Official NH Debate Thread #10 - Dems Up

[Sydnie]

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[Labors of Hercules]

1. Edwards needs to jump in here.

[MichiganVote]

2. Yes

[Sydnie]

5. Great picture!!!

Thanks for having that in your sig!

[annabanana]

6. yup

[K Gardner]

7. Indeed he does. He and Obama need to align here.

[liberal N proud]

30. It is the only way he is going to get air time.

It is a Hillary Obama debate at this point.

[annabanana]

A little "fair tax" talk from Obama

[helderheid]

3. I was away for about 10 minutes - any fireworks?

[Labors of Hercules]

9. just starting on healthcare....

[RL3AO]

10. HRC got a shot in on Obama.

[MichiganVote]

13. Coming....coming....

[tekisui]

19. Hillary is attacking.

Talking about Healthcare, she dropped back and attacked Obama's tactics.

Unrelated to Healthcare, just attacks.

[ClayZ]

4. K and R

[begin_within]

8. Were Edwards and Richardson just escorted from the stage?

All of a sudden it's a 2-person debate.

[Labors of Hercules]

may as well have been.

[AlCzervik]

16. yeah what thee hell?

[Sydnie]

22. They are being Huckabees

Stay quiet and keep your head low while the swings and blows are taking place.

[BlueStater]

23. I know

Can't Edwards jump in now? The conversation is actually about him, for pete's sake!

[salin]

24. lol - ostensibly - by the way this segment was opened by Gibson

[Yael]

That was th eformat for the other one too. Start 1 on 1 and expand

More of a dialogue as opposed to generic statements

[kurth]

11. HRC: Obama flip flopping on health care and other issues

[salin]

12. It is getting a little prickly

Clinton defending Edwards changing positions (refering to the war vote, no doubt) and pointing out that he, too, has changed positions. Not sure that this is going to work for her the way she is doing this.

[Olney Blue]

26. Tag-teaming Obama?

[salin]

31. no - Edwards and Richardson have been locked out of this segment

BY GIBSON

[K Gardner]

14. Hillary is not looking good here. Not at all. Get JE in here !

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

15. Thanx Sydnie!

[annabanana]

17. C'mon John!!

[WinkyDink]

18. Obama said he wanted JE to get in, so there, buttinski Hillary!

And why is she carping on the "children mandate" part of Obama's plan? She isn't sounding too savvy.

[AlCzervik]

25. wtf ABC?

[salin]

44. disappointed that a segment that was limited to two of the four candidates.

my first BIG quibble with how this debate has been run.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. Hillary just gave a double whammy

She dissed Edwards and Obama. That actually takes some skill!

[forsberg]

101. great line by Richardson

[jillan]

21. Hillary is doing real well in this confrontation.

Obama is not coming off confident.

[MichiganVote]

32. She's forcing him to get wordy

[K Gardner]

35. She sounded like a witch.. sorry, she did. Unfair attack and untrue attack on Obama.

[Sulawesi]

37. SO INTERESTING, see my post #29, LOL

[Lone_Star_Dem]

38. He's on the defensive at the moment

Many don't sound confident when they're defending their stance.

[Dawgs]

41. Are you watching the same debate?

[DeeDeeNY]

27. John has to raise his hand! C'mon, call on him already!

[debbierlus]

28. So, they won't include Edwards even though he beat Hil

John should call them out on it. Tell them it is very obvious, & it does no service to the constituents of NH who want to hear from all their options.

Fuckers.

[Yael]

109. IT IS THE FORMAT. Sheesh people. Didn't anyone watch the first debate?

Damn

EVERYONE gets to talk after an opening 1 on 1 dialogue

[Sulawesi]

29. Obama is wiping her out right now...

[jillan]

33. richardson is probably wondering why he is there.

[kurth]

Obama: Health care for adults is up to them

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. he is wrong tho.

[MichiganVote]

45. The deck is stacked against adults. He said as much himself earlier.

[debbierlus]

52. Really. Up to them. If they can't afford the premiums, then what?

Are you paying attention Obama supporters?

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. Clinton is kicking butt!

[WinkyDink]

62. You think? I think she's sounding desperate. Interrupting.

[WinkyDink]

39. TELL IT, JOHN! "We finished first and second in Iowa."

[Evergreen Emerald]

42. please by what percentage?

[WinkyDink]

77. ?? It's in the newspapers.

