An Obama staffer wonders when the media will look into Bill Clinton's post-presidency sex life

[journalist3072]

I subscribe to CBS's daily campaign email update called The Horserace. I thought today's was very interesting..it's basically an admission that Obama get's a free pass from the media:

Here's part of the content, of today's The Horserace email update from CBS:

All In The Delivery

Usually when someone uses the phrase, "style over substance," it's a
complaint that once candidate or another is getting by with showmanship
while giving little but lip service to policy issues. But in campaign
2008, it's starting to take on a different meaning – the ability of a
candidate to appear above the fray while engaging in the same rhetoric
that is gets others in the doghouse.

Barack Obama is one of those whose style has eclipsed any hint of
negativity coming out of his campaign. When Hillary Clinton asserts that
Obama's health care plan doesn't cover all Americans, it's often cast as
an attack on her rival. That's not the case when Obama says that the
former First Lady is too chummy with Washington lobbyists to bring about
any real change.

When Clinton's New Hampshire co-chair openly wonders whether Obama ever
sold drugs in addition to his admission of taking them, he's off the
campaign and the result is a week's worth of stories about it. But as
Howard Kurtz point out in the Washington Post today, little attention
was paid when an Obama staffer reportedly asked one media scribe when
the press would start looking into Bill Clinton's post-presidential sex
life.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/12/19/politics/horserace/entry3630925.shtml?CMP=OTC-RSSFeed&source=RSS&attr=Horserace_3630925

[blogslut]

1. First, I'll never forgive you for forcing me to read Kurtz

But I did and he does not mention anything about Obama, a staffer or Bill's sex life. Your post is bogus.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100587.html/

[journalist3072]

2. My post is not bogus....this is a CBS New daily political update...The Horserace

I get it in my email inbox every day....

And here is the link to it on CBS' website:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/12/19/politics/horserace/entry3630925.shtml?CMP=OTC-RSSFeed&source=RSS&attr=Horserace_3630925

[blogslut]

3. Then you quote a source that is bogus

Because Kurtz did not say this in his column. Don't you claim to be a journalist? Ever hear of fact-checking? Just because some email says something, that doesn't make it true.

[journalist3072]

7. Do you even know how to read? Here is the link to Howard Kurtz's column TODAY

Before you go accusing me of citing a bogus source, do your research.

Here's the link to the Howard Kurtz article, which CBS referenced.

And the part about an Obama staffer wondering when the media would look into Bill Clinton's post-presidency sex life, is on Page 2 of the Howard Kurtz article. It's the very first paragraph on page 2 of the article.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121802184_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2007121900011

[blogslut]

11. Then Kurtz is lying

Because I'm looking at Ambinder's column and there's not one word about this supposed Obama staffer.

But you go ahead and call me names, if that makes you feel like it forwards your candidate's cause

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/

[journalist3072]

14. Wrong again..You don't see it because it wasn't in his online column...it was in a

special article he did, for the December 2007 Atlantic.

And here is the link to that online:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama/3?ca=iQXKMn%2FDF3O7uJqC0c790m7Uvm%2Bnaw3W14%2BdBvJpJDs%3D

Here is the paragraph from his article in the December 2007 Atlantic, in which he talks about the Obama staffer asking him when the media would examine Bill Clinton's post-presidency sex life:


His campaign staffers, too, have become frustrated by the focus of the media’s attention, specifically that the press has not covered Clinton in the way they expected it would. During an interview this summer, Obama’s friend Valerie Jarrett said to me, unbidden, “He is a man who is devoted to his wife. There aren’t going to be any skeletons in his closet in terms of his personal life at all. Period.” And at a campaign event in Iowa, one of Obama’s aides plopped down next to me and spoke even more bluntly. He wanted to know when reporters would begin to look into Bill Clinton’s postpresidential sex life.


