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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:14 PM
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THE MAN THAT MURDERED OSAMA BIN LADEN **DANIEL PEARL'S MURDERER** Omar Sheikh
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:00 PM by seemslikeadream
heard on Malloy

I think it's in this interview


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:15 PM
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1. ???
Who?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:16 PM
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2. Chuck Norris, with the fist in his chin?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:17 PM
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5. Benazir said it to David Frost
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:27 PM
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14. SHE DID??? O-M-G! No wonder they killed her!
:grr:
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Fancy Pants Elitist Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:28 AM
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63. Exactly My Reaction!
Noodley!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:55 AM
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119. There have been stories like that for years. There's no evidence to back them up.
Bhutto, being human, isn't guaranteed as the fount of all truth.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:34 AM
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118. is he the bloke in the stacked heels ?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:16 PM
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3. I'm listening now to the interview
but I heard this on Malloy and don't know the name
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:16 PM
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4. Yes, listening to it now
Bhutto said it in an interview with David Frost on Nov 6... she felt she was being threatened by "the man that murdered Osama Bin Laden"
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:19 PM
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6. Wow
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:20 PM
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7. astonishing. I'm listening & wonder what this means...
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:22 PM
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8. Please kick & recommend - this is so important!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:24 PM
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10. Malloy is saying some will say she just miss spoke but
He does not believe this
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:37 PM
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50. Did he say why he didn't believe it?
Or did he just cut it off there and left it open ended.

So open ended that you could drive a truck through the argument.






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Fancy Pants Elitist Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:10 AM
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60. no...
Benazir did not misspeak. She is a polished and accomplished leader and would not misspeak on something that critical. When one looks into the background of Omar Saeed Sheik, it's more than obvious that this guy makes Osama look like a pre-schooler in the world of terrorism and world crime. It's very possible that He got rid of Osama to take over.

If Benazir, who knows this region better than any American journalist or CIA agent out there, says that Osama was murdered by Omar Saeed Sheik, I believe her. Especially considering *him*.

I don't agree that Mike didn't believe her either, I just think he was shocked by what she said and was still digesting it.

BTW, my first post here, Hi ya'll!

Noodley!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:52 AM
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64. Hi, Fancy Pants Elitist!
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:38 AM
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68. Hello Fancy Pants
:hi:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #60
104. Welcome to DU, Fancy Pants Elitist !
:hi:
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:08 PM
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113. welcome
I agree that she is accomplished as a speaker and knows what she is talking about. It has been rumored for years that Osama bin laden is dead (even before the 2004 elections here) and it serves * well to keep that information from us, and surprise, surprise! the mainstream media goes along with it. It has been my impression that those in Europe heard this news many years ago and have no reason to doubt its veracity. They probably think we are idiots for believing OBL is still alive and kicking!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:48 PM
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102. Hartmann says she was a woman who chose her words very carefully.


I agree. This was not a slip of the tongue, she stated facts and perhaps didn't realize that she was exposing a massive cover-up of the ChimpCo Administration.

If she knows, somebody else close to her knows also. I hope to all that's good that the information comes out.



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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:27 PM
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13. In an Email to Blitzer she said that in the event of her
assassination it would be Musharaff. If this is true then she would have meant that he
was responsible for killing Usama, as well. If Usama was dead would that not have been
World Wide News?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:55 PM
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33. Bhutto could read. News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago; December 26, 2001
Reported Funeral: Translation on right.

2001 was spent in American hospitals,
Till his death in mid-December
# Israeli Intelligence: he died and all new videos are faked
# He had Kidney operation July 4 in Dubai, reports "La Figaro"
# CNN reported 2/1/02 bin Laden aged enormously
# Pakistan President Musharraf says he died of Kidney Failure
# Doctor says he is extremely ill requiring dialysis

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

News of Bin Laden's Death
and Funeral 10 days ago

Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.

http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral /


It was fairly world-wide news; just not here, though I swear I saw it reported on CNN Headline News then. A blip on the screen here. If they run it once they can claim it was reported.


