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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:53 PM
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THIS IS NOT WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:02 PM by peabody71
No accountability in election results.
Believe what you may,
there is still NO ACCOUNTABILITY in our election process.

You need to prove to me that Hillary actually won.
Nothing adds up.

And as for the supposed CNN exit polls.
Check your facts.
How can you trust those figures, it goes through
the same old UNACCOUNTABLE BS.

Wake up people.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:58 PM
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1. Welcome to America
As I posted for someone else about the "paperless" elections:

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

Joseph Stalin
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:00 PM
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3. Sing it Loud!
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:10 PM
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7. it was my understanding that NH used PAPER ballots
never mind all the postings yesterday about them running out of ballots right here on DU.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:02 PM
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8. I don't care what happened in NH
In fact, I'm rather pleased with the results. An "unbeatable" front runner is not desirable, IMO.

I'm simply commenting that all of this is for nothing if we don't retake control of vote counts before the GE. Otherwise, whoever wins WON'T be the person we want.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:05 PM
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9. well, none of it will matter with this voter ID stuff because so many will
be excluded from voting by it.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:13 PM
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12. True enough
"We're tired of hacking your votes- just don't bother coming to the polls if you don't support Little Boots!"
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:16 PM
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16. You're missing the point
this whole thing x( , the numbers do not change overnight, they change in a period of 2-3 days.

its a shame Hillary has to use it in a primary, I'm convinced now that we are surrounded by enemies.

I wanted to hear Hillarys message, not for them to just give it to him. Which is what is happening.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:59 PM
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2. here's what democracy looks like




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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:08 PM
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10. Is that the new New Hamshire motto? "Live free or Die bold" n/t
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:00 PM
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4. Democracy only works when my guy wins.
If Obama thought the rug was pulled from under him, I doubt he would keep quiet very long.

Because if Obama knew there was manipulation and did nothing, then he is defrauding every person he accepts a campaign contribution from.

You don't think Obama is a criminal do you?
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:04 PM
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5. I can not answer that question.
I don't give a fuck who it's about.
There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY in our elections.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:05 PM
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6. agreed, and why wasn't this addressed after 2004?
because it continues to benefit those in power.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:13 PM
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13. NH has paper ballots that can be recounted if the loser requests it.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:12 PM
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11. So you want them to let you handcount the ballots?
Even then I am pretty sure you would say the ballots were frauds or some were stolen, or whatever. There is no proof that you would find acceptable because you hate Hillary that much.

We had REASON to fight Ohio, there were reasons that went far beyond our candidate not winning.

The only thing you have is that your candidate didn't win when some polls had put him in the lead....polls of "likely voters". Then "unlikely voters" voted and fucked it all up.

I understand you wanted Obama to win, but he didn't. Fucking get over it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:15 PM
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14. this is actually what sour grapes looks like.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:17 PM
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15. I had no idea Diebold wanted McCain to be President. n/t
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