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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:38 PM
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My Vote for Decency
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 12:35 AM by Time for change
Some call it “moral values”. Some call it character. I call it decency. The general principle was enshrined in our Declaration of Independence more than two and a quarter centuries ago:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Those principles were expanded upon more than a decade later with the creation of our Constitution, especially its first ten amendments. Those amendments gave us freedom of speech, assembly and religion, freedom against unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom against arbitrary imprisonment, freedom against cruel and unusual punishment by our government and more.

The same principle is proclaimed by most or all of the world’s major religions in what is commonly known as “The Golden Rule”, which roughly translates to “Treat others as you want to be treated.”

In this post I will explain the reasons why decency (as evidenced by the totality of a candidate’s actions and words in demonstrating adherence to the above noted principles) is the most important attribute that I look for in determining my vote for the Presidency. Then I’ll discuss what this has to do with the Presidency of Jimmy Carter. And lastly I’ll explain why Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards are my two preferred candidates (which is not to imply that the other Democratic candidates aren’t decent people).


A brief overview of the deficient record of decency in the history of the United States

If this was just a matter of history, without direct relevance to our present times, it wouldn’t be so important to me. But that is sadly not the case:

Domestic history
Despite the great ideals laid forth in our Declaration of Independence and their basis in law set forth in our Constitution, it was clear from the birth of our nation that in reality those ideals were not meant to apply to large segments of our population, including women and people who didn’t own property. Most egregious of all were hundreds of thousands of former Africans who were born or sold into slavery, stripped of all rights whatsoever, and who often had to endure a lifetime of brutality at the hands of their white masters.

Though slavery was officially ended in 1865 with the passage of our 13th Amendment, and though our government sought for ten years to transform the freedoms granted our former slaves in theory into reality, that effort was abandoned with the end of Reconstruction in 1876. Then followed more than a half century of repression and terror in the South, aimed at preventing black Americans from attaining any kind of social, political, or economic equality with white Americans.

Though some major steps were taken in the 1950s and 1960s to bring the lives of African-Americans (and others who are discriminated against) closer to the ideals expressed in our Declaration and our Constitution, we still have a long way to go. Today 24% of African-Americans live in poverty, more than a quarter million are in prison for drug offenses alone (though only about 15% of drug users are black, blacks constitute about half of those imprisoned for drug offenses), and hundreds of thousands are disenfranchised from voting through a variety of dirty and illegal tricks.

Foreign history
In the foreign policy arena, our record isn’t any better. The continental expansion of our nation involved more than a century of wars against the then current inhabitants of our continent, leading to their near extermination and a war of aggression against Mexico (1846-8).

Then beginning in 1893, we overthrew, helped to overthrow, or went to war against the legitimate governments of dozens of nations, including Hawaii (1893), Cuba (1898), Puerto Rico (1898), the Philippines (1899-1902), Nicaragua (1909), Honduras (1912), Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), Indonesia (1965), Vietnam (1961-73), Chile (1973), Panama (1989), and Iraq (2003-???).

As an example of what these interventions entailed, William Blum writes in “A Concise History of US Global Interventions, 1945 to the Present”, about United States intervention in 11 different Latin American countries during the Cold War. The main purpose of these interventions was to facilitate changes to regimes that were friendlier to the United States. For this purpose, we developed the School of the Americas, which was used to train native personnel in the techniques and ideology of insurgency and counter-insurgency, including torture. This placed the U.S. in opposition to any who sought free speech to discuss problems, alternative means to solve problems, or democratic means to change governments. More specifically, the enemy was identified as the poor, those who assist the poor, such as church workers, educators, and unions, and those who held certain ideologies such as “socialism” or “liberation theology”.


The Jimmy Carter Presidency

Why write about the Carter Presidency now that we’re just about to start the Presidential primary season that will result in a newly elected President in less than a year?

