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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:24 AM
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Ever notice that the MSM just can't
speak well of (or at all, most of the time) of Edwards? He gets the occasional honorable mention, at best, no matter how well he's doing. The rest of the time is all Hillary, Obama and the rest. Geez. What is it that prevents them from giving him air time?

Or am I imagining all this?



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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:25 AM
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1. Yeah, it's got me thinking he might be the real thing because he's dismissed. nt
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:26 AM
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6. Yep
I've been thinking along those lines.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:25 AM
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2. That Populist message scares the shit out of them.
How are they gonna report on their own ill-gained power role?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:34 AM
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8. So true
and, imo, their lack of reporting is the only thing holding him back.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:32 PM
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33. Bingo. Corporations don't want to see their power curtailed and the media are just corporations. NT
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:25 AM
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3. I don't think you are imagining it, but then I am of the older generation
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM by uppityperson
racist and sexist. I think it is because of those 2 things. He's just a white man with decent views on things and therefore not "sexy" (sexy not meaning sexuality, but woohoo for the news sexy)
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:51 AM
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12. There may be some truth
to what you say. I love that our party embraces and promotes all of our candidates. I'm so proud to be a part of that party and the history we are making. I'm also a feminist and the first to call out the white male agenda when it is present.

But I think John Edwards is the solid choice this time around. His color and sex have nothing to do with it.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:26 AM
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4. He's a threat to their power.
Period.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:26 AM
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5. The MSN can't stand Edwards becaue he wants to go after its corporate masters.
Plus, no one in the MSM has ever had to worry about a job going overseas, and they've never had a friendship with any one like Edward's dad in their life.


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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:57 AM
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16. 7 years
and they've learned nothing? One would think that at this point there would be a least a bit of wisdom (if not honest fear) buzzing around.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:57 AM
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22. Wisdom is in short supply world-wide, as far as I can tell. n/t
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:18 PM
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34. I know.
I was just talking to myself, I suppose.

It's hard, a burden really, to actually know some of the simpler truths.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:17 AM
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20. Bingo!!!
The same global corporatins that have turned Washington into a whore of special interests ...these very same entities own the MSM, lock stock & barrel.

How can Mainstream Media whores embrace Edwards (who's fought big corporations all his adult life), without pissing off their corporate pimps?

Don't be surprised to see huge donations fill up Hillary's coffers, after her 3rd place finish. Whether she's aware of it or not, the pimps have a vested interest in her success.


K & R
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM
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23. I won't be surprised to see money going into both Obama's and Clinton's coffers.
Lots of folks like to support a winner, and Obama looks like one now.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:18 AM
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25. No doubt you're correct, but...

...Hillary is already deeply in bed with these cutthroats. The fix may already be in.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:31 AM
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27. One thing will help her will be closed primaries.
Independents could easily declare themselves Dems and vote in Iowa. I don't think that will be the case with all the remaining ones.

Obama will have to fight votes among previously registered Dems. It won't be as easy.

Whether the fix is in, I don't know.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:52 AM
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30. I'm speaking nationally...
Hillary came in third to Obama & Edwards in the Iowa Caucuses. The same pimps who saw Bush lose to McCain in New Hamshire in 2,000 are behind Hillary today.

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:19 PM
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31. That could be.
She would be easier to deal with than Edwards, and maybe moreso than Obama.

However, I still think that closed primaries will serve her and Edwards better than Obama based on the breakdown of votes in Iowa.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:29 AM
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7. Simply put they are afraid of him. Because he can win.
He can win the South and he can unite the country and that is against "their" interests. The MSM needs suckers to vote for the status quo.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:36 AM
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9. That's it in a nutshell.
The corporate whores are working overtime to disappear Edwards.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM
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18. Yes he can!
He would beat whomever the pugs gave him to run against. That must be a really scary thought for them. With Hillary and Obama I guess they delude themselves into believing they stand a chance. (idiots!!)

We'll win with any one of ours candidates. I believe that. They are all good, highly qualified people. I just wish Edwards got a little credit for his outstanding qualifications and leadership.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:07 AM
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24. Self delete...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:17 AM by Indi Guy
...
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:36 AM
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10. The media is NOTHING BUT corporate greed...
they shovel us their shit and expect us to eat and shit it out and give it to our friends too.

I'm so effing tired of it.

Every progressive populist ever to run has been ignored and quickly forgotten after being deliberately booted out or assassinated.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:43 AM
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11. K&R!
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:53 AM
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13. I don't trust Edwards, but the way the corporate media keeps dissing him
has put me squarely in his corner.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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21. I have to be honest,
I'd been holding out for Gore...and had given little thought to anyone but until recently.

Now that I know who my choices are, and paying attention, I find myself in Edward's corner, myself. Not that I'm surprised. I've liked him since 2004 and felt at the time he would one day make good presidential material.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:54 AM
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14. The commercial media are part of the problem and Edwards is part of the solution, therefore,
Edwards is an anathema to the commercial media. That's how I see it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:57 AM
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15. I noticed on my local news, they said Obama, Clinton, Edwards
as they reported that Edwards finished second. Interesting that they did not say Obama, Edwards, Clinton. No?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:16 AM
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19. Yes,
I heard that too. And the alternate - Obama, Clinton, with no mention of Edwards at all.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:01 AM
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17. What prevents them? Look at who owns them...big corporations...
...have a stranglehold on the media in this country, just like they have a stranglehold on everything else - gas and oil, healthcare, jobs....and THAT is what Edwards has been promising to DO something about - the stranglehold corporations have on America...and THAT is what's preventing the LAMEstream media from giving Edwards much attention.

He's their nemesis - and OUR supporter. A man of the People and not of the Profit of big Corporations (who own the media).
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:37 PM
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35. And it really pisses me off.
It's hard to accept and I hope there is a way for Edwards to rise above it. I do think (and should take some comfort in the fact) that they are screwing themselves with the idea that leaving out the best and most qualified will give them the win. We have a win no matter what. And any one of our candidates will be a win for America.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:24 AM
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26. No, you're not imagining it.
They mention Edwards only when they absolutely have to - when there is no way around it. Even KO is guilty of this.

I think the reason has to do with the fact that Edwards is against the power and influence big corporations have, corporations that include the major TV networks.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:32 AM
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28. You're not imagining it at all.
It's the reality of the situation and damn disgusting if you ask me. They're frightened of him winning because of his anti-corporate and TRULY populist stance. So, they try to banish him from the minds of the electorate by not mentioning him -- even when he outperforms their chosen Democratic candidates, Senators Clinton and Obama.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:35 AM
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29. It's true
I hope he can somehow get some exposure to people who get their info. from the M$M. Many don't even know he exists, much less his message. Nightline tonight barely mentioned him, when they did it was negative and they still disputed his second placing.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 PM
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32. They are afraid of his message catching on.
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