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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:56 PM
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36. Osama is on ice...being saved for the 2008 election. They will present him as "just being killed in
a raid" and the sheeple will buy it...lock, stock and barrel. :( They may just show pictures like they did with Saddam's son's. I don't know how long dead people can be kept looking "newly dead", so they may have taken pics to show at just the right time...October 30, 2008.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:42 AM
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70. It won't work. The American people are sick to death of bush & the fear mongering.
Even if it gives him a bump in the polls with the media playing it 24/7, there will be too many people thinking 'ho hum'. It will be about 7 years too late.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:29 PM
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110. Bingo
but hopefully this video will get lots of airplay. Remember there are lovely photos of her with Thatcher, Poppy Bush and all the right wing zealots.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:13 PM
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95. ... and you believe an 'email to CNN' why, exactly ?
:shrug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:22 PM
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9. oh man this is hot news
and you will not hear our fair and balanced media ever say anything about this. hmmmmm.....let's see how fast they make this disappear. I guess we all have to listen to this.
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:24 PM
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11. Interview was on AlJazeera.
Frost didn't react. Maybe it's well known that Bin Laden has been long dead?!?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:30 PM
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16. well with our sanitized news it could very well be true.
that Osama is long gone, and his name is being used for us to sacrifice our rights.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:08 PM
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89. That's what I thought too. Bhutto's mention of his death was so matter
of fact, and Frost, a great interviewer, would certainly have questioned it.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:26 PM
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12. A bombshell.
Wow. Good find, Mike and Kathy!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:27 PM
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15. Thanks for the find.
O8)
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:37 PM
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20. Thank Kathy Bay ( Mrs. Mike Malloy).
As producer of the Mike Malloy Show Kathy does the research and assembles sound bites in the news of the day for Mike to comment on. Today's horrendous news led her to this interview. What a great scoop!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:32 PM
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17. Charade's over, Chimpy!
And guess who just jumped to the top of the suspect list in THIS murder.

Now Ms. Pelosi..... can we CHIMPEACH these pieces of shit already??
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:36 PM
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18. THE GUY THAT MURDERED DANIEL PEARL!!!!!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 08:37 PM by seemslikeadream
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. What if Pearl uncovered the fact that BinLaden was dead.....
....and "they" sent the same guy who killed Osama to kill Pearl, and cover his own tracks?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:05 PM
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38. Hmmm...that is very possible.
Investigative journalist finds out the truth and they "plug the hole". Very possible.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:22 AM
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117. I think you are on to something
Good Post. Never thought about it from that angle before......
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:06 PM
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94. I always wondered the real reason they murdered Daniel Pearl.
This sounds plausible, seemslikeadream. Pearl possibly knowing that Bin Laden was already dead, killed by same guy that later murdered him. Wow, if true.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:37 PM
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19.  Sooooooo if Bin Laden has been dead? Who has been making the
video tapes?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:41 PM
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22. Oh, hell...........
the CIA has the expertise for that....it's not rocket science.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:43 PM
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24. CIA Black Ops production company? My husband just asked me the same thing...he told me I am weird
for thinking our CIA made the videos. :( He just doesn't "get it" yet. He still thinks we live in an innocent world. :eyes:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:13 PM
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108. perhaps the same people who took over al Jazeera?

(looks like that story got scrubbed) K&R, btw.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:44 PM
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26. The CIA? Halliburton?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. Duh
OBL died in December 2001. Who would have benefited from the "OBL" tapes?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:52 PM
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30. I think I know
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #19
78. In the last video, Osama's hair and beard were black. Previous vids showed his hair to be
grizzled...

I may be mistaken, but isn't it against the Muslim religion to dye one's hair and beard?

Would Osama, a fanatical religionist break the tenents of his faith and flaunt it to the world?

With today's technology, any video can be faked quite convincingly.

Remember that scene in FORREST GUMP where they had President Kennedy turn toward the camera and say, "I believe he said he had to go pee!"
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:35 PM
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83. It is not against the Muslim religion to dye one's hair and beard.
In fact, some of the Hadiths recommend dyeing one's beard and suggest using henna and katam to do so. At one point in time, it was done to distinguish themselves from the Christians and Jews who (due to their religion) refrained from dyeing their hair and beards.

So dyeing his beard would most certainly not be breaking the tenets of his faith. In fact, it has been quite common amongst the Mujahadin to do this prior to going into battle.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #83
86. Okay. When the video with the black beard came out, someone on DU posted
that is was forbidden to dye the beard.

