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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:10 PM
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a great noise about religion
I've passed this letter around to Republicans in my family and it at least had made them think.


. . . Disdain mean suspicion, but cherish manly jealousy; be always jealous of your liberty, your rights. Nip the first bud of intrusion on your constitution. Be not devoted to men; let measures be your object, and estimate men according to the measures they pursue. Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. It converts religion into a principle of state policy, and the gospel into merchandise. Heaven forbids the bans of marriage between church and state; their embraces therefore, must be unlawful. Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, in choosing representatives. It is electioneering. If they knew the nature and worth of religion, they would not debauch it to such shameful purposes. If pure religion is the criterion to denominate candidates, those who make a noise about it must be rejected; for their wrangle about it, proves that they are void of it. Let honesty, talents and quick despatch, characterise the men of your choice. Such men will have a sympathy with their constituents, and will be willing to come to the light, that their deeds may be examined. . . .

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Excerpt from "July 4th Oration by John Leland, July 5, 1802". The Writings of John Leland, Edited by L.F. Greene, Arno Press & The New York Times New York (1969) pp.260-270) Originally published as: The Writings Of The Late Elder John Leland Including Some Events In His Life, Written By Himself, With Additional Sketches &c. By Miss L.F. Greene, Lanesboro, Mass. Printed By G.W. Wood, 29 Gold Street, New York 1845.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:18 PM
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1. All of which adds up to "If you care about what you believe, reject
religion in government, because it will make belief dependent and weak".
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:21 PM
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2. It really says it all about those
who use their religion in politics.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:22 PM
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3. Compare this to the current Baptist leaders.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:23 PM
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4. Indeed. n/t
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