Why Hillary Clinton CANNOT/SHOULD NOT be the nominee...

[Postman]

http://consortiumnews.com/2007/121907.html

It's amazing how much corruption of democracy has been allowed to take place with no accountability.

The Constitution is just a piece of paper with ink stains.

Joining The Cover-Ups
"Chief counsel Lawrence Barcella told me later that he urged task force chairman Lee Hamilton to extend the investigation several months to examine this new evidence of Republican guilt, but Hamilton ordered Barcella simply to wrap up the probe with a finding that the Reagan-Bush campaign had done nothing wrong."........Lee Hamilton sat on the 9/11 Committee. Do you think we got to the bottom of what happened on 9/11??...Me either.

[flvegan]

1. One more potential reason, anyway.

:popcorn: btw

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. That is a MUST READ

Lots of good information there. Wow.

[jgraz]

3. K&R -- suggest you pull some key quotes into your OP

People are more likely to read this if they have some idea what's in it.

[Cha]

14. My thought, exactly!

I pulled some..maybe you or someone else could pull some other verifying facts up?

[gaiilonfong]

4. PROOF they are cut from the same CRAP!

Very revealing article. Well in a few weeks we will know if the people REALLY want a change in our country.
The Democrats have a unique opportunity to change the world and this country. IF ...IF...they nominate Hillary it means we are in for another very bad time. AND...the Dems are enablers just like the ReTHUGlicans of corruption and policy for power, not for the people!

[HughBeaumont]

5. Cue the apologists, cut/pasters and glad-handers in 5 . . .4 . . . 3 . . . 2 . . .

K & R. Good stuff.

[JDPriestly]

6. Hillary is far, far too mired in the past.

Her presidency would be a nightmare of compromises on the one hand and vengeful acts on the other. We would lurch from the past to the present constantly. We need to move forward.

[AndyA]

7. There is certainly more than enough there to warrant making sure a scenario of

Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton/Clinton can never, ever happen.

Almost three decades of the same two families in control of the White House?

NEVER!
American NEEDS change.
Hillary Clinton won't deliver it.

[nxylas]

8. When will Democrats learn?

It's no use tryin to appeal to Republicans' better natures because Republicans don't have better natures. That's why they're Republicans. All this kissing up in the hope of receiving something in return is just playing George McFly to the GOP's Biff Tannen.

[tom_paine]

30. It goes back a lot further than Clinton.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000651

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

[Bitwit1234]

9. The main reason is it is putting Obama's supporters

butts out of joint. They can't stand the competition. They want the airhead to win...so Oprah can still run him around on a leash. Any body that lets some one push him around like this guy lets his wife and Oprah what kind of president would he be.

[TahitiNut]

10. The ability to create a cartoonishly delusional straw-man substitute for objective discourse ...

... seems essential for mindlessly engaging in cult-like support entirely devoid of issue-based advocacy.

Kudos! :hi:

[Cha]

15. You're too kind with

kudo-shite! :hi: It is a study in obvious delusional characteristics.

[Major Hogwash]

36. How's your health?

Take care of yourself, TahitiNut.

[TahitiNut]

38. Hangin' in there, sir!

Yesterday was NOT a "good day," though. Had a bad reaction to some BP meds and crapped raspberry syrup spew all day. (Believe me, you just DON'T want to look in the commode and see what looks like puddled ground covering after a firefight.) BP dropped like a stone - about 40% - but today's a lot better after stopping it. I've never been a fan of pharmaceuticals.

[Postman]

11. Do you always ignore alarming facts of deterring democracy for fluff?

n/t

[Richard Steele]

12. Yes. Yes she does. nm

[Cha]

16. I'm goin' butt in and

say, "yes, always".

[jgraz]

18. Absolutely not!

Sometimes she ignores it for insults.

[Cha]

13. This is that huge elephant

over looking the clintons at every turn..I told ya I think it's Stockholm Syndrome.

“The first thing she intends to do is to send me and former President Bush and a number of other people around the world to tell them that America is open for business and cooperation again,” said Bill Clinton, who is proud that he has accompanied the senior Bush on many international humanitarian missions.

Clinton’s comment could be viewed as both a slap at George W. Bush and a kiss-up to his father. But the elder Bush responded icily through a spokesman, saying he supports his son’s foreign policy and “never discussed an ‘around-the-world mission’ with either former President Bill Clinton or Sen. Clinton.”

papybushit supports his son's foreign policy..yeah, right. He's gone senile and bill wants him goin' around the world..dream on bill, it's not the '90's anymore, buster.

[creeksneakers2]

28. Way overboard over one dumb statement

Probably Bill wanted to make his trip look more statesman like and offered to include Bush Senior. That dumb idea had nothing to do with Iran/Contra or any of the rest. This Robert Parry must be a real kook fringe attraction to make so much out of nothing.

Bill learned plenty about the GOP and the right wing. He hates them but he's a gentleman and does what is expected of a former president. Hillary is going after Obama now so just think what she'll do to the GOP if she gets in office.

[Cha]

32. Typical hillary emissaries'

response..ignore the facts and call the messenger, "names" and bow down to hillary, who can do no wrong.

[cali]

17. don't want Clinton, but most of this article is useless. It's comprised chiefly

of insinuation and innuendo- particularly the claim, with 0 evidence, that due to Secret Service protection, bushco has something on the Clintons. And I hate to break it to you, but neither Obama or Edwards is going to bring bushco to justice either. Better to oppose her on her policies, her record and her current rhetoric.

[paulk]

19. Robert Parry used to be a decent journalist

I wonder what happened?