I assumed that person knew what he/she was talking about.

I should have checked it out rather than just filing it away in my memory.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #78
90. What I thought about that is that the beard was fake as he is living incognito someplace
and isn't wearing a beard in order to change his appearance or not call attention to himself.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:43 PM
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23. If this was a David Frost interview, wouldn't somebody have heard it by now? It wasn't a hidden
tape or secret interview, was it? I don't care how well-scrubbed our news is, it would have made the news in Europe. Just trying to make some sense out of what everyone says they're hearing.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. It's on Al Jazeera English TV. Go watch the video ....the link is in the OP. n/t
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:43 PM
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25. In November, 2007 interview, Bhutto names Osama bin Laden's killer.
Benazir Bhutto states in an early November, 2007 interview with Sir David Frost, that Omar Sheikh murdered Osama bin Laden.


Just let this sink in for a moment.



This is from a comment at Crooks and Liars, by poster Vierotchka:


On November 2, 2007, during an interview by Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto stated that Osama bin Laden had been assassinated by Omar Sheikh. Now, Omar Sheikh was sentenced to death in July 2002 for the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl. If this is indeed true, it puts a lie to all the bin Laden videos with which we were regaled over the past five years - all of which have been declared to be fakes by a great many people. Imagine that Benazir Bhutto had not been assassinated and would have been elected Prime Minister, if she had accurate knowledge about Omar Sheikh and had access to incontrovertible evidence, this would have put the Bush administration in a very embarrassing corner - so one could conceivably add this to the motives for Benazir Bhuttos assassination.

See Benazir make this claim about six minutes and ten or so seconds into the video, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ




And, just like clockwork:


December 27, 2007

Group: Bin Laden to release Iraq message


NEW YORK - Terror leader Osama bin Laden will release a new Internet message that focuses on Iraq, a terrorism monitoring group said Thursday.

The SITE intelligence group said it has learned that the al-Qaida leader will discuss Iraq and the insurgent group the Islamic State of Iraq, which is a front organization for al-Qaida.

SITE, which provides counter-terrorism information to government and private groups, said the announcement of the impending message was posted to jihadist forums earlier in the day.

The posting said the message titled `The way to contain conspiracies" would last 56 minutes. It did not say when it would be released, but advertisements for past al-Qaida statements usually give a timeframe of 72 hours.

SITE said the posting was signed by As-Sahab, the production branch that releases al-Qaida messages. It didn't say if it would be a video or just an audio message.

Al-Qaida has dramatically increased the pace of its messages this year.




How many more lies from George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney will we tolerate??


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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:51 PM
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29. She did not name the Assassin in the Interview but she
definitely said that Usama bin Laden had been murdered. Frost didn't react at all to that statement.
Wow!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Actually, she did say his name
She said "Omar Sheikh" in the interview that Malloy played, though she didn't mention the Daniel Pearl connection.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:55 PM
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35. Yea she said his name
:hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #25
42. we are being played by this thuggish regime we have.
fear is their way of taking more rights away from the american people. so they keep on throwing out these tapes, Osama decoys to just play us, look at how many Saddam look alikes they had in Iraq. all this stuff makes me just shake my head and ask why are these thugs still sitting in the WH.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:15 PM
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54. The same SITE outfit that is linked to HR 1955
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 10:18 PM by noise
When do we get a committee to investigate the so called 'terrorist experts' ties to al Qaeda?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:20 PM
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55. Again, the question, who benefited from today's events?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 10:42 PM by seafan
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh


Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh ( Urdu: احمد عمر سعید شیخ ) (sometimes known as Omar Sheikh, Sheikh Omar <1> , Sheik Syed <2> , or by the alias "Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad" <1> ) (b. December 23 1973) is a British-born militant of Pakistani descent with alleged links to various Islamic-based organisations, including Jaish-e-Mohammed, Al-Qaeda, and Harkat-ul-Mujahideen.