Again, the above paragraph is found at the following link:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama/3?ca=iQXKMn%2FDF3O7uJqC0c790m7Uvm%2Bnaw3W14%2BdBvJpJDs%3D

Do your homework before you go accusing me of not having my stuff together.

[blogslut]

18. Well, then I apologize

You are correct. Two journalists managed to propagate campaign backstabbing by giving these little whispers a platform. Aren't you proud?

But notice how I made you work for it? Before, you were perfectly willing to accept what was written at face value. Aren't you glad I forced you to be more responsible with your mudslinging?

[journalist3072]

20. Stop with the B.S.posts already....I was simply reporting THE FACTS....The Obama staffer was

the one doing the mudslinging by pontificating on Bill Clinton's sex life.

And I can't help it if you're intellectually lazy and can't/won't read. You made me work for nothing....It was there in front of your face, you just chose not to see it. Reading is fundamental. You really may want to try it sometimes. I see that's something you have in common with the current White House occupant...you can't or don't want to read.

[blogslut]

21. I read it. But unlike you

I never believe what I read without checking the facts. If you were a real journalist, you would do the same. Instead, you fill this board with nothing but invective. Congratulations.

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[blogslut]

23. Yes, you found those facts after I challenged them

As I said, you should thank me. Maybe next time you'll throw out these petty little jibes with the appropriate links. Oh, and you might want to watch that temper of yours. Anger is bad for the heart.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. Cat fight!!

:)

[blogslut]

28. kisses

hiya lady :hi:

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[blogslut]

37. I accept your gratitude

Your attempts to inflame me with slurs make me giggle. Do take care of yourself. Have a wonderful evening. :)

[Djinn]

31. I'm not American

and if I were I wouldn't be voting for Hillary or Obama who are identical in my eyes. I have absolutely NO dog in the fight for US president. For anyone outside the US there is VERY little difference between the two parties.

That disclaimer said, your post did not make the OP work for anything. You erroneously made several accusations that were debunked.

The OP slung no mud, campaign staffers did, yes that is not surprisingly or news worthy, however I believe the point being made was the lack of media pick up on other candidates nasty tricks whilst a HUGE emphasis is put on Clinton's.

I think the only one who was made to work here was you, and it wasn't a successful use of energy

[blogslut]

35. You are entitled to your opinion

I have observed this poster for a good while. I know what I'm doing. And I feel refreshed. :)

[emilyg]

6. Yep. It's there.

[blogslut]

8. Maybe in the CBS email

But whoever wrote that email is lying because Kurtz doesn't mention it in his column

[journalist3072]

9. I just gave you the link to the Howard Kurtz Washington Post article where he mentions it

Take the time to read....It's the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH ON PAGE 2 of the Washington Post article.

Click on the link....Are you even capable of doing that?

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

4. What on earth does Bill Clinton's sex life have to do

with anything?

This race is turning into a facsimile of a bunch of kindergartners throwing sand in eachother's eyes.

It is most disheartening.

[Stephanie]

12. Well actually, if she's going to use her husband to campaign for her ...

And if she's going to run on HIS record, which she is doing, and IF the marriage is a sham, then yeah, I think it's relevant.

[journalist3072]

16. Bullshit.....Bill Clinton's sex life has no relevancy to this campaign.

How dare you question whether or not the marriage is a shame. Who are you? Their marriage is none of your business.

[Stephanie]

47. If their marriage is none of my business then she shd stop trotting out her husband

to prop up her campaign. And I said SHAM, not "shame," though either might apply at this point.

[emilyg]

30. not so.

[Capn Sunshine]

5. I imagine because its unsubstatiated low level bullshit, is why nothing was made of it.

Get back to me with a name , date and time together with an actual quote instead of the "some say" trick.

[journalist3072]

10. Get a clue....Check out this portion of Howard Kurt's WaPo article from today

"There was also a lack of media pickup when the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder reported that an Obama aide had sat down next to him and "wanted to know when reporters would begin to look into Bill Clinton's post-presidential sex life."

