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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:19 PM
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Environment:: John Edwards On The Record
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:37 PM by RestoreGore
http://www.grist.org/feature/2007/07/31/edwards/

You were the first presidential candidate to call for reducing U.S. greenhouse-gas emissions 80 percent by 2050, and you were the first to make your campaign carbon neutral. What inspired these pledges?


What inspired me is that the world is at crisis on this issue of climate change. It requires action now. I feel a personal responsibility and also a responsibility as a candidate for president to lead on these huge issues that face the country and the world, and there is none bigger than this one. Without American leadership, nothing will happen.

I'm not waiting to see what other candidates say, or what the political climate is. I believe that you have to lead if you want to be president of the United States. That's the reason I came out early with a very bold plan to address climate change. So I think if you want to know who is the most likely candidate to lead in a serious way on this issue, look at who is leading throughout the campaign.


Can you give some examples of what makes your platform stronger than other candidates'?


First of all, the 80 percent reduction by 2050 is aggressive. I think it is completely achievable, but it is clearly aggressive. So is the banning of the building of any additional coal-fired power plants, until and if the carbon-sequestration technology is available. And the plan to make America producer of the most fuel-efficient vehicles on the planet.


The most central point I'd make is that all of us have to take responsibility in order to address an issue like climate change. The great movements in American history -- and it is certainly true of the green movement -- didn't begin in the Oval Office, they began out here in America where people with convictions spoke out and stood their ground.


Your proposed ban on coal-fired power plants would cause a political firestorm. How will you push this through?


It's like anything else: You have to make the case to the American people that it is the right and responsible thing to do. There will always be powerful interests that have a financial stake in the status quo; you just have to be a powerful advocate for America. It is our responsibility as stewards of the planet, and if America doesn't lead on this, it is going to have devastating consequences to us and to our children.


Do you think we need a carbon tax?


Well, I think I accomplished the same thing in a different way. What I have proposed is capping carbon emissions in America, ratcheting the cap down each year to eventually achieve the goal of 80 percent reductions by 2050, and then auctioning off the right to emit greenhouse gases and using that money to change the way we use and produce energy in this country. I think it is just another mechanism for doing the same thing.


You've proposed a 40-mile-per-gallon fuel-economy standard by 2016. The auto industry argues this would cripple them. Can they hack it?


With the system I've proposed, they can. When we auction off the right to emit greenhouse gases, we will put a significant part of the proceeds toward helping automakers transition to the development of the most innovative and fuel-efficient cars on the planet.


What role should the U.S. play in crafting a new international climate agreement?


America's responsibility is to clean up our own house in a very aggressive way, and as we are doing that then we have the credibility to go to China and India and the countries that are most crucial to developing a world response to this problem.


We -- the great innovators that we are -- need to make technology available to developing countries that will need it in order to achieve a significant reduction in greenhouse gases. China is building more than one coal-fired power plant a week and none of them are scrubbed, which will do incredible damage to the environment. America has to lead them in a different direction.


As president, would you support technologies that would worsen global warming even if they helped to reduce our dependence on foreign oil?


Technologies like liquefied coal? I am against liquefied coal. We cannot add to the damage that is already being done to the environment by using additional carbon-based fuels. I would come down on the side of making sure that America is doing what needs to be done about climate change.


Is Iraq a war for oil?

It's a good question, but the answer would require getting inside of the head of George Bush.


The thing that I am certain is true is that our dependence on oil has an incredibly negative effect in trying to stop the forces of terrorism. It props up bad governments, particularly in the Middle East, who don't educate their kids, don't reform their governments, don't economically develop, and in many cases are largely isolated from the rest of the world, and the main reason is because they are on drugs, and that drug is oil. So long as they are mainlining oil, they will never reform.


Which is why America needs to make a switch from our addiction to oil and carbon-based fuels to wind, solar, safer biofuels, and cleaner renewable energy, which will have positive impacts far beyond economic impacts. No. 1: It will create at least 1 million "green-collar jobs" in this country. No. 2: When we drive down the price of oil, it creates an environment where these countries that are mainlining oil all of the sudden have no choice, and they have to reform, they have to educate their kids, they have to economically develop.


On top of that, if you look at the consequences of America moving to develop biofuels, which are clearly crucial going forward, we have the landmass to support that here in America. But the Europeans probably do not, so they are either going to need to buy from us or develop their own capacity. And there is a very good chance that they will do that in Africa, in which case you help billions of people in Africa who have no means of helping themselves out of poverty. Which means the positive consequences of America leading on climate change are almost endless.


There's concern in the environmental community over the impacts of corn ethanol. How will you structure policies to shift us away from corn ethanol and toward cellulosic ethanol?


The development of corn-based ethanol production and use now lays the foundation for the use of cellulosic ethanol in the future. By expanding the ethanol market, we build demand and infrastructure -- such as biorefineries and distribution systems -- that will be used for cellulosic production.


I'll create new markets for ethanol by requiring all new cars to run on both gasoline and E85 ethanol, requiring 25 percent of chain gas stations to carry E85. I'll also create a $13 billion-a-year New Energy Economy Fund to invest in renewable and energy-efficient technology, including new methods of producing and using ethanol, like cellulosic ethanol. To raise these resources, I'll charge greenhouse-gas polluters for emission permits and repeal subsidies for big oil companies.

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You have been criticized for building a large house. How do you reconcile that with concerns about consumption and energy use?


