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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:03 PM
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Two cold hard facts
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 12:10 PM by cali
No dem will challenge Pelosi for the job of Speaker in the coming year.

The vast majority of Congressional reps will be re-elected despite the low approval rating of Congress.

You can rant and rave on DU all you want, but that won't change reality.

And for the record, I think Pelosi is a lousy leader.




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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:05 PM
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1. Where? n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:06 PM
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2. Good morning from the west
and thank you :patriot:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:25 PM
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7. *chuckle*
:thumbsup:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:33 PM
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12. (grin)
Way
over
her
head


:rofl:

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:36 PM
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13. . (nt)
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:39 PM
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14. Lol!
Literally. :toast:
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:12 PM
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3. So now what.
since democracy is officially dead. do we just have a funeral and happily skip to fascism or what do we do.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:24 PM
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6. Some of us think that democracy in this country is gravely ill
but by no means beyond saving
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:27 PM
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9. define gravely ill. since I no longer see any signs of life in the body.
also how are you planning to save it if you cant get rid of the diseased ones that are killing it in both parties.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:31 PM
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11. gravely ill, due largely to 7 years of bush/cheney
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 12:32 PM by cali
And as I don't consider Pelosi a traitor or anything much beyond a weak and ineffective leader, I suspect we see things so differently that there's little point in any further discussion.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:22 AM
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16. THEN YOU'RE WRONG!
Pelosi is behind every single criminal act the Bush administration has done! She's the real cause of it all!

Thank you Cali. I disagree with you somewhat about her ineffectiveness as a leader, but it is nice to see someone say that she she can be ineffective without her being Satan's Handmaiden. The extremism gets to be too much here sometimes. Nothing can ever e simply bad - it always has to be The Absolute Worst Thing Ever.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:21 PM
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4. Considering our choices are democrats or some RW republican
should we show our displeasure and vote for RW republicans?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:23 PM
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5. Who's suggesting that?
Some DUers say the'll vote third party or not vote, but that's hardly the same as voting for pukes
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 09:14 AM
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15. how about either setting up an actual liberal party or actually running liberals
in the primaries against the right wing leaders in the congress and presidential candidates.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:26 PM
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8. All politics is local
If the voters like their elected representative, they will vote to re-elect them. I agree.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:29 PM
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10. A bunch of warm, fuzzy facts...
There are countless investigations going on. Healthcare is on the table. The internet is safe for now. Our wounded vets are no longer lying around in their own urine. The Senate Ethics Committee is back in action. Many 9/11 Commission recommendations are being passed. A bill to increase financial aid for colleges has passed--the single largest increase in college aid since the GI bill. The President's signing statements are being investigated. Legislation to restore habeus corpus has been approved. The Senate Armed Services Committee has passed legislation "that would grant new rights to terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay. The unions have a voice in the government now—as do gays, women, and minorities. The environment has a fighting chance. The House passed the Taxpayer Protection Act, to protect taxpayers against "identity theft, deceptive Web sites and loan sharks." It also makes it "easier for taxpayers to retrieve property lost as a result of a wrongful Internal Revenue Service levy and directs the IRS to notify lower-income people that they qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit." The House approved a bill spending $1.7 billion over five years for cleaner water. There's a new House committee devoted solely to addressing the issue of global warming. And so on.

"President Bush's success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.

"So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html

Don't let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well--especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.

Less than six months into the 110th Congress, Senate Democrats have made significant strides in passing important, common-sense legislation that reflect the priorities of the American people. After nearly a decade of Republican control, Democrats have worked to restore fiscal responsibility in Washington and pass key legislation on Iraq policy, homeland security, troop readiness, veterans' health care, economic competitiveness, ethics reform, the minimum wage, health care, education, energy independence, stem cell research, and Gulf Coast revitalization. Democrats are committed to proving that elections do matter, and we will continue to pursue the international and domestic priorities that matter most to the American people. Together, we will take the country in a new direction.

Under Democratic leadership, the Senate has passed the following measures:

* A fiscally responsible budget: a budget that restores fiscal discipline and will lead to a surplus, while cutting middle-class taxes and funding foreign anddomestic priorities, including education, children's health care, veterans, and our troops;

* 9/11 Commission recommendations: a bill to make America more secure by giving our first responders the tools they need to keep us safe; making it more difficult for potential terrorists to travel into our country; advancing efforts to secure our rail, air, and mass transit systems; and improving intelligence and information sharing between state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies;

* Homeland security funding: legislation that provides $1.05 billion in funding necessary to address dangerous border and transit vulnerabilities left open by the Bush Administration since 9/11;

* Support for our troops: legislation funding the President's requests for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, including $1.2 billion in additional funding for a total of $3 billion to provide our troops in Iraq with mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles;

* Health care for wounded soldiers and veterans: legislation that provides $3 billion in supplemental funds for military health care and $1.8 billion in supplemental funds to the Department of Veterans' Affairs to accommodate the increasing number of new veterans returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan;