He was arrested and served time in prison for the 1994 abduction of several British nationals in India, an act which he acknowledges, he was released from captivity in 1999 and provided safe passage into Pakistan, apparently with the support of Pakistan and the Taleban (the hijackers were Pakistanis) in an Indian Airlines plane hijacking. He is most well-known for his alleged role in the 2002 kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Sheikh Omar Saeed was arrested by Pakistani police on February 12, 2002, in Lahore, in conjunction with the Pearl kidnapping, <3> and was sentenced to death on July 15, 2002 <1> for killing Pearl. His judicial appeal has not yet been heard. The delay has been alleged to be due to his reported links with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence. <4>

Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book In the Line of Fire stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state "At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent". <5>

His complicity in the execution and the reasons behind it are in dispute. <1> At his initial court appearance, he stated, "I don't want to defend this case. I did this...Right or wrong, I had my reasons. I think that our country shouldn't be catering to America's needs." <1> , but he subsequently appealed his conviction and is awaiting further progress while in prison. Sheikh's lawyer has stated he will base his client's appeal on the recent admission of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that he is the killer of Daniel Pearl. <1> <6>

.....



Would that be the same Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who was waterboarded into *confessing* that HE killed Daniel Pearl? That would certainly take the scrutiny off of Omar Sheikh.




5. Alleged connection to 9/11

On October 6, 2001, a senior-level U.S. government official told CNN that U.S. investigators had discovered Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (Sheik Syed), using the alias "Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad" had sent about $100,000 from the United Arab Emirates to Mohammed Atta. "Investigators said Atta then distributed the funds to conspirators in Florida in the weeks before the deadliest acts of terrorism on U.S. soil that destroyed the World Trade Center, heavily damaged the Pentagon and left thousands dead. In addition, sources have said Atta sent thousands of dollars -- believed to be excess funds from the operation -- back to Saeed in the United Arab Emirates in the days before September 11. CNN later confirmed this. <1>

The 9/11 Commission's Final Report states that the source of the funds "remains unknown."




And it seems that the 9/11 Commission wanted it to stay that way. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.



More than a month after the money transfer was discovered, the head of ISI, General Mehmood Ahmed resigned from his position. It was reported that the FBI was investigating the possibility that Gen. Ahmed ordered Saeed Sheikh to send the $100,000 to Atta <2>; there were also claims that Indian intelligence had already produced proof for the Pakistani administration that this was so.The Wall Street Journal was one of the only Western news organizations to follow up on the story, citing the Times of India: "US authorities sought removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mehmood."<3> Another Indian newspaper, the Daily Excelsior, quoting FBI sources, reported that the "FBIs examination of the hard disk of the cellphone company Omar Sheikh had subscribed to led to the discovery of the "link" between him and the deposed chief of the Pakistani ISI, Gen. Mehmood Ahmed. And as the FBI investigators delved deep, sensational reports surfaced with regard to the transfer of 100,000 dollars to Mohammed Atta, one of the kamikaze pilots who flew his Boeing into the World Trade Centre. Gen. Mehmood Ahmed, the FBI investigators found, fully knew about the transfer of money to Atta."<4>

The Pittsburgh Tribune notes that "There are many in Musharraf's government who believe that Saeed Sheikh's power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA."<5>

Sheikh rose to prominence with the 2002 killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who at the time was in Pakistan investigating connections between the ISI and Islamic militant groups. In Pakistan, Sheikh was sentenced to death for killing Pearl, however his complicity in the execution and the reasons behind it are in dispute.

In an opinion piece published by the Wall Street Journal, Tunku Varadarajan has claimed that It is a fact that Gen. Mehmood Ahmed, then head of the ISI, wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta before 9/11 through an intermediary."




So Daniel Pearl was investigating the transfer of $100,000 from Omar Sheikh to Mohammed Atta in the weeks before 9/11, on the orders of the head of Pakistan's ISI, General Mehmood Ahmed...

The 9/11 Commission looks the other way when this information surfaces via Pearl's investigation.

Omar Sheikh orchestrates Daniel Pearl's death.

But we are conveniently told that Khalid Sheilk Mohammed is *the real killer* of Daniel Pearl,because he *confessed during waterboarding*.


Bhutto very matter-of-factly states in November, 2007 that Omar Sheikh assassinated Osama bin Laden.


Benazir Bhutto is assassinated on December 27, 2007.




