Rod Parsley 2005: Ohio will be a training ground to launch a national reformation....a theocracy.

[madfloridian]

The state of Ohio was being set up as a battleground for the forces of theocracy. The dominionists, you might say. Parsley and others were not even secretive about their intent. They did work quietly to achieve it with leaders of the Republican party. We knew, but we did not really take in the implications about what would happen there in Ohio.

From Theocracy Watch, some statements by Bill Moyers.

Ohio's Patriot Pastors

Let's take a brief detour to Ohio and I'll show you what I am talking about. In recent weeks a movement called the Ohio Restoration Project has been launched to identify and train thousands of "Patriot Pastors" to get out the conservative religious vote next year. According to press reports, the leader of the movement- the senior pastor of a large church in suburban Columbus-casts the 2006 elections as an apocalyptic clash between "the forces of righteousness and the hordes of hell." The fear and loathing in his message is palpable: He denounces public schools that won't teach creationism, require teachers to read the Bible in class, or allow children to pray. He rails against the "secular jihadists" who have "hijacked" America and prevent school kids from learning that Hitler was "an avid evolutionist." He links abortion to children who murder their parents. He blasts the "pagan left" for trying to redefine marriage. He declares that "homosexual rights" will bring "a flood of demonic oppression." On his church website you read that "Reclaiming the teaching of our Christian heritage among America's youth is paramount to a sense of national destiny that God has invested into this nation."

At a press conference in 2005 Parsley revealed his plans for Ohio. I was watching "So Goes the Nation" this week, and his plan appears to have worked. One couple even admitted they voted against their own economic interests because it was better to have "live babies" than "full wallets." They got their agenda across very successfully.

For about 90 minutes, Parsley, standing in front of U.S., Ohio and Christian flags, ran through an almost seamless presentation.

``The vision of our country's founding generation and the inspiration of great reformers of the past are colliding with unprecedented moral decay and cultural decline,'' Parsley told the crowd. ``Today we come to declare a new movement that is an answer to the crisis of our times.''

Ohio will be a training ground that will launch a national reformation, he said. At his call, the crowd repeated several times the Ohio state motto, ``With God, all things are possible,'' with a volume that reverberated against the tall buildings surrounding the Statehouse. He brought with him his own security, a media relations firm, singers, rappers and television cameras. A big-screen television near Parsley played a three-minute video on the effort to save Ohio, including the institution of marriage.

Parsley said he has a three-fold plan: evangelize at least a million people, one in 10 of whom will become converts; help the disadvantaged; and register up to 400,000 new Ohio voters over the next four years.

I believe in "So Goes the Nation" that Paul Begala stated the GOP had come up with 11 million votes and caught the Democrats off guard.

Moyers stated that the Patriot Pastors idea is spreading.

For the complete stories from which this information has been extracted, see: "An evening with Rod Parsley, by Marley Greiner, FreePress, July 20, 2005; Patriot Pastors," Marilyn Warfield, Cleveland Jewish News , July 29, 2005; "Ohio televangelist has plenty of influence, but he wants more", Ted Wendling, Religion News Service , Chicago Tribune, July 1, 2005; "Shaping Politics from the pulpits," Susan Page, USA Today , Aug. 3, 2005; "Religion and Politics Should Be Mixed Says Ohio Secretary of State," WTOL-TV Toledo, October 29, 2004.

The Ohio Restoration Project is spreading. In one month alone last year in the president's home state of Texas, a single Baptist preacher added 2000 "Patriot Pastors" to the rolls. On his website he now encourages pastors to "speak out on the great moral issues of our day.to restore and reclaim America for Christ."

Texas was one of the main states in which this movement arose. The Republicans there actually put it in their Platform.

More from the Texas Republican Party Platform. This is alarming.

Highlights
Tax Cuts, p. 17 - "The Party urges the IRS be abolished," and the following taxes eliminated: "income tax, inheritance tax, gift tax, capital gains, corporate income tax, payroll tax and property tax."