Jimmy Carter is perhaps the most decent U.S. President of my lifetime, and also the most unfairly maligned. I don’t claim that Carter didn’t make his share of mistakes. But sandwiched in between a good many U.S. presidents who did more than their share of contributing to the shameful U.S. foreign policy history described above, Jimmy Carter valiantly tried to turn our country in a different direction. His efforts to move his country away from imperialism and towards peaceful coexistence with the other nations of the world challenged certain powerful entrenched interests in our country. In my opinion, that is the primary reason why he is so maligned today – not the mistakes he made or the bad luck that befell him.

This is not water under the bridge. In my opinion Carter’s presidency should serve as a model for us in many respects. But as long as Carter’s Presidency continues to be maligned, as right wing ideologues have so long conspired to effect, future U.S. Presidential candidates and Presidents will tend to feel pressure against embracing what he stood for. That would be very bad for our country.

Carter on racial discrimination
As a Georgia politician in the days when racial prejudice was the accepted norm in the U.S. South, there must have been a good deal of political pressure on Jimmy Carter to go the road of most Southern politicians. But Carter never succumbed to that temptation. In both his political campaigns and in his official actions he showed that he was above that:

As Governor of Georgia, Carter worked hard to heal the state's racial divisions, announcing in his inaugural address that "the time for racial discrimination is over." It was an unprecedented statement for a southern governor, but Carter made good on his words. He increased the number of African American state employees by 40 percent and hung portraits of Martin Luther King Jr. and other notable black Georgians in the state capitol. He equalized the funding of schools in rich and poor districts of the state…

Carter’s efforts to stem the tide of U.S. imperialism
On the campaign trail in 1976, Carter was an outspoken critic of U.S. imperialism:

We’re ashamed of what our government is as we deal with other nations around the world… What we seek is … a foreign policy that reflects the decency and generosity and common sense of our own people.

Morris Berman, in his book “Dark Ages America – The Final Phases of Empire”, discusses Carter’s commitment to human rights as President:

Carter never stopped talking about the subject… He cut out aid to Argentina, Ethiopia, Uruguay, Chile, Nicaragua, Rhodesia, and Uganda because of human rights abuses

Berman discusses the hopes engendered by Carter’s 1976 election to the Presidency and how the American people turned out not to be ready for that kind of change:

For a brief moment in American postwar history, the position of sanity found an echo… We would work for a more humane world order in our international relations, not seek merely to defeat an adversary; military solution would not come first; efforts would be made to reduce the sale of arms to developing countries…

But… the Carter morality was, within two years, heavily out of step with the return to the usual public demand for a more muscular and military foreign policy… Out-of-office cold warriors closed ranks, forming organizations such as the Committee on the Present Danger… Their goal – to revive the Cold War – was ultimately successful; Ronald Reagan and CIA-assisted torture in Central America were the inevitable results. And in the course of all this, a picture was formed of Jimmy Carter as weak, bungling, inept… That Carter would be perceived as weak, and presidents such as Reagan and Bush Jr. as strong, says a lot about who we are as a people…

And Berman explains why our country was not ready for a President like Jimmy Carter:

Americans as a people don’t really like to look inward… When Carter asked us to look at our wasteful energy policy, our self-contradictory foreign policy, and our questionable political morality, he was asking us to reflect on ourselves, on who we were… And this would have inevitably led to looking at ourselves from the outside, seeing ourselves as others saw us.


Why character is so important to me in determining my vote for president

To me, the character of the candidates is even more important than their stated positions on issues. To explain why I feel that way, consider the Iraq War for example. All current Democratic candidates say that they intend to end our involvement in that war. Yes, their plans differ in details as to how they would end our involvement and how long they think it might take. And that is all important.

But what is more important is what they will actually do once elected. Saying that they intend to end our involvement in the war does not necessarily mean that they will actually do so or even that they really want to. I’m not certain that all of our Democratic candidates actually intend to end the war if that means terminating U.S. presence in the region. I feel that I have to judge their character – their decency – in order to attempt to ascertain what they will actually do as President.

It is not decent for a nation to repeatedly overthrow the democratically elected governments of other nations or to go to war against them in order to serve its own self-interest.

