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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:20 PM
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"The Embargo Has Been Lifted"
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&q=embargo">A round-up of news stories about how America wields embargos as a weapon.

As we enter 2008, we find that others are emulating the tactic.

- Dave
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:09 PM
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1. Phooey. I thought this had to do with the SooperDooperSpookyDarkAndDanky donor list. Oh well.
Maybe next time.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:10 PM
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2. That Topic Is Verboten until Further Notice...
... but if you care to dazzle us with your comprehension of the unintended effects that trade embargoes have, please ...

- Dave
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:25 PM
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3. Nah, I just thought it related to the SDSDAD list, is all. Happy 6,502nd post, though.
I rekon I'll have to work hard to keep ahead, so you'll have new Google results!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:27 PM
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4. Interestingly...
... it's been brought to my attention that you have http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=set_sort_key&forum=389¶m=author_name">no original threads in this forum.

Form follows function, yet again.

- Dave
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:06 AM
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5. Really? You find that interesting? I can't imagine why.
It could well be that you search in the wrong forums, and/or wrong time frames. But I cannot imagine why it would be particularly interesting. To each his own, though.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:08 AM
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:30 AM
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8. Maybe your research skills are weak. Or maybe you haven't been around DU very long.
Maybe you should consider that I may have posted threads based on my own long and unpleasant research, and don't bullshit around posting dozens of threads in a couple of days, but start threads when I have actual researched and organized information. Not vague unsubstantiated hints, but legitimate information with proof shown with direct links and posted graphics of docs.

Unfortunately, I learned more about how to read a 990 than anybody should give a shit about, other than an accountant. Consulted with many top election integrity activists, a very noted political science professor/activist, a law professor/charitable org tax law specialist/ textbook author. I spent a couple of years dealing with the crap. You aren't the only person to have had threats.

Maybe that's partly why some of your crap threads irritate me. I bent over backwards not to make unsubstantiated, vague accusations, but to back up what I presented.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:39 AM
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9. I also never solicited donations or tried to sell shit.
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 12:41 AM by troubleinwinter
Or promised information coming in the unknown future.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:45 AM
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11. Did You Write a Handbook on How to Do Everything Right?
Love to read it.

- Dave
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:53 AM
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12. Yes. Chaper 1 is entitled: 'Do Not Start A Dozen Threads On A Subject, Then Say:
"That Topic Is Verboten until Further Notice..."'

I would tell you the title of the second chapter, but that subject is verboten until further notice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:56 AM
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:12 AM
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14. Sorry about your delicate ears.
If you mean my reference to the non-existent product you're trying to sell through a link posted on DU, be sure to show them this direct link http://shop.bushbunglesbrigade.org/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=1&categoryId=1 to take payments for "pre-orders" that you have had up for well over a year, which links to a site that has never existed: www.bushbunglesbrigade.org
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:14 AM
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15. Thanks for Calling That to My Attention...
... I'll let the webmaster know that it's still up.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 01:52 AM
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16. Once Again, Jumping to Conclusions
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 01:53 AM by CorpGovActivist
"which links to a site that has never existed: www.bushbunglesbrigade.org"

Oh, it existed, and this is yet one more demonstration of how you leap to conclusions, without having all the facts in your fingers.

It featured such Bush Bunglers as George "Maccaca" Allen, Rick Santorum, etc.

But in your illogical universe, its lack of existence now means it never did.

- Dave
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:55 AM
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17. Wayback Machine seems to have reached the same conclusion.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:37 AM
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20. Once Again, You Lack Facts...
... are you aware that you can insert lines that will keep Wayback from grabbing?

No?

Do more reading at their site; a very nice guy there walked me through it a long time ago for some other sites, and helped me remove some information that shouldn't have been archived.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:51 AM
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21. A Spoonfed, Pinpointed Link for You...
http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#5

****************************************************
Why isn't the site I'm looking for in the archive?

Some sites may not be included because the automated crawlers were unaware of their existence at the time of the crawl. It's also possible that some sites were not archived because they were password protected, blocked by robots.txt, or otherwise inaccessible to our automated systems. Siteowners might have also requested that their sites be excluded from the Wayback Machine. When this has occurred, you will see a "blocked site error" message. When a site is excluded because of robots.txt you will see a "robots.txt query exclusion error" message.
****************************************************

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:42 AM
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10. Kudos to You...
... on all your important work, done your way.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 12:11 AM
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7. Trade Embargoes Such As Those Referenced in the OP...
... are having a lot of unintended consequences.

Should they continue to be used in the 21st century? If so, how to minimize the collateral damage to innocent civilians?

- Dave
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:04 AM
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18. Good post
It's called 'follow my orders or I'll starve you to death', deprive you of medical needs and anything else that will kill your citizens'.
There are no human rights, just the rights of the world's tyrants and bullies.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:35 AM
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19. Trade Embargoes Hurt Innocents...
... and hurt our image abroad, to boot.

Unless we can find a way to pinpoint their effects more effectively, we should seriously consider scrapping them.

- Dave
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