Tax cuts are accompanied by Downsizing the Federal Government on p. 19 -

We support the abolition of ... the Bureau of Tobacco and Firearms, the position of Surgeon General, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Departments of Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Health and Human Services, Education, Commerce and Labor. We also call for the de-funding or abolition of the National Endowment for the Arts, and Public Broadcasting System.

Deregulation - Adherents of Dominion Theology support deregulation of industry. They use terms such as "unfettered" or "unhampered" by regulation. The first three agencies listed in the above paragraph are all regulatory agencies. The Texas GOP Platform calls for business to be "unencumbered by excessive government regulation." (p.1, preamble)

Biblical Law - Dominion theology calls for a government based on Biblical Law, relying on the Ten Commandments as its guiding source. Therefore, posting of the Ten Commandments in public buildings has great symbolic value.

I also watched Jesus Camp this week on A&E network. I thought how good it had been shut down. But they are not done yet. They may be a minority, but they are powerful and well-funded.

We can not afford to sit back and not take it seriously. I saw it happen in my Southern Baptist church before I could even take it all in. That fervor, that push even for war, that use of the word "unpatriotic" against those of us who spoke out and left the church.

That is why I have a lot of skepticism about this new push for unity and bipartisanship.

They will not give up their agenda, period. We can not compromise with them because they will win.

[msongs]

1. they've shifted their activity to the military, where the Democratic Party INC won't oppose them nt

[defendandprotect]

34. Just a reminder that they were trying this during JFK's presidency; he fired Gen.Edwin G. Walker - !

Sound familiar --- General Edwin G. Walker --- ?
He's the guy that Oswald allegedly shot at ---
Walker was trying to indoctrinate military troosp with Nazi and Christian propaganda ---

Walker is also the guy who played a huge role in the racist riot at Ole Miss -
he was arrested there.

Meanwhile, we now know that Oswald "was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments
and probably also for the FBI."

[musette_sf]

2. Rod is Kenneth Blackwell's BFF

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2006/03/10... /

http://www.yuricareport.com/Ohio/PastorAcknowledgesPoli...

http://www.secularleft.us/archives/2006/01/rev_rod_pars...

For those of you into Recreational "Christianity", aka Know Your Enemy, Rod's weekly Dominionist-Fest usually is aired on Sundays on TBN, right after John Hagee's Apocalypto-Fest.

[patrice]

3. What's scarey is that these people spend all day, every day, working on

their agenda. Not only are they PAID to take over this country, they don't have to pay taxes on what they earn to do that!!



And the rest of us have to fight them on our free time from earning a living in a man-killing job market.

[madfloridian]

8. Tax-exempt, and if they are called on it they say they don't endorse candidates.

Which is really BS, as they make their issues so clear that the congregations know who to vote for.

[OHdem10]

4. This is why I oppose Huckabee.

Ignore all these activities at our peril.

[Kip Humphrey]

5. This is the greatest threat we face

I would add Mormans to the list of theocratic threats as well. The U.S. is their "Promised Land" which is rightfully destined to be theirs. Then there are the fundamentalist evangelical Rapturists who want nothing more than the end of the world.

The threat of Theocracy is deadly real.

[defendandprotect]

35. No -- Global Warming which they also deny is the greatest threat we face ---

[defendandprotect]

36. No -- Global Warming which they also deny is the greatest threat we face ---

[Kip Humphrey]

39. An American Theocracy would exactly doom this world to runaway global warming if we're

still alive to suffer its consequences. 2012 is sooner than 2016 and 2008 sooner still. So, the time to prevent the rooting of an American theocracy in the White House is now. Without that, stock up on sun block. You're going to need it.

[defendandprotect]

47. No one is doing anything about Global Warming right now ---

anything meaningful like nationalizing our natural resources -- oil
and taking it back from the control of a few private families ---

Electric Cars --- which we could put on our highways in a few years --
subsidizing the manufacture and purchase ---

Let's just say, IMO, Global Warming is going to sink us before Fundies make us all go to church ---

Don't think it's a tie ---

[Yael]

6. Don't underestimate him - he is not an evangelical, he is a Dominionist

The kind that believes that the church has to "purify" the world before Christ returns.

As a Christian, they scare me. Seriously.