The whole "Clintons covering up for Bushes" line that he's been pushing is nothing more than conspiracy theory.

[AntiFascist]

22. Is the CIA drug-running operation out of Mena Airport just a conspiracy theory?

I'd like to know what others think.

[paulk]

23. the drug running operations may well have existed

but the connections to Clinton are questionable. There's a lot of "was an associate of", "was a campaign contributer to", etc. It's all guilt by association and a lot of this stuff was originally cooked up by the right wing in it's attempts to bring down Clinton, IMO.

[AntiFascist]

27. Right, I understand that cocaine usage itself was used as a weapon against Bill Clinton...

but what of the Rose Law Firm's (money laundering) involvement? The profiteering aspect to this operation seems to be the 1000 pound gorilla that neither side wants to touch, yet it is likely what binds the Clinton dynasty to the Bush dynasty. Also, keep in mind, with all the drugs entering the US, laundered funds have to be funneled out somehow.

[creeksneakers2]

29. All the connections to Clinton were Richard Mellon Scaife

productions. The witness they had was that state cop who was paid by Scaife. I saw one of his books once on Newsmax. He claimed Bill stole Chelsea's Christmas presents and gave them to his illegitimate black son.

Two investigations, one run by the savages from the GOP Congress went after Bill on this full speed. Both had to admit they found no credible evidence.

File Clinton Mena with the stories about Waco being a human sacrifice Hillary made for her witch coven, or the ones about Vince Foster.

[AntiFascist]

39. There's also Terry Reed and John Cummings...

who don't seem to play partisan politics in their investigations:

http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/Mena/Cummings25Mar96.html

I talked with Sarah McClendon, the veteran White House correspondent. And she thinks that Clinton is just, basically, innocent. How involved was Clinton?

John Cummings: Up to his ears. Here was a guy, what he was doing was playing ball with the Administration in Washington, and for a lot of reasons. There was a lot of money flowing into the state. You have to really understand the amount of money that was flowing into Arkansas. And the net effect of this was, the money went to finance firms run by Clinton's friends, who could then make very nice campaign contributions to him. I mean, Clinton never got any of that money directly.

Brian Redman: When I talked with Sarah McClendon, she said that there were several "Menas", so-called; that this was not an isolated operation.

John Cummings: There was at least one other that I know of, out in Texas. Seal was involved.

Brian Redman: The Arkansas Development Finance Authority , the way that worked: drug money goes into ADFA and then it gets loaned out to people...

John Cummings: was dropping $9 million a month into Arkansas. And the money ended up going to Dan Lasater. Where it went from there, who knows? ADFA... Nobody knows where ADFA's money came from. We know that they lent out a lot of money to Bill Clinton's friends -- people who didn't need it! ADFA was supposedly set up to help companies that couldn't get regular financing.

Brian Redman: You've looked into the drug corruption. What's your opinion on the "War on Drugs"?

John Cummings: The "War on Drugs" is a joke.

...

I'll put it to you this way: the guy who originally put me on to Barry Seal was a narcotics investigator. And he said to me (referring to Seal), "I thought I was chasing the biggest drug trafficker in the country, only to learn that the biggest drug trafficker in the country was the country." (And I think that really tells it all.) He suddenly realized that he'd spent his life on a fool's errand.

The "War on Drugs" is a tremendous farce. But it's easy to sell this country on anything.


and there's also Roger Morris:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0707/S00058.htm

...

Suzan Mazur: So they became sort of caretakers of Mena? Mena was part of the job?

Roger Morris: I don’t think they would have seen it that way. This is a seamless web of corruption and compromise in Arkansas. It was part of the job after all to tend to these large corporate interests – Wal-Mart and Tyson’s Foods and all of the other big hitters in Arkansas. Hillary was working for a law firm that represented most of those interests in Arkansas and elsewhere throughout the South. I think they simply saw this as part of what one had to do in political life and political office.

Suzan Mazur: But this is something quite serious because it had to do with the poisoning of millions of Americans with drugs smuggled in through Arkansas from Latin America.

Roger Morris: Absolutely. It’s not a casual corruption.

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[Postman]

21. That's what happens when you pre-maturely shut down investigations...

(aka cover-up)

[BenDavid]

20. now obama's folks are reaching for anything.-desperation?YES!

[K Gardner]

25. The Consortium is hardly an Obama Site.. it has a very long and reputable history

of in-depth reporting.

[K Gardner]

24. "A Balance of Terror Between the Bush & Clintons"... I'm not finished reading but

this is a good article.

"But there is a history to the Clinton and Bush families possessing damaging secrets about the other, a kind of balance of terror in which the Bushes usually have the upper hand and the Clintons have chosen mostly to make concessions and seek favors from the more powerful family."

Edited to include info about the author of this article:Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, was written with two of his sons, Sam and Nat, and can be ordered at neckdeepbook.com. His two previous books, Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq and Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth' are also available there.

[Cha]

33. It's an Excellent article

and site..Robert Parry has been investigating the bushes and subsequent "coverups" since the '80s. I gave a couple of people at work tonight this website as a really good source of info on the bushes and clintons.

One guy said.."we're sure not going to get the truth from the mainstream press".

[King Coal]

26. That just may get Bartcop to do 180°.

[Cha]

34. I stopped reading

bartcop a long time ago when he endorsed hillary. I always thought he should know better.

[AzDar]

31. Yea, verily.

:thumbsup:

[havocmom]

37. Kick

and thanks for posting

[YOY]

40. Cue the "Cut and paste" of the vehement supporters of that same one-sided list...

n/t