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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:09 PM
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Cafferty: "Why won't Congress impeach Pres. Bush
and Vice Pres Cheney?"
















Hell, I don't know.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:12 PM
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1. That's the question everyone wants an answer to
I'm beginning to suspect it's because we don't really have a democracy. I supposed I'd better go to kool-aid rehab. I didn't know I had it ground into my very bones.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:12 PM
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2. They can't even pass SCHIP with the obstruction, so why does he even
bother asking this question other than to unnecessarily slam the congress.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:14 PM
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3. it's quite simple really
we want Republicans to be demoralized and defeated. If we try impeaching Bush, even though a lot of Republicans hate him, the GOP will be re-energized and rally to his cause.

His impeachment will never pass the Senate anyway.

Plus, he's a lame duck. Just let him go and try to fix the mess he's made.

We don't gain much from impeachment, and we'd have a lot to lose.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:34 PM
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10. Madame Speaker? Is that you?
I totally agree! Politics is way more important than upholding the Constitution and holding people accountable for possible crimes. I just don't understand why so many people don't understand that partisan politics are more important than the rule of law.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:31 PM
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21. And How Does A Failed Impeachment "Uphold The Constitution"?
I've been waiting for someone to explain that one to me. How a Senate acquittal of boosh if there were articles passed out of the House would "uphold the constitution" rather than be seen as a vindication of this regime's criminality.

Once again...impeachment is not a criminal remedy...not some magic cure-all that will make boooshie go away. It doesn't even start to address the crimes this regime has committed and the underlings who did the real dirty work...they go free.

The Repugnicans will be held accountable by the American people at the ballot box. Those who have broken the law should and must be prosecuted in criminal, not political procedings. Then...when crimes have been proven you write the articles and have a post-facto impeachment.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:15 PM
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4. Maybe this is why
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:25 PM
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6. I hadn't seen that before...
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 06:30 PM by stillcool47
My God..it's so logical. Who would have thunk?

edit to add...I sent it to him...:toast:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:37 PM
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13. It's only logical from the standpoint of the present
Pelosi interviewed by Leslie Stahl in October of 2006 (before the midterm elections)

"No, impeachment is off the table," she says.

"And that's a pledge?" Stahl asks.

"Well, it's a pledge in the – yes, I mean, it's a pledge. Of course it is. It is a waste of time," she replies.

"Wouldn't they just love it, if we came in and our record as Democrats coming forth in 12 years, is to talk about George Bush and Dick Cheney? This election is about them. This is a referendum on them," Pelosi says. "Making them lame ducks is good enough for me."


She made up her mind a long time ago and has been consistent in calling it a waste of time.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:52 PM
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14. well...I have a hard time with...
all of this shit on my best day...but...I really do not understand how my representatives, and others in this state... have remained so placid on all of this. There is obviously something that is preventing any action...and I don't mean Nancy Pelosi. Everybody knows...and everybody knows that everybody knows...and here we are.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:02 PM
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16. i didn't see that either
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:03 PM by spanone
this is beyond scary if true -
all the more reason congress should be locking these criminals up...

Should we take Congressman John Olver at his word? If so, then what?

There are numerous posts in the blogsphere to the effect that Congressman John Olver (D-MA for 17 years), when grilled by angry pro-impeachment constituents as to why in the world he's not pushing for impeachment of Bush & Cheney, said that the real reason for Congressional inaction is that if impeachment was seriously pursued "Bush/Cheney would impose martial law and suspend the '08 elections". This startling revelation has thus far gone virtually unreported in any major media outlet that I can find, but one website and many blogs (especially the impeachment sites) have picked up on it:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:31 PM
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20. I suppose if it is even close ...
to the truth, he's better off if it doesn't go to 'prime time'. Then he'd be labeled a kooky conspiracy theorist...and that would be that. It makes sense, that for some reason...these people have protection, and the cure may be worse than the disease...I don't know.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:35 PM
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12. Bush/Cheney would declare martial law to get out of impeachment?
And that's the reason this politician gave for NOT impeaching? If he really said/believes that, that makes no sense.

On the other hand, that has basically been the overall Dem strategy. We'll give him everything he wants, otherwise he'll take even more and that'll be bad for the country. Placating a madman.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:00 PM
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15. that shit will happen regardless..
which makes all the infighting about the coming "elections" alnmost laughable. anyone who believes that cheney is going to hand the reins to a democrat after everything they've set into motion is delusional.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:07 PM
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17. Same silly stuff gets the same offer
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:07 PM by onenote
If you really think that chimpy and cheney won't leave office if a Democrat is elected (and that anyone who disagrees is delusional), I offer you my standard offer. If chimpy and cheney stay in office past inauguration day 2009, I will donate $100 to DU. If they leave, you donate $10.

Talk (particularly labelling others as delusional) is cheap. Put your money where your mouth is.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:59 PM
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18. put me down for twenty
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:20 PM
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19. Done
Skinner's gonna get a new suit!!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:20 PM
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5. He said Bush AND Cheney. Just turned my answer in....
Because they are more concerned with not being
labeled a "do-nothing-but-impeachment" congress
than doing what is right.

What I want to know is, at least with Nixon,
most Republicans did what was right. These
Republicans follow in step lock stock and
barrel - despite all the evidence. WHY?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:30 PM
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7. Cowards running the show...
that's why.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:31 PM
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8. Impeachment is risky.
Dems want to play it safe. I think this is the primary reason. Some would call it smart, I call it weak.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:33 PM
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9. Politically safe equals
risking the Constitution...hell, it means trampling on the Constitution.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:35 PM
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11. get in line, jack.
:argh:
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