[madfloridian]

7. I don't understand their concern about government deregulation.

The Dominionists that is. Look at this from the TX Repub party site.

"Deregulation - Adherents of Dominion Theology support deregulation of industry. They use terms such as "unfettered" or "unhampered" by regulation. The first three agencies listed in the above paragraph are all regulatory agencies. The Texas GOP Platform calls for business to be "unencumbered by excessive government regulation." (p.1, preamble"

Why would it matter to them?

[Yael]

18. They don't believe that they should be under the rule of anything secular

I can't underscore how insane these people are. It made my blood run cold to see Parsley joining the ranks with Rick Joyner and the Kansas City Profits. While they are the founders of this, he has the deep pockets from his years of fleecing the flock for fun and profit.

[Leopolds Ghost]

24. Aren't corporations secular? Don't corporations rule government and direct profits to themselves?

Corporate rule is demonic. Christians should be fighting the Empire
peacefully, just like Jesus intended. These people are heretics looking
to set up a new Empire on earth. Orthodox Christians (and Jews) are
against them.

[Yael]

32. Yes, but they are owned and run by people

These people believe that heaven is on earth and that they have been given a supernatural mandate to take over and force their rule.

Scary stuff.

[madfloridian]

9. Bill Moyers says Parsley is the new Robertson and Falwell, says keep an eye on him.

He wrote more about him at Huffington Post in his blog there in 2005. That must have been quite get together in Austin with Governor Good Hair.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-moyers/the-texas-obs...

Consider the scene just a few weeks ago when your Gov. Perry, surrounded by cheering God-folk, showed up at a pep rally in Fort Worth for yet another cleverly staged bashing of gay people, contrived to keep the pious signed on for the culture war so they won’t know they are losing the class war waged against them in Austin by the governor and his rich corporate patrons. The main speaker was none other than the Rev. Rod Parsley of Ohio. Keep your eyes on Rev. Parsley. He is the new incarnation of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, that devout duo who channeled Elmer Gantry into a new political religion driven by an obsession to punish people on account of sex. Parsley runs a multimillion-dollar-a-year televangelism ministry based in Columbus, Ohio, with access worldwide to 400 TV stations and cable affiliates. He describes himself as neither Republican nor Democrat but a “Christo-crat” —a gladiator for God marching against “the very hordes of hell in our society.” But he shows up with so many Republicans that he has been publicly described as the party’s “spiritual advisor.”

And J. Kenneth of Ohio was there in Austin.

So what was it that brought Rev. Parsley to Austin recently to meet with Gov. Perry? Both showed up for a “Pastors’ Policy Briefing” sponsored by the Texas Restoration Project (not to be confused with Reformation Ohio, unless you think of kissin’ cousins). Once again the aim is to sign up “Patriot Pastors” who will call on their congregations to vote the Lord’s will on Election Day. Also present in Austin was Ohio’s secretary of state, Ken Blackwell. You will remember him as the overseer of the election process in Ohio last year when a surge of conservative Christian voters narrowly carried Bush to victory there. Yes, the same Ken Blackwell who had modestly acknowledged that “God wanted him as secretary of state in 2004” because it was such a critical election. Now, apparently, he has been divinely designated for higher office. One wonders what Blackwell, Perry and Parsley were really talking about when they got down on their knees here in Austin. We will never know, because the praying and preaching and politicking were closed to the press, as befits the stealth salvation they are plotting for Texas.

[mtnester]

21. Rodney is a douchebag

who will eventually, if necessary, be taken down by every person he ever grew up around or went to school with.

The people that go to his church MOVE here from out of state. Those of us who have known him since he was a grade school kid simply remember him as a sniveling weasel who used to tag along with ANYONE as long as he thought association would bring coolness. A hanger on who NEVER provided the weed, only smoked other people's stuff. Nothing has changed.

If he did not found his megachurch, he would have invented the Rwandan delegate letter.

And his bestest friend upstanding individual Russel Johnson is hiding out in shame somewhere...no one knows where, and no one knows yet how much money is missing, exactly, from the church.

They ALL fall the same way. And I firmly believe they all get the same treatment and lecture at the gates. It is a speech written special, just for people like him.