From the very beginning we were very energy conscious with this home, which is how we got a five-star rating, and it's why we use solar to provide some energy. It is why Elizabeth and I are committed to our home being carbon neutral, and our campaign being carbon neutral.


What kind of car do you drive?


We drive a Ford Escape Hybrid.


If George Bush were a plant or an animal, what kind would he be?


George Bush is like the dry brush in Crawford, Texas, and it's time to clear the brush.

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I have to state that I am opposed to corn based ethanol, but at least John Edwards is speaking about working towards cellulosic ethanol. And I will be sure to write to him to tell him why we need to make bringing it to our pumps a priority, especially regarding switchgrass which has just been reported to have a major net energy gain in usage which means higher yields, less land use and less water use. Also, he is against nuclear which is definitely in his favor, and his environmental hero is Al Gore. There is no contesting that.;-) All in all, I would say he is the best candidate on the environment out of the current candidates and for me that gets him my vote come Feb 5th. I just hope his platform is one that would actually get action in this Congress with this status quo. Of course, that now depends on us heeding the words of Nobel laureate Al Gore and others in demanding action and taking it ourselves.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:21 PM
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1. K&R!!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 PM
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2. Article on switchgrass as major net gain cellulosic ethanol
http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Major_Net_Energy_Gain_From_Switchgrass_Based_Ethanol_999.html

And I also think farmers should get incentives for using part of their land to grow cellulosic ethanol. Using food for fuel is not how you lift people out of poverty in the longrun. Rising populations and water scarcity will only make corn ethanol less and less viable as it also does not have a net energy gain.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:11 PM
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3. "...it's time to clear the brush."
:D K&R.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:36 PM
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4. Edwards -- answers directly, succinctly. What more could we ask in a president
than a clear-thinking, focused person?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:13 PM
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12. Sure would be refreshing n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:52 PM
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5. Kick. (nt)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:54 PM
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6. Excellent article! Thanks. (n/t)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM
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11. You're welcome
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:08 AM
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7. Good grief--!! This is my candidate . . .
By "2050" . . .
our species will be gone by then and perhaps the planet, as well!!

But, good deal that he sees it as the most important issue --

anti-coal . . . good!

They've pretty much killed the environmental movement . . .!!!


Well, we've watched Bush PUSH thru whatever the hell he wanted to do ---
let's see if Edwards could really do something with strong back from an informed public???

If our auto industry weren't working for the oil industry, we could have cars going at even greater mpg than 40 right now --- !!!

"helping automakers" . . . I think not!!

We seem to have suppressed any technology which which bring alternate energy!!!

renewable, clean energy -- alternative energy --- good!

ethanol seems a poor substitute for moving on electric cars ---

Pretty good . . .
but he should be talking about nationalizing our OIL/natural resources --- !!!
And, ELECTRIC CARS -- !!!














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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:10 PM
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10. I agree about 2050...
Scientists from the IPCC say we have about eight years to get our act together or we will begin to see changes that are subtle now becoming irreversible as we reach a tipping point. It is then our political system that will doom us in the end I fear because politicians should actually be READING these reports and feeling the urgency necessary to be able to campaign and say 80% reductions by even 2020. But on the whole John Edwards has been the only candidate to make this more of a focal point, and unlike Obama who is for nuclear which is not "green" by any stretch of the imagination, John Edwards is against it which to me shows a commitment not only to thw environment, but to truly ridding DC of lobbyists and bringing peace. And while I agree with Al Gore regarding a carbon tax to replace payroll taxes because I think it would spark environmental responsibility and employment, John Edwards's plan is along those lines and perhaps he would be amenable in time to at least looking at the idea of a carbon tax. Cap and trade sounds good but it can also be abused, so I hope adequate safeguards would be present in any cap and trade system to monitor such abuse. Either way though, your remarks are right on the money. There is ample technology out here and we can get 80 MPG in our cars if we really wanted to, but once again corporate interests are standing in the way of such innovations making it to us. That is why we need to become louder, stronger, and like Al Gore, support green investments and morally and environmentally ethical businesses to send a message to others that this is the wave of the future. No more business as usual.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:16 AM
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8. kickety kick.
What is your opinion on sugarcane for ethanol like they do in Brazil? I understand that they are developing some mechanical huskers that would de-leaf the cane so the leaves don't have to be burned off.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:30 PM
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13. I'm for it, and....
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:32 PM by RestoreGore
http://www.scidev.net/content/features/eng/sugarcane-ethanol-brazils-biofuel-success.cfm

And I am impressed with what Brazil has done to make it the primary source of biofuel in their country. It has not only proven to be the right thing to do, but they are seeing economic rewards for doing the right thing because they approached it properly. It also proves that if they can do it we can do it. And yes, they now have a process whereby there is no wastage and all of the stalk is used which is fantastic. I think as this article also stated that the great success of this was due to investment in infrastructure and research and development which is now very important for us in entering this market. I do not think there was enough of that done regarding corn ethanol because our society is based on getting a quick profit rather than the longterm repercussions. When we see the moral imperative of what we are doing and not just that it is another way to make a profit or to take advantage of a particular group, we not only have success with the solution but with moral repercussions. So in Brazil's case I give them kudos... and am then disappointed to still see this country talking about something as if it is light years away when it is already being done simply because certain interests don't want to give up their profits.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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14. Thanks, I will bookmark that article!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:07 PM
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15. You're welcome
Love the picture in your signature btw. ;-).
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:44 AM
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9. K&R n/t
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