It is not decent for a nation to run up huge debts that will greatly burden future generations.

It is not decent for the most powerful nation in the world to refuse to work with other nations to preserve our environment for future generations – especially when that nation is itself responsible for about highly disproportionate extent of the problem.

It is not decent to imprison people indefinitely without trial or charges.

It is not decent to torture people.

It is not decent that in the wealthiest nation in the world, 37 million people, constituting almost 13% of the nation’s population, live in poverty.

It is not decent that 47 million Americans are without health insurance.

The most important factor in deciding my vote for President of the United States will be which candidate most shares my views about decency, as iterated above.


Why I intend to vote for Kucinich or Edwards

Dennis Kucinich is my favorite candidate. I intend to vote for him unless his candidacy does not appear to be viable by the time of the Maryland primaries – in which case I will vote for John Edwards. To explain how I’ve come to this decision I’ll end this post by saying a few words about Kucinich, Edwards, and the two Democratic front runners:

Clinton
Though Hillary Clinton has a very good voting record, not including her votes on the Iraq War Resolution and the Kyle-Lieberman Amendment, the great amount of money she’s accepted from corporate lobbyists is worrisome. She has said that taking money from lobbyists does not cause her “to be influenced by a lobbyist or a particular interest group”. That statement in itself is worrisome, since it appears to imply that the mixing of money and politics is not a serious threat to our democracy. An excerpt from a recent article in The Nation sums up what I agree has been an extremely cautious campaign:

Hillary Clinton has proven herself a dedicated centrist, and when the center moves left, she has shown she can move too. When it comes to trade and globalization, she has shifted from being an ardent supporter of NAFTA to calling for a "timeout" on all such deals

Obama
There are many good things that can be said about Barack Obama. A major problem that I have with him, however, is his substantial efforts to position himself towards the center. These are his own words from his book, “The Audacity of Hope”:

We Democrats are just, well, confused. There are those who still champion the old-time religion, defending every New Deal and Great Society program from Republican encroachment, achieving ratings of 100 percent from the liberal interest groups …

Mainly, though, the Democratic Party has become the party of reaction. In reaction to a war that is ill conceived, we appear suspicious of all military action. In reaction to those who proclaim the market can cure all ills, we resist efforts to use market principles to tackle pressing problems… We lose elections and hope for the courts to foil Republican plans. We lose the courts and wait for a White House scandal. And increasingly we feel the need to match the Republican right in stridency and hardball tactics…

There are many legitimate criticisms that one could level at the Democratic Party. But to criticize it as being too liberal is not something that I look for in a candidate for President. And to say that Democrats are too “suspicious of all military action” is a deal breaker as far as I’m concerned. What the hell military action is he talking about that Democrats have been suspicious of but shouldn’t have been suspicious of?

Edwards
The main thing that very much excites me about Edwards’ candidacy is his dedication to eradicating poverty. In a previous post I’ve discussed the fact that his plans to address this issue are far superior to any of the other candidates, with Kucinich being the only one close to him.

Poverty has not been a popular issue in American politics. In fact, it’s almost been a taboo subject. Edwards’ campaigns have given it new life as an issue. He has been very consistent in emphasizing it as a centerpiece of his campaigns – in both 2004 and 2008. The claims of his “sudden transformation” into a populist candidate are difficult for me to fathom. I agree with what The Nation has to say about him:

Edwards has displayed a smart, necessary partisanship – denouncing corporate power and its crippling influence on government. He has argued with conviction that government does best when it does more for its citizens. His campaign has met some roadblocks… Perhaps some have been turned off by the media's relentless fixation on the "three H's" – haircuts, hedge funds and houses--symbols of the gap between his populist rhetoric and his lifestyle. Nonetheless, he has been at his best when taking on spiraling economic inequality. In a series of bold initiatives, he has called for an end to poverty in thirty years, universal healthcare, a hike in the minimum wage to $9.50 by 2012 and an 80 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 – accomplished in part by the creation of a green-collar jobs corps. His policy proposals are not always perfect, but they are uncommonly detailed and crafted in conjunction with progressive organizations. Most important, his programs were announced first, and they clearly pushed Clinton and Obama in a progressive direction.