[johnfunk]

10. "unity and bipartisanship" = "backroom deals and K Street in charge"

Grover Norquist once described bipartisanship as "date rape" (with Democrats as the victim).

[madfloridian]

11. I fear Norquist is right. Remember the bathtub he wanted to drown government in?

Well, they have done a pretty good damn job with some of the most important parts of it.

What a mean and nasty group they are.

[nealmhughes]

12. Mr. Paisley can't heal or drive away hurricanes, and his sick and afflicted don't even get the bene

of a being "slain in the spirit." Low camp value. No glossalalia, no set left over from filing Gigi as have the pink wigged woman and her loud grey husband in the hideous Italian silk shirts. Of course, the lovely couple Jan and Paul Squat. Where are Earnest Angely these days or Peter Popoff? We need to put the camp back into camp meeting!

[madfloridian]

13. ABC says Peter Popoff making a comeback. ;-)

The Rev. Peter Popoff says on his television show that he has the key to success and healing: a small plastic packet filled with miracle spring water. (ABC)

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=3164858&page=1

"Before the shows began, she pre-interviewed audience members and asked them to fill out "prayer cards" with their names and addresses. Then, during the healing service, she passed that information on to Popoff through a hidden wireless earpiece he wore. Those audio transmissions  intercepted by Randi  showed Popoff being prompted by Elizabeth to pick specific audience members to speak to. Elizabeth  hidden offstage  would tell her husband their names, home addresses and ailments. Popoff then proclaimed that information to an amazed audience.

Suddenly, the miracles seemed a bit less miraculous, and after Randi played his shocking tapes on "The Tonight Show," Popoff's career went downhill fast. He reportedly filed for bankruptcy and went off the air for a time.

Almost 20 years later, his comeback now seems nearly complete, as he is back on the air pushing miracles again. Today, Popoff's program airs on seven cable TV networks, 23 times a week."

Maybe he can help out Rod Parsley.

[Kucinich4America]

14. Parsely is probably the second most dangerous televangelist/dominionist in the country.

Number 1 would be John "Bomb the Living Fuck out of Iran" Hagee.

Interesting Parsley sidebar though.... his brother replaced Reverend Meth and Man-ass Ted Haggard at the New Life church in Colorado Springs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MDQkXodLyY

[madfloridian]

16. There's a Brad and a Ross Parsley. Which is which?

And aren't they both at New Life Church? Isn't one his son?

Yes, I agree he is dangerous.

[candymarl]

15. I agree

None of these folks will go quietly into the night. Not the hard-core Neocons, not the Dominionists, not the Corporate power structure. They don't want unity. They want the unwashed masses to sit down and shut up. Let them run things. They know what's best for us. It's 1984 and the Year of Our Lord Ford.

[ClintonTyree]

40. And it boggles my mind.....

that there are so many willing sheep who hang on every word these snake oil salesmen utter. What's happened to these peoples' individuality, their thirst for knowledge? I guess the bible's first lesson, "do not eat from the tree of knowledge", is indelibly etched upon their minds. They're all too willing to submit, to blindly follow anyone who claims to have a direct line to their god's ear.

I cannot begin to tell you how little I respect these weak-minded sheep. I had hoped the new millennium would bring an enlightenment to a world so deeply and darkly ensconced in ridiculous religious dogma. It seems to be trending in the opposite direction though, with more and more scared, weak-minded religious zealots intent upon cramming their supernatural hogwash down the entire country's throats.

These people are extremely dangerous. "A Handmaid's Tale" is becoming closer and closer to reality all because of a fairy tale told by those who want to control the world and every inhabitant upon it.

WHY are people so damned gullible? That's the burning question within me that I'll never be able to wrap my mind around. What is the incessant need for these people to believe in a supreme being, an angry daddy intent upon damning them to eternal punishment if they don't sing his praises 24/7? How freaking stupid can they be?

What a sad commentary on our society that we're writing the postmortem on the age of reason at a time when reason and enlightenment should be flourishing. Religion is insanity, writ large.