Bhutto killed by 'Al-Qaeda tactics': White House, December 28, 2007, Times of India

CRAWFORD, TEXAS: The White House on Thursday said suicide bombing was a familiar tactic for Al-Qaida but declined to cast blame for the assassination of Pakistan's former prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

"Whoever perpetrated this attack is an enemy of democracy and has used a tactic which Al-Qaida is very familiar with, and that is suicide bombing and the taking of innocent lives to try to disrupt a democratic process," spokesman Scott Stanzel said.

.....





The constant, recurring charade of Osama bin Laden tapes keeps the BFEE in power, miraculously.










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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:29 PM
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56. Thank you so very much seafan
:hug:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:47 PM
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58. Y're welcome, seemslikeadream. The Great Unraveling just accelerated. n/t
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:09 PM
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77. Extremely interesting and worrisome.
Thanks for the synopsis.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:42 PM
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100. This needs to be in it's own thread.
Wow
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:49 PM
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103. rec'd!
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:05 PM
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112. BFEE doublespeak, again ...
" ... Whoever perpetrated this attack is an enemy of democracy and has used a tactic which Al-Qaida is very familiar with ..."

"When you point your finger ... you got 3 more ... pointing back at you ..." ~ Dire Straits

Its almost painful to hear the Bushista Cabal speak the truth about themselves with straight faces and have the media and the American Sheeple automatically and gullibly assume they're referring to someone else.


:spank:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:38 PM
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84. Interesting that SITE scoops the CIA each time, ain't it? n/t
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:32 PM
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91. Wow. I'm stunned. I don't know how I missed this before.
There have been so many parallels I've noticed between the assassination of JFK and the conspiracy of 9/11, I thought I had seen them all. But if this is true, it would make Osama bin Laden the equivalent of Lee Harvey Oswald: the patsy.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:05 PM
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120. I noticed the similarities on 9/11/01....
....and have said so every day since. :think:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jus_the_facts...
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:53 PM
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31. Holy shit!
:wow:
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:27 PM
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80. Homey don't play that.
That's a pic of Homey the clown isn't it? Too funny. Sorry to be off topic but I haven't thought of Homey for years. Thanks
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:55 PM
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34. Is it me or is there a strong hint of 30 day old herring in the air?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:57 PM
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37. You mustn't have listened to the interview
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 08:58 PM by seemslikeadream
or you would have heard her mention Omar Sheikh
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:06 PM
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40. Yes I did and I find it hard to buy that Bhutto ALONE has publicly announced this,,,too much ...
to be gained by others with equal access to such information for it not to have become spoken MANY times in many places. Perhaps it is true, good! But I remain highly, highly skeptical.
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Fancy Pants Elitist Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:27 AM
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62. Why?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:02 PM
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75. how do you know that this is not common knowledge in other parts of world?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:06 PM
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39. K
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:12 PM
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41. Please get a grip, man. This is embarrassing.
This came up on DU back on Nov 3, 2007.

She misspoke.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


The only exercise people get around here is jumping to conclusions.


Sheesh!






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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:16 PM
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43. What makes you think she misspoke?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:16 PM
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44. You get a grip
your link did not address this go back and read it
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:23 PM
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47. Actually, Commen Sense Addressed it Since it Was Broadcast Almost 2 month ago.
But sometimes, it seems, there isn't much common sense around here these days.





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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:25 PM
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48. Go back and listen to the interview again SHE IS NOT MIS SPEAKING
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:26 PM by seemslikeadream
She slowly deliberately says Osama bin Laden
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:33 PM
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49. She says his name. Yep. Does it mean that it's true? Where is the evidence?
Is there evidence that he is dead?

Don't you think that every press agency on a global basis would be all over this in the last 60 days?

He's public enemy #1 for God's sakes.