Source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121802184_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2007121900011

Reading is really everything. Try it sometimes.

[EFerrari]

13. You were right. I read it and it is low level bullshit. n/t

[journalist3072]

15. Yep..it was definitely low level shit on the part of the Obama staffer who asked that question

Obama made a point the other day, to say that he had sent the word out to his staff, that anyone going looking for dirt on Clinton would be fired; that he wouldn't tolerate that stuff.

Yet, one of his staffer's is on record asking someone from the Atlantic, when the media will investigate Bill Clinton's post-presidency sex life.

[parasim]

19. So, the question is, is he going to fire that staffer?

...once he finds out about this article? Just because he sent the word out, doesn't mean everyone one heeded it. Every campaign has it's screwballs. Isn't that the nature of the game?

[papau]

25. Obama should fire the staffer because the smear he was told to plant didn't get press?

[EFerrari]

24. The difference is we all know Bill Clinton has a zipper problem

while we also know Obama has never been a drug dealer or, GASP, a Muslim.

The post- WH media has likely been kind to Bill Clinton.

[Djinn]

32. and fucking makes one ineligible for office

mmm where have I heard that before

[EFerrari]

33. Bill Clinton is running for office? n/t

[Djinn]

38. even worse then

apparently now being married to someone who fucks makes one ineligible for office.

WHO CARES.

[EFerrari]

40. The problem is, the campaign can't have it both ways.

They insert (sorry!) Bill Clinton into their pitch. They then can't turn around and say his behavior isn't material.

[Djinn]

41. close but no...um cigar

no-one said his behavior isn't material. If he's being used in her campaign then yes as you say it's relevant. The big BUT here is that his CONSENSUAL SEXUAL behavior is irrelevant.

[EFerrari]

42. Nope, not within the norms of this culture it isn't.

And in particular, not within the values HRC is claiming in her campaign, prayer group and all. Again, she can't have it both ways.

[Common Sense Party]

43. So, if it comes out that Giuliani's wife is banging the butler,

(hypothetically speaking), the DU board won't light up like a Festivus tree?

We'll take the high road?

And no Democratic nominee will dare mention it?

[Djinn]

44. of course it will be mentioned

you're in America, what people do with their genitals seems supremely important there. It just shouldn't that's all.

[EFerrari]

45. I agree with that. We're genitally obsessed and it degrades

our public life.

[AtomicKitten]

17. practically rises to the level of calling Obama "uppity"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/davidcorn/2007/12/hillary-on-obama-fear-and-hatr.html

And other Democrats in Washington report encountering the same when speaking with Clinton campaign people. "They really, really hate Obama," one Democratic operative unaffiliated with any campaign, tells me. "They can't stand him. They talk about him as if he's worse than Bush." What do they hate about him? After all, there aren't a lot of deep policy differences between the two, and he hasn't gone for the jugular during the campaign. "It's his presumptuousness," this operative says. "That he thinks he can deny her the nomination. Who is he to try to do that?"

You mean, he's, uh, uppity? "Yes."

A senior House Democratic aide notes, "The Clinton people are going nuts in how much they hate him. But the problem is their narrative has gone beyond the plausible."

[Beausoir]

27. A member of the human race wonders when the fascination with Bill Clinton's penis will end.

Jesus.

[Catherine Vincent]

29. That must be some penis. nt

[Beausoir]

39. It's the mightiest, most powerful penis that ever existed,

Behold! The power of the Clenis!

[NMMNG]

34. It must have a cape on it or something

[Didereaux]

46. Obama better FIRE a staffer! NOW

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

48. Campaign season usually hightlights the tawdry over substance. *Yawn*

Boxers or Jockeys? Haircuts? Cleavage? Drugs? Sex?

Ain't, long, dull, campaigns, enlightening?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

49. An unnamed aide gives an indirect paraphrased comment.

Mind-blowing.