[mwb970]

42. The sad thing is how many Americans are "weak-minded sheep."

I am so envious of Europe, where they have progressive politics and (mostly) common-sense policies. America looks like a backwards nation by comparison because of our excessively high number of religious zealots and mindless right-wing yahoos.

America seems to be sliding backwards even as Europe continues to move forward. We spend all our time debating evolution and talking about whether torture is wrong. Do they know how lucky they are that we have all the idiots over here?

[madfloridian]

17. From TAP...a Democratic pastor works with him.

From 2005, October...an article at the American Prospect:

With God On His Side

“Probably President Bush would not be in office today had it not been for him,” said Bishop Harry Jackson, a black pastor from the Washington, D.C., suburbs and a fellow rising star in the religious right. A registered Democrat who said that he and Parsley share the same theological and political viewpoint, Jackson runs the High Impact Leadership Coalition, which promotes its “Black Contract With America on Moral Values.” That effort has led Jackson into alliance with the Arlington Group, a coalition of the Christian-right political elite with which Parsley is also affiliated. According to Jackson, Parsley's style of preaching is “very, very user-friendly to African Americans,” which may explain why the white pastor has a congregation that is 40-percent black. Jackson also maintained that Parsley's work with Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, as a “black and white team” campaigning for the gay-marriage ban in churches across Ohio, created the “ricochet effect” of bringing out voters for George W. Bush in 2004.

Jackson was careful to point out that Parsley did not explicitly campaign for Bush, which would have jeopardized his church's tax-exempt status. But that was something Parsley clearly wanted to do in light of his $2,000 contribution to the Bush-Cheney campaign and his outspoken contempt for the Internal Revenue Service rules that prohibit clergy from endorsing candidates. His tag-team campaign for the gay-marriage ban with Blackwell -- who was not only the state co-chair of the Bush-Cheney re-election effort but also supervised the election as secretary of state -- certainly provided support to Bush. Now, through campaign contributions and joint public appearances, Parsley is supporting Blackwell's bid to become the Republican gubernatorial nominee in 2006.

[madfloridian]

19. More about Bishop Jackson"s High Impact Leadership Coalition

From People for the American Way

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=22687

High Impact Leadership Coalition

Bishop Harry Jackson, a fervent opponent of gay rights and an equally fervent supporter of President George W. Bush, founded the High Impact Leadership Coalition to promote his “Black Contract With America on Moral Values,” a six-point platform calling for a prohibition of same-sex marriage, school vouchers, and private Social Security investment accounts, among other things. During the 2004 election, Jackson played a prominent media role in efforts to encourage African-Americans to vote for President George W. Bush.

High Impact Leadership Coalition
PO Box 505
College Park, MD 20741-0505
Website: www.himpactus.com

Much more at the link. Is this considered a Democratic group because he is a registered Democrat?

[Leopolds Ghost]

25. Unfortunately much of the Black Church has been co-opted by the Right

This was true even in Martin Luther King's day, he almost left the
Southern Baptist Church because of it. That's why the black church
in DC is no longer as involved in the communities it used to serve --
most of its members are older suburban evangelicals who believe that
social justice is communistic. The big exceptions are the churches
that have a history of civil rights activism, and they spend most
of their time talking about gay-bashing and self-help.

[mod mom]

20. Marley Greiner has provided excellent coverage (freepress.org ):

An evening with Rod Parsley
by Marley Greiner
July 20, 2005

The spring of 2005 has been a banner for Columbus' tele-revivialist cum spiritual adviser to the Republican Party, Rod Parsley, Pastor of World Harvest Church in Canal Winchester; interviews in James Dobson's daily online news commentary Citizen Link and Chuck Colson's Breakpoint; features in Charisma Magazine, the Scaife owned Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, the Columbus Dispatch, the Other Paper and the Newark Advocate; and citations in the New York Times and Dallas Morning News.