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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:37 PM
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51. Oh merci
and new Osama bin Laden tapes coming out

right on schedule
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:52 AM
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65. just like clockwork they release a bin laden tape
very interesting Omar Sheikh could have been a double agent.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:58 PM
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116. kick. n/t
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CubicleGuy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:39 PM
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92. Is there evidence that he is dead?
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 01:40 PM by CubicleGuy
You mean outside of the fact that our own government shut down its search for Osama quite some time ago?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.ht...
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:53 PM
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105. Of course there is evidence. Just not where we Americans can find it.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. Let's see......
Osama Bin Laden

Daniel Pearl

Oh yeah, it would be easy to get those two names confused. Sure, she misspoke...... :eyes:

And I've got a beachfront condo in Tucson for sale.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:00 PM
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93. Thanks----the board's going bonkers today with conspiracy theories
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:01 PM by goodgd_yall
I remember when this came up and was laid to rest.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:22 PM
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46. K & R
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:47 PM
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52. And yet....
Wolf Blitzer played a number of times today a video of an interview he had with Bhutto, I think he said it took place in September or October, and it showed Bhutto saying Bin Laden is probably in the mountain region of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Why would she say two different things around the same time? The odd thing I noticed about her interview with Blitzer is, when she was speaking of Bin Laden being alive in the mountains somewhere, she was blinking her eyes profusely. I looked at my husband and said, "she's lying right now." Very very odd to say the least. It looks like her interview with Blitzer & Frost were around the same time.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:04 PM
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76. because American media is extremely censored
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:34 PM
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82. That is curious. Curiouser and Curiouser I must say. n/t
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:59 PM
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53. K&R
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:30 PM
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57. K&R
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:54 AM
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59. Retired Brigadier supervising Benazir's security was Osama's handler, says expert
Retired Brigadier supervising Benazir's security was Osama's handler, says expert


http://in.news.yahoo.com/071019/139/6m5uk.html

Chennai, Oct.19 (ANI): The retired brigadier who was given the responsibility of securing former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's car journey through Karachi on Thursday, used to be the handling officer of Osama bin Laden and Taliban chief Mulla Omar when he was attached with the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

Disclosing this information in an article for the rediff website, former Additional Secretary in the Cabinet Secretariat, B.Raman says that Brigadier (retired) Ejaz Shah, whose resignation is being demanded by Benazir Bhutto, is a close confidante of President General Pervez Musharraf.

Raman says that after Musharraf seized power on October 12, 1999, he had Shah posted as the Home Secretary of Punjab. He also says that Omar Sheikh, who orchestrated the kidnapping and murder of American journalist Daniel Pearl, surrendered before Shah because Omar Sheikh knew him before and was confident that Ejaz Shah would see that he was not tortured.

So close are the links between Shah and Musharraf that when several allegations were filed against him, Musharraf sought to send him as Ambassador to Australia or Indonesia. Both countries reportedly refused to accept him. Musharraf then made him the Director General of the Intelligence Bureau and he saw to it that the death sentence against Omar Sheikh for his role in the Pearl case was not executed.

The courts have been repeatedly postponing hearings on the appeal filed by Omar Sheikh against the death sentence.

Shah, according to Raman, also played an active role in the campaign to discredit Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Caudhury after he started calling for the files of a large number of missing persons who were taken into custody by the police and the intelligence agencies.

Shah is also a close personal friend of many Punjabi leaders of the Pakistan Muslim League (Qaid), which is opposed to Benazir's return.

According to these sources, the suicide bomber or bombers managed to penetrate the security cordon of the police and IB officers without being frisked, but could not penetrate the inner cordon of security guards of the PPP. When stopped on Thursday night, they blew themselves up at a distance from her vehicle. At the time of the explosion, Bhutto had gone inside the vehicle to rest for a while. This seems to have contributed to her miraculous escape. Had she been standing on top she might have been injured, if not killed? (ANI)
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Fancy Pants Elitist Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:19 AM
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61. whoa
This is very interesting. I thought I heard tonight that Omar escaped recently, but if he is still in prison and a good buddy of Shah's then it's clearly possible that between the two of them they could have accomplished this assassination. It's not the first time assassinations or acts of terror have been directed from a prison, after all.

This stinks to freaking heaven. Great catch!

Noodley!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:21 AM
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66. Apparently the FBI has thought UBL dead since 2002:
FBI counterterrorism chief Dale Watson said Wednesday he believes Osama bin Laden is dead the first time a senior U.S. law enforcement official has publicly given an opinion on the al Qaeda leader's status.

Watson, speaking at a conference of law enforcement officials at a downtown hotel, quickly emphasized that he had no evidence that bin Laden was dead, but his comments suggest that the FBI has no intelligence that proves bin Laden is alive.