His 2002 vote for the Iraq War resolution does worry me, and is one important reason why I prefer Kucinich. People will just have to decide for themselves whether or not he is sincere in his admission that that vote was a mistake. I believe he is.

Kucinich
I agree with Kucinich on just about everything. A President Kucinich would unquestionably make every effort to lead a government that seeks a foreign policy that is decent and generous, as Jimmy Carter did. Most important he is the only candidate with the courage to tell the American people what the real reason for the Iraq War was and is, and he is the only candidate to call for impeachment of the most lawless President and Vice President our country has ever known. That takes a lot of courage. This is what The Nation had to say about him:

In his stands on the issues, Dennis Kucinich comes closest to embodying the ideals of this magazine. He has been a forceful critic of the Bush Administration, opposing the Patriot Act and spearheading the motion to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney. He is the only candidate to have voted against the Iraq War in 2003 and has voted against funding it ever since. Of all the serious candidates, only he and Governor Bill Richardson propose a full and immediate withdrawal from Iraq. And only Kucinich's plan sets aside funds for reparations. Moreover, Kucinich has used his presidential campaigns to champion issues like cutting the military budget and abolishing nuclear weapons; universal, single-payer healthcare; campaign finance reform; same-sex marriage and an end to the death penalty and the war on drugs. A vote for him would be a principled one.

But for reasons that have to do with the corrupting influence of money and media on national elections as well as with his campaign's shortcomings – such as its failure to organize a grassroots base of donors and web activists – a democratic mass movement has not coalesced around Kucinich's run for President. The progressive vision is there, but the strategy necessary to win and then govern is lacking.

Well, we’ll see about that. If he manages to find a strategy capable of winning, I don’t doubt that he’ll likely find one capable of governing as well. Anyhow, despite his poor showing in the polls thus far, I don’t think that it’s right to count him out before the first vote has been cast.


As I’ve said before, I will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee, for the simple reason that I believe all eight of them to be far better choices than anyone who has any chance of winning the Republican nomination.

I believe that a U.S. President who will make a concerted effort to reverse the tide of U.S. imperialism or to end poverty in our country or both will go a long way towards making us a more decent society. As far as I can see, Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards have shown the greatest promise of doing those things.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:42 PM
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1. Frohes Neues, TfC!!!
K&fickenR!!! :loveya:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:26 AM
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10. Thank you Karenina
And Happy New Year to you.
:party: :hug:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:45 PM
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2. A pleasure -
Thank you and this is truth: "Jimmy Carter is perhaps the most decent U.S. President of my lifetime" - I have held deep respect President Carter.

:toast: for the New Year and K&R!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:42 AM
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11. No doubt about it -- Yet Republicans are still attacking Carter today
Giuliani does it regularly, trying to make the point that Republicans are stronger than Democrats on national defense. He uses the Iran hostage crisis to make his point, blaming it on Carter, and claiming that Reagan was able to secure the release of the hostages within 2 minutes of taking office. At a recent debate:

Speaking of Iran, Giuliani said "they looked in Ronald Reagan's eyes and in two minutes they released the hostages." That was a reference to the U.S. hostages released from captivity on the day of Reagan's inauguration in 1981.

Apparently Giuliani is too stupid to recognize how suspicious that sounds:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1279070
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:50 PM
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3. Kicked and recommended!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:59 PM
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4. Fabulous read. Thank you.
K&R.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:33 AM
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5. K&R
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:43 AM
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6. CHEEk/RS!
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:58 AM
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7. Bravo Tfc! K & R
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:10 AM
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8. There's no accreditation I can give to
this work beyond recommending it to my fellow DUers.