Also, there was the op-ed in the Charlotte Observer and the photo-ops with Sen. Sam Brownback. He was hobnobbing with old friends Ken Blackwell, Cincinnati moral crusader Phil Burress, former Ohio Congressman, Bob McEwen, former Alabama Supreme Justice Roy Moore, Texas Governor Rick Perry, and Family Research Council President Tony Perkins. Let's not forget his Center for Moral Clarity, the Ohio Restoration Project, and his Patriot Pastors. And, of course, the launch of his 12-city Silent No More book tour at World Harvest on April 16 which brought to town rightwing writer and TV starlet Ann Coulter, Christian insult comedian Brad Stine, and another old friend, former UN Ambassador, presidential candidate, and recreational mosher Allen Keyes.

Pretty good for a good ol' boy from Martin County, Kentucky who likes to say his home was so far out in the sticks that they had to pipe in sunshine and use hoot owls for roosters.

The Free Press attended the book launch and rally at World Harvest. Rally security at World Harvest was tight. Bags were inspected, the press suspect. A man from a local radio station told me that security followed him into the restroom asking what he intended to do there. Apparently they were concerned that he'd pull a custard pie out of his pants and hurl it at the recently pied Ann Coulter. If all of this sounds a bit paranoid, it was. And, it definitely wasn't fun. I've attended numerous Biblical American events in arenas, convention centers, churches, and in the streets with big names including Jerry Falwell, Gary Bauer, Tom Delay, Don Wildmon, D. James Kennedy, Pat Robertson, Gerald Ford, Flip Benham, Ron Luce, Josh McDowell, Ken Starr, Phyllis Schlafly, and Roberta Combs, but I have never experienced the spookiness that gripped World Harvest that evening. The guy behind me asked several times, "Have you ever seen a church like this?"

-snip
http://www.freepress.org/journal.php?strFunc=display&st...


Marley's blog:

http://theoconia.blogspot.com/2006/07/my-evening-with-r...

[ClintonTyree]

41. "Have you ever seen a church like this?"

This is not a church. It's a cult. A cult that this country would be better off without. Their beliefs are so far removed from the teachings of christ it would be laughable if they weren't so dangerous. It's insanity, and it's becoming State sponsored insanity which should worry each and every responsible American not caught up in the clutches of it's slimy, hate-filled embodiment.

[Occulus]

22. I have a great deal of righteous anger toward these people

It would not be so if they believed as they did without harming anyone else or trying to interfere with anyone else's life, but these people instead seek to "convert" everyone, and if given power will most likely resort to the use of force or coercion, both of which are demonstrably necessary for them to use if they wish to achieve their goal.

Make no mistake about it: there is a substantial subset of people who hold to these twisted, immoral beliefs who would gladly put all of us to death. If they ever get into a position in which they have control of the reins of our government, we will most surely face a long and very bloody revolution if we ever wish to again be free. I, for my part, will gladly do all I can to eliminate them if those conditions ever come to pass; they will have never before seen what righteous anger for a just cause can accomplish: in their folly, they mistakenly believe their own cause is just; thus, the very justifiable- admirable, even- bloodlust against them will take them completely by surprise.

They know not the seeds they sow. I almost hope for them to try. We need to rid ourselves of these people, and if conditions require that they die, then that is what I- and, I hope, most of us- will seek to bring about.

I'm not saying I'm going to harm someone. I'm saying I will, if.

(If these people gain power, bloody revolution is the only thing that will ever remove them. These people are extremely dangerous to the concept of democracy; they don't believe in it, and will if given the chance eliminate it. Ultimately, they are traitors declaring their beliefs right under our noses, and probably ought to be put in prison now, while they're saying they will end the Constitutional government we now have.)

[patrice]

27. "...trying to interfere with anyone else's life..." it is in this characteristic,

the desire to destroy Freedom, that they are the anti-Christ.

[frog92969]

28. 100% With You!

And my eye squarely on the ball.

[hootinholler]

23. No wonder Ohio is home to Touchdown Jesus!

[michiganbuckeye1970]

26. I know one of his followers

My brother in law has a picture of RP in his home. Whenever my wife and I are forced to visit, we both always look at the picture and laugh, of course without telling anyone what we are laughing at. I agree with an earlier post that anyone who knows the RP family thinks they are a bunch of idiots. I lived in Columbus for a while. His wife was not known for being the friendliest person in the world...Of course, he is dangerous to a degree, but these individuals are very self destructive, because a life lived by a lie cannot be sustained.