* Benchmarks for Iraq: legislation that conditions U.S. economic support for the Iraqi government on its progress toward achieving key political benchmarks;

* National Guard readiness: legislation to provide an additional $1 billion to President Bush's request for National Guard equipment needs to remedy equipment shortfalls that are compromising the quality of force training and limiting the Guard's ability to quickly respond to natural and potential man-made disasters at home;

* Continuing Resolution: legislation providing funding for the nine remaining appropriations bills that were not completed by Republicans in the 109th Congress. In passing this legislation, Democrats stayed within budget limits, eliminated earmarks, and increased funding for national priorities, including veterans' medical care, Pell grants, elementary and secondary education, the National Institutes of Health, state and local law enforcement, and global AIDS prevention and treatment;
* Energy Bill: landmark legislation to increase our energy independence, strengthen the economy, reduce global warming emissions, and protect American consumers.

* American competitiveness: bipartisan legislation to increase the nation's investment in basic and innovative research; strengthen educational opportunities in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics from elementary through graduate school; and develop the infrastructure needed to enhance innovation and competitiveness in the United States;

* Ethics and lobbying reform: a bill to slow the "revolving door" for former Senators and staff, strengthen limits on gifts and travel, expand lobbying disclosure requirements, establish a study commission on ethics and lobbying, prohibit pensions for Members of Congress convicted of certain crimes, and implement reform procedures relating to earmarks and conference reports;

* Minimum wage: legislation to increase the federal minimum wage to $7.25/hour;

* Middle-class tax cuts: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for permanent extensions of the Marriage Penalty tax relief, the $1,000 refundable Child Tax Credit; the 10 percent income tax bracket; the adoption tax credit; the dependent care tax credit; U.S. soldiers' combat pay for the earned income tax credit; and reform of the estate tax to protect small businesses and family farms;

* AMT patch: the 2008 Budget Resolution ensures that the number of taxpayers subject to the alternative minimum tax will not increase in 2007, giving Congress and the Administration time to come up with a permanent solution;

* Head Start: a bill to expand eligibility for the Head Start program;
* Stem cell research: legislation to expand the number of human embryonic stem cells eligible for federally-funded research;

* Children's health coverage: the 2008 Budget Resolution and the 2007 Emergency Supplemental provide needed funds for the Children's Health Insurance Program;

* FDA reauthorization: a bill to greatly improve the Food and Drug Administration's oversight of drug safety;

* Rebuilding the Gulf Coast: legislation providing a total of $6.4 billion for victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, including $1.3 billion to complete levee and drainage repairs, $50 million to reduce violent crime in Gulf Coast states, and $110 million to repair the seafood and fisheries industries, which is vital to the region's economic recovery;

* Army Corps reform: legislation to ensure that the Army Corps of Engineers does its job more effectively and soundly;

* Disaster assistance for small businesses: legislation providing recovery assistance for small businesses impacted by the 2005 hurricanes in an effort to revitalize the Gulf Coast economy;

* U.S. Attorney appointments: legislation ending the indefinite appointment of interim U.S. Attorneys and restoring the role of the Senate in the selection of U.S. Attorneys;

* Tax relief for small businesses: legislation providing a range of deficit-neutral tax incentives designed to help small businesses grow;

* Education and training: the 2008 Budget Resolution provides for the largest increase since 2002 in funding for elementary and secondary programs; and

* Energy and environment programs: legislation increasing funding for basic science research at the Department of Energy and for energy efficiency and renewable energy programs.
http://www.apostille.us/news/democratic_accomplishments_in_the_110th_congress_leading_america_in_a_new_direction.shtml

this 110th Congress has had more roll call votes this year than any other Congress in history, almost doubling the number under the previous Congress overseen by Boehner and House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL):
The House last week held its 943rd roll call vote of the year, breaking the previous record of 942 votes, a mark set in 1978. The vote was on a procedural motion related to a mortgage foreclosure bill. When the House adjourned on Oct. 4 for the long weekend, the chamber had reached 948 roll call votes, putting Democrats on pace to easily eclipse 1,000 votes on the House floor in 2007.
Last year, the Republican controlled House held 543 votes, and for historical comparison, the last time there was a shift in power in Congress, Republicans held 885 roll call votes in 1995. The Senate, which has held 363 votes this year, isn't on pace to break any records, but has already surpassed the 2006 Senate mark of 279 votes.
Much of the lack of progress can be traced back to obstructionism by conservatives.
Approximately "1 in 6 roll-call votes in the Senate this year have been cloture votes," noted a JulyMcClatchy report. "If this pace of blocking legislation continues, this 110th Congress will be on track to roughly triple the previous record number of cloture votes."
It's interesting that Boehner is criticizing the 110th Congress as doing nothing. After all, the House, under his leadership, met for just 101 days during the second session of the 109th Congress, setting the record "for the fewest days in session in one year since the end ofWorld War II."
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