But this is great work, and I want you to know that I appreciate it.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:13 PM
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12. Thank you bleever -- Actually, I have to make a correction to my OP
I said in the OP that, referring to the Iraq War, that:

"It is not decent for a nation to repeatedly overthrow the democratically elected governments of other nations or to go to war against them in order to serve its own self-interest."

Actually, neither the Iraq war nor most ill advised U.S. wars are in the interest of our nation or the American people in general. Rather, the Iraq War, and many of the regime changes our nation has participated in, have been in the interests only of a small group of wealthy people who profited greatly from them, at the expense of everyone else. The American people have not profited at all from the Iraq War -- rather, they have paid dearly for it in many ways.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:12 AM
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9. An inspiring start for 2008. Keep writing because...
...it's time for change!

Happy New Year!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:16 PM
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14. Thank you puebloknot
and Happy New Year to you :toast:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:16 PM
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13. Excellent! K&R.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:12 PM
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15. Kudos TFC, Brilliant!
Jimmy Carter was the best President in my lifetime. We had a golden moment during his Presidency to change the direction of this country and the planet. That golden moment was squandered when forces conspired to assure he would never serve a second term. Ronnie the Raygun should have been a passing blip in American history, but thanks to the BFEE, the Saudis and the corporate military/industrial complex, we were treated to "Morning in America." The devastating path that the Raygun presidency set us upon is what has allowed cheney*/bush* to brutalize the planet today.

One need only examine the acts of previous Presidents to know their true colors. All--including Clinton--except for Carter have leveraged their time at 1600 as a way to fill their personal coffers by speeches, appearances, campaigning for their spouses. Jimmy Carter builds houses for the poor and travels the world to ensure fair elections. By their actions, you shall know them.

Wake up America!:kick:

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:33 PM
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22. Thank you Raster -- Raygun is indeed a blight on our country and sad testimony as to the
character of those Americans who support him IMO.

In addition to Carter, I also believe that Kennedy during the latter part of his administration was in the process of making valient efforts to change our course, and I believe that is why he was killed.

A few months before he was assassinated, John F. Kennedy gave a great and radical speech on behalf of peace that probably seemed terribly threatening to the military industrial complex. Here are some excerpts:

Some say that it is useless to speak of world peace or world law or world disarmament -- and that it will be useless until the leaders of the Soviet Union adopt a more enlightened attitude. I hope they do. I believe we can help them do it. But I also believe that we must re-examine our own attitude -- as individuals and as a Nation -- for our attitude is as essential as theirs. And every… thoughtful citizen who despairs of war and wishes to bring peace, should begin by looking inward -- by examining his own attitude toward the possibilities of peace, toward the Soviet Union, toward the course of the Cold War and toward freedom and peace here at home.

First let us examine our attitude toward peace itself. Too many of us think it is impossible. Too many of us think it is unreal. But that is dangerous, defeatist belief. It leads to the conclusion that war is inevitable -- that mankind is doomed -- that we are gripped by forces we cannot control…

Let us focus instead on a more practical, more attainable peace -- based not on a sudden revolution in human nature but on a gradual evolution in human institutions -- on a series of concrete actions and effective agreements which are in the interest of all concerned.

There is no single, simple key to this peace -- no grand or magic formula to be adopted by one or two powers. Genuine peace must be the product of many nations, the sum of many acts. It must be dynamic, not static, changing to meet the challenge of each new generation. For peace is a process -- a way of solving problems.

Six weeks later, Kennedy announced to the American people the first nuclear test ban treaty between the United States and the Soviet Union. He then undertook secret negotiations with Fidel Castro in an attempt to come to an accommodation with him. And, he began talking with his close associates about pulling out of Vietnam.

Kennedy was killed about four months after his speech. Officially, his death was the work of a lone gunman, shooting him in the back of the head from a book depository in Dallas. Suffice it to say that, in addition to a wealth of other evidence pointing towards a conspiracy, all ten physicians who treated him at the hospital on the day of his assassination have said that either the throat wound or the head wound that killed him, or both, entered him from the front.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:51 PM
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23. TFC, there have been several critical turning points in our country's history, and I too...
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 08:52 PM by Raster
believe certain factions took matters into their hands to make sure this country did not take the peaceful, non-military path. President Eisenhower warned the country that the military/industrial complex was a danger to our peace and prosperity. Imagine the good this country could have done for ourselves and the entire world if we did not allow the military/industrial machine, the corporate behemoths AND the Texas Petroleum Mafia to guide our country's destiny.