[annabanana]

40. JE on Health Care now.... (Mentions 2nd place in Iowa. . ha)

[K Gardner]

43. There he goes.. he just made his move, an alignment with Obama. Go JE.

[Yael]

125. Together, they will be unbeatable

[Yuugal]

46. Hillary attacks! Obama/Edwards tag team respond!

Oh the humanity!

[tekisui]

47. Edwards lays off Obama and challenges the satus quo--clinton.

[babylonsister]

48. Did Clinton just bite into a lemon? nt

[femmocrat]

Very sharp reply, JE. She stepped in it again.

He came in second, don't forget! LOL

[KingOfLostSouls]

49. I'm rethinking John Edwards

he's really showing a lot of class between him and obama.

thats very admirable. it shows a lot of class and dignity. kudos to john.

[gkhouston]

86. I think Edwards and Obama have figured out that they need to team up

together against Gibson if they want to "win" this debate.

[Dawgs]

112. kudos to Obama. They are both showing what presidential looks like.

Hillary sounds like she can't control herself.

[annabanana]

50. Brings up the "forces of Status quo" go John

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

51. Johnny up.

Get her Johnny!

[AlCzervik]

58. yup, doing well.

[Endangered Specie]

Nice Edwards with that shot at Hillary

[BeyondGeography]

53. LOL...we now know who Edwards is going after tonight

[blogslut]

54. Obama & Edwards banding together! Wheee!

[femmocrat]

Love it! Great teamwork... the old one-two, and she's out!

[Sulawesi]

55. JE nailing Clinton, he wants he and Obama to emerge from NH

[Sanity Claws]

56. Obama and Edwards are very courteous to each other

I wonder if they decided to align themselves. Hillary looked bad the way she went after Obama.

[LSK]

57. Wow it appears Edwards is stumping for Obama

Are they going to run together eventually?

[Sanity Claws]

71. Great minds think alike.

Look at my post just above yours.

[debbierlus]

82. Could be....Edwards has a huge progressive base & it would secure him way more support

I would rather it be Edwards first.

[jillan]

59. Give me a break Edwards!

Instead of answering the question you bragged about coming in second.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

60. I really enjoy hearing Edwards deconstruct what's going on when the "change" discussion occurs.

MKJ

[Yael]

61. Edwards -- "I didn't hear these kinds of attacks out of Sen. Clinton when she was ahead"

W00t!!!

[Renew Deal]

63. I was right. Edwards went hard at Hillary.

[K Gardner]

Did she just do a Shrub "Its hard work" line?? She's yelling... LOL

[GCP]

Getting shrill

[Sydnie]

64. She is getting pissed now

It's going to get good.

[AlCzervik]

84. yup, my daughter just said--"what, oh snap, put the Shields up ma"

[Sydnie]

110. Tell her I agree - Snap indeed!

[Maven]

65. Is Edwards angling to be Obama's VP or something?

[K Gardner]

I dunno, but he and Obama look good right now.

[Evergreen Emerald]

76. you guys are getting ahead of us

[tishaLA]

66. Edwards obviously wants to run against Obama

Thinking he will have a better chance, just as he did in 04 when he wanted to get one-on-one against Sen Kerry

Good, though, that he got Hillary to raise her voice, which is when she sounds weakest.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

67. Now this is the kind of stuff I was expecting tonight

I love politics.

[Sulawesi]

68. Hold you temper! OMG!

[Renew Deal]

69. Hillary is going nuts!

[Yael]

70. Hillary needs to quit yelling. She is coming across like a witch

[DawgHouse]

83. Wow, I think she sounds great.

Witch? Really????

[MichiganVote]

85. Its a debate!

[femmocrat]

98. Yep, the word "shrill" comes to mind...

not a good move, Hill. She started it afterall.

[jillan]

72. Go Hillary!

[babylonsister]

73. Hillary, chill out, hon!

[951-Riverside]

Only 2700?

[dysfunctional press]

74. the candidates need to learn the difference between health CARE and health INSURANCE...

the terms are NOT the same and are NOT interchangeable.

[debbierlus]

91. thank you.

[annabanana]

75. Hillary interrupts to not let that "status quo" thing stand...

[Evergreen Emerald]

go for it Clinton

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

78. Don't be yelling Hillary. Please.

[scarletwoman]

79. Oh noes! Edwards zinging Clinton "Status Quo" -- She's pissed!

[blogslut]

80. Oh, she's getting angry

Not good.

[tekisui]

81. 35 years of CHANGE!!!!

HAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

[K Gardner]

95. GET THE VALIUM QUICK !

[BeyondGeography]

123. No shit...

[Blackhatjack]

111. I hope Edwards calls her on this --'35 years of change'??? (First Lady??/Corp Lawyer??/Walmart??)

[salin]

87. Go Hillary!

making some ground back from her picking at Obama- when she goes to stand up for her record of "making change". And richardson squeaks in a good quib "I've been in hostage situations that are more civil than this."

[salin]

99. I say that not as a supporter - but she swept me up with that!

[liberal N proud]

Zing - Richardson

[BlueStater]

88. Richardson makes lame joke

Ugh.

[napi21]

89. For anyone who's not watching the streeam, the audience is responding

much better to Edwards and Obama than they are to Hillary.

[debbierlus]

106. Thanks - WHERE CAN YOU STREAM?

[napi21]

113. Here

http://www.wmur.com/video/14986142/index.html

[milkyway]

90. OMFG! Hillary is finished.

[babylonsister]

Richardson: I've been in hostage negotiations that were more civil than that.

[begin_within]

115. Much needed comic relief - if he hadn't said that they might have come to blows

[Joe the Revelator]

92. Hillary going off into shrill crazy lady land

Not very cool headed of her in contrast to John and Obama.

[MichiganVote]

116. I liked it, shows spirit

[Evergreen Emerald]

121. sexist pig

[DesertRat]

Shrill crazy lady? If she were a man she'd be called a strong leader.

[RL3AO]

93. Zinger of the night, and maybe of the campaign from richardson.

[Muttocracy]

114. zingers

Cute, but no Joe Biden

[Ineedchange]

94. Richardson needs to just ask for the VP slot now

[sillyphoenix]

108. ABSOLUTELY.

Edwards-Richardson '08!

[BeyondGeography]

96. That was a meltdown...thanks, Hilly!

[salin]

126. it worked for me... resonated to me

as a woman whose professional work has often been overlooked, or attributed to others. I am not in her corner - but that little rant of her really worked for me.

As one who is not committed - I am easier to be 'reached' by different moments by different candidates. It is kind of a nice thing to not be already vested.

[tekisui]

128. She has changed for 35 years!!

How the hell can you claim that you have been for change for 35 years in regards to this government????

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

97. Richardson Hostage situation statement. LOL.

[AlCzervik]

100. And Richardson from down town and the crowd goes wild!

[annabanana]

102. Richardson gets first laugh line "I've been in hostage negotations

that have been less heated than this"

[knowledgeispwr]

103. According to wmur

Clinton is getting negative reviews from the independents during her Obama/Edwards attack.

http://www.wmur.com/video/14986142/index.html
(simultaneous audience reaction graphs)

[justanaveragedude]

104. What is Obama trying to say?

I'm not going to mandate coverage because I believe if it is affordable people will buy it, however, I not so sure they will buy it for their children, therefore I will mandate it for children. Not a lot faith in people.

[KingOfLostSouls]

105. "Is experience some kind of a leper??!"

wow, bill richardson just made a good case for....joe biden

(sorry, had to sneak that in)

[Sulawesi]

107. That HRC moment was the death knell, JE masterfully got her goat

[K Gardner]

118. Tell me now that Trial Lawyer can't damned fight for us ! That was brilliant !

[forsberg]

119. I don't know...

I think she's fighting for the presidency, you have to get a little angry sometimes. she isn't just going to roll over and die.

[Renew Deal]

127. She went ballistic.

[desi]

117. She's behind now John?

rofl Have you checked YOUR numbers yet?

[pinto]

120. This is pretty good, imo. All are speaking to the "buzz", and trying to make their points.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

134. It's very good!

I'm loving it. They're all doing great and I love the direction it's moving.

[WinkyDink]

122. I can understand interrupting, and even getting angry. But Hillary has no "charm card"

she can play, otherwise.

[annabanana]

124. Edwards bringing up the corporate stranglehold.... good

[AlCzervik]

129. may i look half as good at 54 John.

[annabanana]

130. "entrenched special interests"

[bullwinkle428]

131. Yeahhhh! JE shout-out to Costco!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

Edwards is captivating. Obama is calm and statemanlike. Clinton is seemingly on the defensive, but

she's keeping a pretty cool head.

I'm enjoying this. MKJ

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

132. Wish my Kucinich was there.

[K Gardner]

133. She lost it. Right after a discussion about nuclear weapons. Think about it.

[Sydnie]

135. Thread 11 Up Now!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[maddezmom]

136. locking

#10 is up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...