New Hampshire don't mean shit.....

[trumad]

MANCHESTER, N.H. (Feb. 20) -- After a tough and testy campaign, conservative commentator Pat Buchanan scored a narrow, stunning victory tonight over Sen. Robert Dole (R-Kan.) in the first-in-the-nation New Hampshire primary.

With votes counted from 100 percent of the Granite State's 300 precincts, Buchanan was ahead of Dole 27 percent to 26 percent. Former Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander was locked in third place, with 23 percent.
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[Eurobabe]

1. I begin to think they ALL don't mean shit

It's who the media anoints that counts.

:sarcasm:

[DaLittle Kitty]

3. ABSOLUTELY IT'S THE VOICE OF CORPORATE AMERICA, THE MSM

Who MANIPULATES the public w/ the "All Seeing Eye" spewing misinformation and propaganda to preserve the position of the Establishment = "The Corporation." It's FASCISM baby and don't you forget it! :nuke:

[skipos]

2. Sorry your candidate isn't doing very well there, eh? nt

[trumad]

10. What are you a mind reader?

You don't even know who my candidate is....Honestly---I like them all and haven't chosen yet. My OP speaks to a different point though, one that obviously went right over your head.

[skipos]

13. Clinton got 3% in Iowa in 1992, but that point is just as irrelevant as yours

2008, on the dem side, can't be compared to any other race at this point. I wouldn't freak out if any of our candidates won the nom, but I can admit that Obama or Clinton winning NH would be a HUGE DEAL. The Dem race could have been a three person race if Edwards won Iowa. He didn't, so now (barring a miracle) it is a two person race. Winning NH will be very, very important.

You can't compare 2008 to any other race on the Republican side either. NH may not decide anything. Huckabee would still handily lose NH but win the nomination. McCain could win NH like he did in 2000 and lose like he did in 2000. McCain could get hurt by independents breaking for Obama. Mitt could pull off a win.

The Rep side is still very much in the air.
On the Dem side, if Obama wins he will certainly win SC and have some serious momentum. If Hillary wins, she is on track to mount her comeback. Alas, NH means alot.

So you have no slight favorite right now?

[trumad]

15. Still up in the air...

I see great things in all the Dem nominees....

[ccpup]

4. the OP brings up a great point

In 1992, Bill Clinton lost the first FIVE Primary States before winning Georgia and then locking up the Nomination on Super Tuesday. Whoever wins NH, the race is far from being over.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. Do you think Hillary can lose five straight and win Georgia?

:shrug:

[ccpup]

9. don't know

but I do know she has money in the bank and the on-the-ground organization and support to compete on Super Tuesday where she has comfortable twenty point margins in most of the Big States (CA, NY, NJ, PA). And, as Georgia is on Super Tuesday, maybe she could win it. Who knows?

[Lex]

5. LOL. Buchanan.

omg

[KharmaTrain]

7. It's Part Of An Obstacle Course

New Hampshire alone means shit. Iowa alone means the same. But put together with the on going corporate media narrative and compressed primary schedule, New Hamsphire is the latest obstacle in a test of stamina and organization.

An Edwards win on Tuesday makes him visible again, an Obama victory all but buries Hillary and a Hillary victory makes her the "comeback kid".

In the past New Hampshire was separated from Iowa by several weeks...sufficient time for campaigns to re-tool, re-fund, re-message and try to parlay New Hampshire into a stepping stone to the next round that came several weeks later. This year it's only hours between Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina has been moved up as well. This has turned into a reality show...as body fall off the obstacles. By Valentines Day we'll have our winners. Right during sweeps month. Hell, who needs writers.

[maxanne]

8. how clever

Oh, wait - not clever at all.

All of you were all falling over yourselves to congratulate NH on being the only state to turn blue in 2006.

Things have changed here. They continue to change. Anyone who pretends otherwise is just spreading ignorance, and engaging in a peculiar attempt at fearmongering.

[trumad]

11. LOL

What's that got to do with the Repubs picking Pat?

Nothing...

[Alexander]

12. No candidate has won both Iowa and NH and lost the nomination.

Ever.

[B Calm]

14. Candidates have lost both Iowa and NH and went on to win the nomination.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Isn't that what Hillary is saying about Iowa?