[JerseygirlCT]

29. If it makes you feel any better

They are well-funded, but I think they're losing some of their base. The shift toward conservative politics has taken them away from Christian views (helping the poor, stewarding the environment, etc.) and from what I've been reading, their younger members especially, are moving on to other churches and movements that are less involved with the GOP. It's truly an unholy alliance.

Don't know how quickly that worm will turn, but I do think in the bigger picture these people will soon fade back into the fringe cults they've really always been in the larger picture of Christianity.

[madfloridian]

30. I posted a very upsetting video about Dominionism

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

There is no way they will just quit. We need to be on guard. Note the comments of Justice Scalia at the post. Terribly scary.

[and-justice-for-all]

31. So what are we to do about this facist theocrat?

There has to be something to counter this Nazi-like aganda parsley is selling?

[defendandprotect]

38. "There's no fanatic like a religous fanatic" --- that why the Repugs use them-- !!!

Resurrecting religous fanatics and putting them to their service is part of what the GOP is all about --

First, it is required to underpin patriarchy and "Manifest Destiny" etal --
the license to abuse nature ---
plus it's also part of the myths of inferiority of females and homosexuals --

As I've said elsewhere, I'm becoming convinced that WE/US is Israel ---
and probably that's been true to one degree or another since Nixon began arming right-wing
religously fanatical Israel ---

Also, hope everyone is familiar with what Brz has told us about Afghanistan . . . !!!
That WE/US went into Afghanistan 6 months BEFORE the Russians came in --
"In order to bait the Russians in" ... "In hopes of giving them a Vietnam-type experience."

And, I'd say that all worked out fine for right-wing plotters in our government --- !!!



What to do about them --- well, knowing what's going on is the first step ---
Standing against patriarchy and organized patriarchal religion is the next step ---
Supporting organizations which protect Separation of Church & State is another step ---
ACLU, for instance --- and others.

Ann Richards daughter used to run the Texas Freedom Network -- very active organization.
I think she moved on to Planned Parenthood but the org still exists.

And -- spread the word ---

[mwb970]

43. They are also extraordinarily easy to fool.

I mean, look at the things they already believe! Once you believe that the earth is 6000 years old, it's just a short hop to "bush is a great president."

[defendandprotect]

48. Rigt . . . ! Maybe we should just work on that date --- would it wake up any of them?

Oh -- forgot --- they don't believe in "science" --- !!!

Egads!!!

[ladym55]

33. The Patriot Pastors were supposed to push Kenny to the governorship in 2006

That didn't happen. Kenny got mashed into the ground. He wasn't just defeated. He was dumped in a landslide--all of his god friends and corrupt election cronies couldn't make him governor of Ohio.

There is also now a nondenominational group of progressive leaders of faith in Ohio who have organized to take a stand against Parsley and his cronies.

The Patriot Pastors are a real concern, but they aren't quite as invincible as they like to present themselves.

[madfloridian]

44. That group of progressive pastors in Ohio sounds great...

I had heard about them at another site. That is how we have to fight back.

[ladym55]

49. I wish I could remember the name of the group

My pastor has joined them. When I get more information, I'll post it for everyone to read. It's a good group and it's fighting back.

[frogbison]

51. We Believe Ohio

is the name of the group.

www.webelieveohio.org

[defendandprotect]

37. Prof. Mark Crispin Miller . . . in his book . . . and I don't want to misquote

or overinflate what he said . . .
but the suggestion seemed clear that he felt that American religous fanatics would have
been a good source for the GOP for volunteers to monkey around with election results.

[Parche]

45. We Need To Snip Some Parsley

I despise him as much as Kenneth Copeland........

[KamaAina]

46. "Patriot Pastors"? Can you say "tax-exempt status"?

Mr. KamaAina can!

"The Party urges the IRS be abolished,"

Maybe that's why.

[madfloridian]

50. Parsley, Huckabee, Mohler

Two are Southern Baptists, not sure of Parsley's denomination.

I wonder how many common views they share.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...