknowledgements carved on memorial blocks in the walls, including the phrases: `Holiness to the Lord' (Exodus 28:26, 30:30, Isaiah 23:18, Zechariah 14:20), `Search the Scriptures' (John 5:39), `The memory of the just is blessed' (Proverbs 10:7), `May Heaven to this Union continue its beneficence', and `In God We Trust', but the Latin inscription Laus Deo meaning `Praise be to God' is engraved on the monument's capstone;

Whereas of the 5 areas inside the Jefferson Memorial into which Jefferson's words have been carved, 4 are God-centered, including Jefferson's declaration that `God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever';

Whereas the Lincoln Memorial contains numerous acknowledgments of God and citations of Bible verses, including the declarations that `we here highly resolve that ... this nation under God ... shall not perish from the earth'; `The Almighty has His own purposes. `Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh' (Matthew 18:7); `as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said `the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether' (Psalms 19:9); `one day every valley shall be exalted and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh see it together' (Dr. Martin Luther King's speech, based on Isaiah 40:4-5);

Whereas in the Library of Congress, The Giant Bible of Mainz, and The Gutenberg Bible are on prominent permanent display and etched on the walls are Bible verses, including: `The light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not' (John 1:5); `Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore, get wisdom and with all thy getting, get understanding' (Proverbs 4:7); `What doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God' (Micah 6:8); and `The heavens declare the Glory of God, and the firmament showeth His handiwork' (Psalm 19:1);

Whereas numerous other of the most important American government leaders, institutions, monuments, buildings, and landmarks both openly acknowledge and incorporate religious words, symbols, and imagery into official venues;

Whereas such acknowledgments are even more frequent at the State and local level than at the Federal level, where thousands of such acknowledgments exist; and

Whereas the first week in May each year would be an appropriate week to designate as `American Religious History Week': Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the United States House of Representatives----
(1) affirms the rich spiritual and diverse religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history, including up to the current day;
(2) recognizes that the religious foundations of faith on which America was built are critical underpinnings of our Nation's most valuable institutions and form the inseparable foundation for America's representative processes, legal systems, and societal structures;
(3) rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation's public buildings and educational resources; and
(4) expresses support for designation of a `American Religious History Week' every year for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.RES.888:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM
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205. Un-fucking-believable!
:grr:
There's time for this unconstitutional bullshit, but there isn't any time for impeachment. :grr:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:33 PM
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208. Are there Dems on that list swamp? I don't recognize anybody.

These sleazy, hypocritcal sons of bitches !!!!!!!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #208
210. Ms. November, from what I can tell it hasn't been voted on yet
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :shrug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #202
215. Why do you hate Huck , America and christians?




:) :toast: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:45 PM
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211. Go smokey!!!
I hear ya!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:45 PM
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212. YAY smokey!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus Christ Stupid Star!:rofl:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #212
213. Yay!! Paula/smokey nj's on!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:54 PM
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216. smokey - are you giving Chucklenutz a time out?
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #216
217. If I were his mama I'd give him a serious case of red ass!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:56 PM
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218. Great call smokey nj!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM
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220. Thanks ralps!
:hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM
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219. Yay smokey !!!!

:bounce:

good work girl.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:58 PM
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223. Thanks Ms. November!!!!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #217
225. You did great!!!
thank you
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 AM
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228. Thanks Ichingcarpenter!
:hug:
Have a great weekend!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #217
231. And Mike kept you on over the final break.
You were LAST!!!

Good for you, smokey - you were as tenacious as a killer bee. You go girl!:woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:02 AM
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232. Thanks catnapper!
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:48 PM
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214. Go smokey!! The Jesus Christ Superstar tour? LOL
You are off to a great start! :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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MARCUSCO Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM
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221. SOMEONE TOWEL SMOKEY DOWN!!! (LOL)
:rant:

Great Call!!


:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 AM
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227. Hi MARCUSO!!!!!
:hi: :hug:
Thanks!!!!
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:01 AM
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230. Stupid Star? That's even funnier! n/t
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 AM
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233. Thanks Graybeard!
:hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:58 PM
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224. Good night Everyone, Have a great weekend, Take Care & Keep It Lit!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:59 PM
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226. Good night truthseekers, have a great weekend!!!!!
Thanks for making me feel better, I love you guys!!! :grouphug:
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 02:53 AM
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234. Thank you, Mike.
Mike just ripped Kerry for endorsing Obama. Thank you. I love you.

:yourock:
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