Again, thank you. Your articles, essays and journal entries ALWAYS make me think. And I always reach the same conclusion. Bless your heart.

Wake up America!:kick:

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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:49 PM
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16. This is about the real America, as I see it,
without the military industrial complex' twisting and distorting our national identity and mission. Liberty and justice for all became liberty and justice for the powerful.
Keep writing Time for Change, you have pared the issues down to the essential.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:01 PM
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25. Thank you windoe -- The MIC is a major cause of the distorting of our national identity for evil
purposes.

But it's not the only cause. There are numerous corporate players involved in the outrages perpetrated upon the American people and many other victims around the world. I think that the common denominator is the cozy and corrupt relationships between government and corporate interests, which ensures the financial success of a small minority of powerful and wealthy people at the expense of everyone else. Otherwise known as fascism.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:11 PM
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17. The Council on Foreign Relations evaluations of Kucinich and Edwards plans to fight global warming
The Council of Foreign Relations recently put out an article titled “The Candidates on Climate Change”, in which they detailed the positions of all declared presidential candidates on this issue. They note with respect to a May 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC) which said “The rise in global carbon emissions would need to cease by 2015 to stabilize global temperatures”, that there was a world of difference between the Democratic and Republican candidates’ response to that report:

Democratic candidates seized on the reports as evidence of a need for federal action on carbon emissions. Most Republican candidates, excepting Sen. John McCain, have been wary of embracing federally mandated controls on emissions.

They especially singled out for praise three of the Democratic candidates’ positions (though they were positive towards all of the Democratic candidates - plus McCain):

Edwards:
The League of Conservation Voters has called Edwards’ plan to combat climate change, which would impose a cap that would reduce emissions by 80 percent by 2050, “the most comprehensive global warming plan of any presidential candidate to date.”

Kucinich:
Rep. Kucinich (D-OH) has been one of the leading voices for legislation to stop climate change for the past several years. In this interview with the BBC, Kucinich says the United States has a “moral responsibility to lead on the issue of climate change, since we create so many greenhouse gases here, and have a very large carbon footprint."

Biden:
Sen. Biden (D-DE) has been a prominent voice calling for legislation to stop climate change. In February 2007, after the release of the IPCC report, Biden urged fellow lawmakers and President Bush to take action, saying, “We have wasted the past six years on the sidelines of international negotiations and our leadership is needed to produce a global solution.”

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:23 PM
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18. Thank you for an insightful post. I remember a few years ago reading
an article on the editorial page of the Courier Journal about the good job Jimmy Carter did as president. I was very impressed. The GOPer blast machine was at full bore even back then and so much of Carter's goodness, which threatened the future evil doers, was immediately deplored. So much of the article was actually a lost memory. He is certainly the most important ex-pres in my lifetime. Clinton runs him a close second. W will be out there aggrandizing himself, just like the loser he has always been.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:52 PM
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27. Yep -- Unfortunately our corporate media did such a hatchet job on his presidency
that it contributed to an attitude on the part of way too many Americans that believes that trying to avoid war indicates "weakness". Bellicose beligerance, on the other hand, rather than being seen as irresponsible, is often seen as courage. That's one of our greatest problems IMO.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:29 PM
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19. Currently changing my skill sets so that I can continue
working in this world and feel good about what I do. Decency and respect. Great attributes for which to strive.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:17 PM
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20. Great post as usual!! n/t
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:39 PM
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21. beautiful post
Great work. Thanks.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:59 PM
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24. Nicely done!
Kudos. k&r

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:30 PM
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26. The best election post yet!
Brilliant! I agree 100%
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