"Is (bin Laden) alive or is he dead?" Watson said. "I am not really sure of the answer ... I personally think he is probably not with us anymore but I have no evidence to support that."

July 17, 2002

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/17/attack/main51...
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:37 PM
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98. A leak from a source in the Saudi intelligence service---he died Sept. 4, 2006
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:38 PM by goodgd_yall
Much of the Arab community believes he is dead based on this leak. France vowed to investigate the authenticity of this information, but it apparently hasn't been verified or, perhaps verified, but information withheld for who-knows-what reasons. He died of typhoid in a remote area of Afghanistan.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:28 AM
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67. I noticed she did not name Bin Laden as someone
who tried to assassinate her but mentioned the son of Bil Laden as head of one group. Did anyone else catch that?
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:39 AM
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69. kick. nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:44 AM
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71. * k&r! n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:52 AM
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72. "I could be attacked by the son of Bin Laden"
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 11:52 AM by LSK
Now why would she say that? Because hes dead.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:00 PM
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74. Also, how come Frost gave no reaction to her statement??
He just seemed to accept it as fact or he missed it.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:38 PM
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99. I thought it was odd, too, the mention of the son as a "player" now - some
thing I'd never heard before regarding his sons.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:58 AM
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73. WHY?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:16 PM
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79.  "usually reliable source" who said Saudi secret services were convinced that bin Laden had died.
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 12:18 PM by seemslikeadream
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:30 PM
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81. kick
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:58 PM
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85. Too Many Shots
:hi: seemslikeadream

Benazir Bhutto calling on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to resign.

http://www.slate.com/id/2177954

Waziristan has become a base for the movements of the extremists.
Actually, who are these extremists? How are they explained? What are
the agreements and disagreements between the extremists and Al-Qa'idah
and the Taleban? A more important issue are the relations between the
extremist groups and the United States of America.
When the White House attacked Afghanistan in 2001 and occupied this
country, it dispersed the Taleban and Al-Qa'idah in the Indian subcontinent
and Central Asia. In the second phase, it maintained direct contacts with
the senior leaders of this group. Therefore, America has been using Al-Qa'idah
as a tool since the symbolic and self-made event on 11 September 2001.


http://www.juancole.com/2007/12/usg-open-source-center-...


http://politicalpolicy.blogspot.com/2007/11/two-stories...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:06 PM
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87. Who are they?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:25 PM
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109. Ask BLACK Total Intelligence Solutions
BLITZER: But there is a fear that if you lose President Musharraf, who might come in....

....
BLACK: That's, in essence, the problem. Would be worse by any replacement.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/01/sitroom....

:hug:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #85
111. After the US attacked Afghanistan...

it fostered drug lords who allowed the heroin/poppy crop to prosper incredibly. Now recent reports indicate the resurgence of the Taliban is benefitting from the heroin money. Hmmmm.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:07 PM
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88. Shawn David Morton has been saying for three years Bin Laden was dead we killed him supposely.....
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 01:08 PM by bigdarryl
in the desert of Afghanistan by an unman drown.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:15 PM
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96. what is an 'unman drown' ?
:shrug:
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:12 PM
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107. UNMAN PLANE!!!!!
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:06 PM
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114. an unmanned drone -nt-
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:16 PM
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97. This just posted in the video forum
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:18 PM by George Oilwellian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

DU's Malmo Blue put together Mike's report last night and actual footage of Bhutto's statement. Well done Malmo! :applause: Do NOT forget to go to the YouTube page and give it 5 stars. This can make the front page of YouTube if we all do our part.

On Edit: We should also send this far and wide, including to the media and demand an answer to this startling news. Who is responsible for the infamously fake Osama bin Laden tapes we've been subjected to over the past few years?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:03 PM
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106. Thank you.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:46 PM
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101. Thom Hartmann discussed it today !!!!

:bounce:

He gave credit to Mike and Kathy Malloy for digging it up.

Excellent.




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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:25 PM
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115. * k&r! n/t
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eroded47095 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:25 PM
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121. Ask bush if Bin Laden Smuggled Saddam's WMD out!
I'm sure he will tell you the truth or something.
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